yeah i was pissed off after that. No Phat loots! was a waste of time.

You'll find that it's across the board. Many skills got it's proc coefficient nerfed or removed completely, rendering LoH useless. They've said initially that they do not want LoH to be the way it was back in D2, where if you have enough of it, you'll practically never die. It sort of heading that way now, if you have enough of it with the right skill, it makes the game fairly easy. So they're nerfing that. So to make the game easier now, you have to out level content by leveling your paragon levels.

Enjoying life as a DH with no LoH and a very minimal investment in mf gear :P 4x magic find on white mobs and a reduction in HP on elites should make act 3 pretty cruisy with enough DPS. Let the power levelling begin tomorrow night.

So in terms of play diversity I can't be a tank anymore right?
I have to find god equipment so my base dps goes from 19k to 60k at least then now I can melt act4 elites with dogs as a wooden fence barricade that digs their way back into the ground and wall of zombies (800% of...60k base, if you don't miss)

C'mon man...looking at the patch note I have to change nearly every skill and muck around with the equipments...and still building crosses everywhere

So is there any point in having or investing in LoH gear anymore?

Hang on. How is loh changing?

is this paragon level shit for real?

also, when is the patch coming out?

Paragon shit = real
Server downtime for patch is incoming in less than 2hrs, brace yourself for a 10hr+ downtime :p

It's not changing directly. They're nerfing the proc-coefficient in various skills that allow LoH and other effect to work. Like Caltrops jagged spikes rune will no longer work with LoH at all because the proc has been removed entirely. And across the board with many classes and skills, the amount of proc rate has either been removed or reduced greatly.

Not sure bout your class but if your build was heavily reliant on LoH expect it to change.

Depending on class. As an example Barb who rely on Frenzy to proc their LoH is still ok. But overpower will no longer proc any LoH with crushing advance.

Yes it is and it's coming tonight at 6pm perth time.

Yay! my 2 fiery brimstones sold for 500K each. so i made 50K profit.... and it only took me a week.

better than a loss.

So now I have 1.6M.... any good items to get... or should i save for post patch?

I was thinking a socketed experience helm to level up paragon faster

but I only found 1 and there was no buyout price. and it Was lvl 57.

I like most of the stuff they've done with the patch. A lot of much needed additions and fixes which should have realistically been in since launch. 'Overall' it's a positive step for the game. Paragon is a good idea in theory but feels rushed.

- How does that tie in with an expansion and level caps?
- why bother capping mf/gf at 300 + neph. 300 + neph + gear would be epic.
- the extra stats will be what, max 2-300 extra primary, extra 100 vit? fairly minimal buffs in the grand scheme.

The proc rate nerfing isn't just about loh. If it was they should have just halved loh like they did with a/s to reduce the effectiveness/stacking (or just removed it from weapons as a base stat so it was gem only). The real problem is it removes a huge range of build viability people require procs to make work.

Item wise, mf, gf, stun, freeze, bleed, blind, chill, immobilize, lifesteal, loh are all devalued massively in value and effectiveness. Weapons are now only about crit, crit, sockets for more crit, and high base dps (extra primary stats are a bonus). Armor/etc is just about crit/resists and primary stats.

Skill wise, with the cut to procs go a large number of skills that were specific to particular builds so despite some skill damage buffs, people won't use them anyway cause they weren't necessarily used for their damage rating. Tank DH for example, (shuriken cloud, gas grenades, bola, ss gas cloud, m4d, sentry etc) all useless enough not to be allocated a skill slot. So its back to the typecast key skills and playstyles for each class and the 'as it was at launch' way they were played.

Additionally, killing procs (and subsequent loh) means people take more damage. It also means (minimal loh) that they can't heal as much damage so its back to potions/kiting/avoidance.

Coupled with the damage reduction from elites, increased loot from white mobs etc etc, its sounding 'good' on paper, but we've all played the levels 50 times so not having any effective alternative ways to play classes is a terrible decision by the devs.

Oh, no more goblin farming either :[

Pro tip. there will be extra downtime tonight lol. Make sure to go all out in the ah

good time to pull my pc apart ready for a new mobo :)

May as well have some beers and play darts tonight... wait its pourng with rain :thumbdn:

Also means can't freeze the x out of everything :lol:
Will see tomorrow