PlayStation Vita (PSP2)
 

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PSP2 Will Be Bigger, Out Fall 2011

PS2 compatible and I'm sold

Hmm.

In any case, it's nice to know that someone is interested in pushing the tech boundaries.

P.S. When the fuck is 'Fall 2011'?

Fucking Americans.

Fall is autumn i believe which "falls" on our spring.

I really liked the original PSP but the lack of games that interested me made me let it go.

Looking forward to the PSP2 if it can serve as a netbook gaming device.

If it has two analog sticks SOLD

hmm the PSP was horrible as far as being a gaming platform goes. The console itself was great, it looks really good and the big screen was a welcome addition. As far as hardware goes its good, but i have not bought more than about 3 games for mine. There just isn't anything worth paying for on it imo. Without home brew i would've chucked it out and got a DS

If Sony can actually get some decent game devs to make something for the PSP2 it would be awesome.

From what ive seen of the 3ds Sony will really need to make sure the PSP2 is fairly amazing to compete, now Nintendo has some decent graphics and the usual great line up of games. PS2 game compatibility would be awesome.

Dont like the sound of the gimmicky touch crap.

Give me snake eater or give me death

Look no further than the Nintendo 3DS then?

This is a leaked photo of a Sony Prototype apparently, I hope it's not the PSP2.

http://www.coflash.com/stuff/sonyphone.jpg

Thats obviously a phone but, if the psp2 were to look anything like that..

1. Its similar to the psp go or what ever.
2. Looks unergonomic, I would prefer the start and select buttons to be where that s is

See thats what I didn't want to hear haha, guess I have no choice :(

its not the psp2, dont worry.

psp2 was shown here in tokyo a couple of weeks ago to select developers

its a fancy bit of kit ;)

It had better be, or else they will be absolutely smashed (again) by Nintendo and the 3DS.

Would you guys classify the ipod touch as a gaming console, I really think its up to scatch when comparing these two makers.

God no. Touched based gaming is horrific and will never work for the types of games the PSP/DS have. If they somehow could work, like with a slide out gamepad then yes. Mushing your fingers all over the screen is crap and gets in the way.

iphone is more capable than DS / 3DS, more cpu, ram and vram. only really lacking in pixel shaders.

psp2 makes the 3ds look like, well, exactly what it is, a slightly overpowered DS :)

rofl , that is android on that "PSP2"

i lold :D:D:D:D

Which won't mean a thing, just like with the PSP, if they don't secure some amazing games to use that tech. If they come in weak, the 3DS will smash it.

Well, the 3DS will destroy the PSP2 in sales regardless because of the screen, but having some good games on the PSP2 will certainly help it. I burned through the good PSP games in a month and then sold it due to the lack of anything good coming out.

sure, but PSP did extremely well in its own right, 40 million units...not bad for a first effort.

essentially all 3 platforms can stand up on thier own. psp for more adult games, ds for more casual and younger audience games, and iphone for ultra small games (that will change eventually, but as everyone has pointed out, no physical controls is limiting it)

I second this, let me play my ps2 games on the psp2 and I'll buy one early until the must-haves come out.

Oh man, stop teasing us and leak something more appetizing, or STFU :p

Ps2 compatibilty and analogue sticks sell it for me

It was horrible for Australia. In Japan, the PSP and NDS are far and away the leading gaming platforms, blowing away home consoles as far as game sales go. I've got an excellent PSP library in Japanese imports currently playing Project Diva 2 and impatiently awaiting the Dec. 23 release of the AKB48 dating sim game.

BTW, Nintendo and Sony don't really compete in the handheld market. Their machines are targeted differently. Sony wants males 14-40 and Nintendo wants everyone else.

Sony Computer Entertainment president Kaz Hirai has added further fuel to speculation that the PSP2 will have touch screen controls.

PSP2/NGP
 

Details are being released as we go atm. Current name is NGP?

http://i54.tinypic.com/2eal72h.jpg

Features;
5" Rear Touch pad
Dual analog
5" OLED Touch Screen
Ps3 level graphics(?)
Front and Rear Camera
3G, Wifi GPS
Six Axis

Confirmed games;
Uncharted
Killzone
Golf Next /Hot shots
Little Big Planet
Reality Fighters
Gravity Daze
Wipeout
Resistance
Lost Planet 2 (port)
Monster hunter portable 3rd (downloadable version, straight port apparently)
Yakuza okay maybe not? title not confirmed
Metal Gear Solid 4
Dungeon Defenders
Call of Duty

Uncharted Gameplay

cant really see it, but you get the gist. somewhat clearer image here

Supposedly same size as the psp1, with bigger screens. Currently looks fantastic but games are lacking as is imo. will update as clearer details come out.

Finally. Here's to hoping the competition brings down the 3DS price a bit. Looks pretty cool. All the leaks seem pretty spot on. Now to wonder what the go is with the SE Xperia PS phone?

oh geez mgs4. no new games from konami at the current time it seems though.

okay, this is nuts. something like a cloud computing thing. You can play your ps3 games at home, but can also take them out and play them on the NGP while you're out.

love my PSP Go, thinking of selling my 3002 and Go to get one of these though, not sure.

That's gonna be announced in barcelona, in feb i think.

Pocket PS3? *want*

If the 3DS is $250US I can imagine we'll have to take out loans to buy this.

Awe - freaking - some.

Looks like the got everything right, but critically PSP 1 compatibility and dual thumbsticks. Do want!

NGP = Next Generation Portable

I'm actually quite upset as I'm really into my PSP now and I just bought a DS, I have more shit then I have time to play, the fact that this has MGS4 alone makes it a day 1 purchase though.

No PS2 compatibility mentioned yet I assume?

Doesn't it cease being a Next Generation Portable once it comes out? When it's released it's technically Current Gen and CGP just doesn't have the same ring to it nor marketing pizzazz

It's just a codename for now.

I'm not convinced Sony are making the right decision. I fear the PSP2/3DS situation will pan out exactly like the PSP/DS did.

Looking good, as long as I can play me some PSP1, PS1 and hopefully PS2 games it will be ultra sweet.

PSP2 I would prefer for the name.

Hopefully we get a lot of games released for this in AUS, I want to walk into a store and actually be able to browse the PSP/PSP2 section.

50 million units each or more?

thats not a bad outcome at all :)

NGP is only a codename for pre-release isn't it?

Pretty much. The PSP didn't sell as well because it was too expensive for anyone to care about it being more powerful and having more features. Solve this by doing the exact same thing? Maybe things will be a bit more even this time around with the 3DS being expensive but Nintendo usually have more wiggle room in their prices, not selling for a loss and can bump them down if they're not flying off the shelves.

Edit: Shouldn't say it failed since it did very well, just not as well as the competition.

You know what I mean. They sold a lot of hardware for a first shot at the market, but the DS is a phenomenon because Nintendo get what the handheld market wants.

edit: We'll see what happens. If it's just console game experiences ported over again like the PSP was, I'll pass. I got burned last time, and I won't get burned this time.

I can't see it having native PS2 support, but if it can run PS3 ports then it should also be able to run the PS2 remakes that are being made for PS3 (like God of War 1/2 etc). There is a good rumour that MGS will get an HD re-release for PS3 so this would really help the NGP sales wise.

That concept also works will with the downloadable game model - I think NGP has a lot of the right ingredients, far more than PSP had and I still bought one of those :).

agreed, psp was expensive even though it had better hardware, mums and dads wont look twice at it if its too expensive.

although i have to say dual analog is awesome and there looks like some rock solid games on the way - mgs, lbp and uncharted

eh, i think psp actually did fairly well. the main reason psp lost out in sales was because nintendo has trusted franchises and a buttload of games like brain training. A ridiculous amount of people know mario and zelda- the ds isn't exactly lacking in either. Look at the 3ds, most people i've talked to about it are getting it because of the OoT remake. all nintendo need to do is slap on of their characters on a game and it'll sell.

as a handheld the psp is very solid and has a rather decent list of games (whether they're good or not is up to you), even if it took a while to build up its titles.

PSP2 concept video

Clear MGS4 video

Multiple shots of actual device

Battery life 4.5 - 5hrs. In other words 2.5 on a decent brightness. Can buy games off PSN of course.

Go to Eurogamer if you want updates, they seem to be doing the best so far.

is there any date for these yet?

wouldn't mine getting one after selling my psp go.

what would one guess the price to be?

Not sure yet, this might help:

Oh my god om mh god oh my goddddd.

In other words, I want this.

WANT NOW

I bought my PSP on launch day, looks like this beast is gonna be the same!

wow this thing looks freaken awesome, hope the pricing is okay, i think i got my psp for $400 back in the days, wish this thing is cheaper than that

looking mighty impressive. hopefully they dont incoporate the use of touchscreen/gyrosensor all that much in games. what we saw in uncharted could get annoying quick imo.

Other info on it:

http://au.psp.ign.com/articles/114/1146358p1.html

For the trophy hunters:

Portable trophies FTW!!

Definitly want!... Shame about the battery life, but should be quite good for commuters.

I'm impressed. By having the touchscreen on the back of the unit, it's eliminated the need to have your fat fingers over the screen you're looking at!

Of course there's the front touchscreen too :p but dual-analog is sweet.

Yeah id like to see what sony's idea of "Affordable" is, no way this will be under $500aud.

Nice screen resolution. So by new game media, in that video, does that mean games will be sold on memory cards? that seems to be what its suggesting from the pictures, i cant understand japanese though.

The graphics didn't quite look up to PS3, but it could have been the video quality, they're pretty close though. All i want in any console graphics wise is some AA and/or proper texture filtering/higher quality textures.

Heres to hoping they actually make some good games for it.

Some American stores are pre-ordering now for $999 i hope that is just a temp price till it us announced... :/

gamestop's own pricing dickery :thumbup:

cant see this being any higher than 400 US, 250-300 would be ideal.

If you could make & receive calls and have an app store, i'd get one and use it as my company phone

Gamestop in the US are a pack of Sony hating dicks, I've experienced it first hand several times. The conspiracy theorist in me wouldn't be surprised if some MS shill working in Gamestop HQ did this just to take the zing out the NGP announcement.

I can see myself buying this regardless of price, it has so much I want it's hard not to justify it. If it comes in under $400 I'll be duly impressed but considering the price of the PSPGo I'm not holding my breath.

I paid $1K for my iPhone 4 and I love it to pieces, and $870 for my iPad which I also love... when you look at the NGP it's certainly not far off what they offer and in some ways exceeds them. With that kind of perspective it makes $500 seem pretty reasonable.

should i put my PSP Go and PSP 3002 up for sale now?

NGP isn't due until Christmas, if you won't use them for the next 12 months then sure sell them, but a year is a long time.

Or, if you're not a nutjob, you might think they're doing it to get some nice interest free loans from Joe Public until the proper price is announced.

Nah, it's definitely the former. :tongue:

that sounds like tinfoil hat hoopernanny :lol:

Stuff I found VERY interesting:

Sony were huge MIPS people in the PS1, PS2 and PSP days. They've dumped that for ARM (Cortex 9) in this generation, which is VERY interesting (yet another step towards my prediction of an ARM dominate world by the end of the decade).

ARM also means getting developers on side. ARM is the dominant player in the mobile phone game (including iPhone/iPad), and also runs the entire Nintendo DS family. That will mean more devs are going to be familiar with it's nuances.

The ARM chip itself is Quad core. Interesting choice for a portable unit, and a gaming device. SMP is notoriously difficult on gaming systems, and fewer cores means less power draw. I'm guessing they can turn off cores as they please. All the same, there's a lot of power there for multi-tasking.

It uses a PowerVR gen 5 card. PowerVR are great low power GPUs (Gen2 was in the venerable Dreamcast). This is another design change for Sony, who traditionally do their 3D on complex main CPUs, and use something more akin to a basic framebuffer than a real GPU. That previous design was the thought process behind their entire list of hardware to date (up to and including the PS3, with it's very powerful Cell, but somewhat basic GPU compared to other console designs).

The original PSP for all intents and purposes was a PS2 in a box (including the odd video design I mentioned above). Some obvious changes were made to reduce heat and increase battery life, but this new PSP2 is a total design overhaul. It most certainly isn't just a CPU swap and MHz boost. This thing is redesigned from the ground up. Although with that said it's starting to look a lot more like modern CPU design (multi core generic CPU, dedicated GPU, fast bus to connect them) than traditional embedded systems (fast/complex main CPU, simple frame buffer and audio DAC that just push stuff out the door after the CPU did all the work).

So in short, other than the name, this thing shares almost nothing in common with it's previous generation model.

Although what that means is backwards compatibility will be limited. To date they are mentioning downloadable PSP titles will be offered (makes sense, as these can be rebuilt/recompiled and fixed up for the new architecture). I would be amazed if we ever see backward compatibility with UMD stuff. Likewise I can't see any PS2 stuff working with this without major rework (although that could be worth the effort, depending on the demand for certain titles).

All up, very interesting. I'm guessing this will be the usual Sony deal (horrendously expensive on launch, coming down over the years). People predicting US$250 I think might be in for a bit of a shock. :)

Now all that's left is for Sony to fix their relationship with indie developers, considering how much stuff is appearing on iPhone/iPad and Xbox360/XBLA compared to PSN.

Depends whether you're going for equal performance or not.

Obviously four 1GHz ARM Cortex-A9 cores draw more power than one 1GHz ARM Cortex-A9 core. But I'll bet that the quad-core draws much less power than a single core with equivalent performance.

Backward compatibility with UMD stuff would be a bit pointless anyway, since it doesn't appear to have a UMD drive. You'd have to buy an external one, which would probably be expensive and a pain to carry around. If Sony were thinking about an external UMD drive, I think they'd have already done it for the PSP Go.

What about emulation? It should certainly be able to emulate PS1 stuff easily. PS2 emulation seems to need a low-end Core 2 Duo to run reasonably fast, but it might be possible to get it to run on the PSP2 with sufficient optimisation. There was a comment earlier that even re-compiling PS3 games with no optimisation worked fairly well; if that's true then PS2 games could be a definite possibility.

Well, technically not even the name is in common. :lol: After all, it is currently called : Next Generation Portable.

Comment from Kotaku


http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/01/epi...tty-huge-deal/

Would be pretty cool to be playing across platforms, online and mobile

I have been following the news for the NGP over at Kotaku and it looks good (although im interested on how well the touch pad on the back idea works)

I the only thing that makes me worry is with all that tech, its not going to be cheap

Don't make the mistake of comparing x86 to ARM. The two are quite different. Where ARM excels at certain things, it falls behind in others, so it's difficult to make apples-to-apples comparisons.

With that said, a ~600MHz OpenPandora running ARM Cortex8 chips can do Playstation1 emulation at full speed. The PSP2/NGP/whatever running ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore (no clockspeed announced by Sony, but by spec they run from 800MHz to 2GHz, real-time scalable) should be able to handle it fine.

That depends on the PS3 game. Anything designed to use the full grunt of the Cell core won't even come close. Cell blitzes any modern CPU for raw GLFOPS.

With that said, it's clear a lot of devs have taken the lazy approach with the PS3 thus far, and used the Cell as nothing more than a standard PPC core (ignoring the SPEs hanging off the back). In that case, yeah porting PS3 stuff to this device would be doable. But again, only if it was coded sloppily in the first place. (And much like early Sega Saturn and SNES games, so far most of the PS3 games bar first and second party stuff have been coded very poorly).

Sony consoles are ALWAYS insanely priced on release. This will be no different.

And like all the others, if you wait 2 years you'll get the slim model with all the heat issues and bugs solved. :)

Right, fair enough. I was treating the ARM as basically an Atom that's a bit slower clock-for-clock.

Okay. From what you were saying before, it sounds like the NGP will be able to shift more of the work to the GPU. Presumably that'll help to compensate for the slow CPU.

Would it be easier to port from the Xbox 360? Presumably games there have been designed for three equally powerful cores. That'd mean you can utilise three of the NGP's four cores easily, as long as each core is actually powerful enough to do what you want.
What bugs did the PSP have on release?

Again, it would depend entirely on the game. At worst, resolution could be scaled down it the desired performance wasn't achieved.

But yeah, the XBox360 design is much more like a typical PC than the PS3. The PS3's design is much more old school (which I don't think is bad at all. It just means a lot of modern devs used to the "PC way" of doing things might find it weird/difficult at first).

This NGP thingo is somewhere in the middle. ARM processors are grunty enough to do a lot of things on, but the PowerVR GPU will come in handy for the bling.

Actually, I take that back. Slim models tend to introduce "bugs".

PS2 -> PS2 slim introduced a reduction in laser voltage (12V -> 7V), which ended up blowing lasers left right and centre. And they removed the expansion bay for the hard drive addon, which wasn't really a bug, but it pissed me off. :)

This is a really nice looking device and it looks like it'll be capable of delivering some pretty awesome mobile gaming. As others have said though, it won't be cheap despite Sony claiming otherwise (if I were to guess, ~$600).
The last and the only dedicated mobile gaming device I had was a Gameboy back in 1994 or so, it was pretty cool. But I'm sitting here watching the Youtube videos/reading stuff, kinda trying to justify why I need a PSP2. I don't know if there's anytime I could use one (maybe when I'm driving to work?? jk).

When the PS3 was first officially announced, Sony CEO Ken Kutaragi said it would be cheap.

The official price was revealed, and everyone went nuts. Kutaragi heavily criticised the detractors, saying it was "probably too cheap" for all the stuff it came with.

Much like the media tycoons who professed "nobody can live on less than $85,000 per year", it's clear these rich men are out of touch with the real world.

Still, I'll do my usual trick - wait 1.5 years and buy it on the cheap.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/s...9-wifi-only-v/

So it won't be as expensive as a Launch PS3, and will have a wifi only version allowing for drop in price. I don't care for 3G, it's a game console... Pending price of the wifi version, I am very interested.

Backward compatamable:

Also, they stated it wouldn't be over $599 somewhere, whether they were saying that was it or it would be lower, I don't know.

Well thats in american $, if the 3ds is $250 over there, and its $350 here from what i can see, ill be surprised if the NGP is less than $500 here.... maybe $550 for the 3g one and $450 for the wifi only... If it was any cheaper it'd make the 3ds look pretty overpriced imo.

3ds IS overpriced, lackluster upgrade to ds, already which makes a profit

I haven't researched the 3DS much at all, but apart from the 3D element and the obligatory CPU and Graphics updates what is really 'new' about it?

Accelerometer and gyroscope added too.

And it'll still outsell every other handheld 3:1 (I'll be buying one long before the PSP2/NGP :D ).

well, since it comes out in less than a month here, I would expect that would be the order of purchase :p

It does? Fuck. I only bought a DS last week

A toy for the kids then

yeah 26th feb, commercials already on tv here

It doesn't come out here until March sometime.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6...7634d5yixl.jpg


Anyway, day one purchase.

Love it.

I wish they would just announce everything closer to the release date, I hate the waiting

3DS will be insta-purchase for us, due to Zelda-fanatic wife. :)

Video, NGP in action

I hope you don't have to keep touching the screen like that, seems it's a bit of a disconnect when you're using buttons.

i remember hearing it supported normal controls, and touch if you wanted. which is a smart thing to do.

Nice. Day 1.

I imagine many of those would be optional, like the flick to jump with Drake. I noticed at least twice he used the X button to jump (once getting onto the vine and once at the end of the bridge).

The dinosaur in the last video was kinda cool, not really sure what the premise was but it was impressive with the lighting being correct etc.

Penny Arcade back in Feb....

Kinda LOL now it IS $249?

The prices as quoted during the brief are as follows. I've put current AUD prices against it in BLUE.

WIFI only
$249 ($232)
€249 ($341)
¥24,980 ($290)

WIFI and 3G
$299 ($279)
€249 ($409)
¥29,980 ($349)

Still day one purchase!


Specifications for PlayStation®Vita

CPU:
ARM® Cortex™-A9 core (4 core)
GPU:
SGX543MP4+
External Dimensions:
Approx. 182.0 x 18.6 x 83.5mm (width x height x depth) (tentative, excludes largest projection)
Screens:
Front touchscreen: 5 inches (16:9), 960 x 544, approx. 16 million colours, OLED multi touch screen, capacitive type.
Rear touch pad:
Multi touch pad, capacitive type.
Cameras:
- Front camera.
- Rear camera.
- Frame rate: 120fps@320x240(QVGA), 60fps@640x480(VGA).
- Resolution: Up to 640x480(VGA).
Sound:
- Built-in stereo speakers.
- Built-in microphone.
Sensors:
- Six-axis motion sensing system (three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer).
- Three-axis electronic compass.
Location:
- Built-in GPS (3G / Wi-Fi model only).
- Wi-Fi location service support.
Keys / Switches:
- PS button.
- Power button.
- Directional buttons (Up/Down/Right/Left).
- Action buttons (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square).
- Shoulder buttons (Right/Left).
- Right stick, Left stick.
- START button, SELECT button, Volume buttons (+/-).
Wireless communications:
- Mobile network connectivity (3G / Wi-Fi model only).
- IEEE 802.11b/g/n (n = 1x1)(Wi-Fi) (Infrastructure mode/Ad-hoc mode).
- Bluetooth® 2.1+EDR (A2DP/AVRCP/HSP).
Slots / Ports:
- PlayStation Vita card slot.
- Memory card slot.
- SIM card slot (3G / Wi-Fi model only).
- Multi-use port (for USB data communication, DC IN, Audio [Stereo Out / Mono In], Serial data communication.
- Headset jack (Stereo mini jack) (for Audio [Stereo Out / Mono In]).
- Accessory port.
Power:
- Built-in Lithium-ion Battery.
- AC adaptor.
Supported AV content:
Music
- MP3 MPEG - 1/2 Audio Layer 3, MP4 (MPEG-4 AAC), WAVE (Linear PCM).
Videos
- MPEG-4 Simple Profile (AAC). H.264/MPEG-4 AVC Hi/Main/Baseline Profile (AAC).
Photos
- JPEG (Exif 2.2.1), TIFF, BMP, GIF, PNG.

Got to play with one of these the other day (without power though, straight out of the box).

Significantly larger in the hand then the PSP, wasn't 100% sold on the feel of the analogs but will have to see in games.

Very light though and the screen is magnificent.

For that price its imho a fucking bargain, I'll be all over it.

Any word on battery life? I'm considering it, it looks very slick (Dual sticks, finally!)... plus a new Uncharted game!

So Vita games are now on cartridges/glorified SD cards?.. sweet, no more "shk shk shk shk" of a disc spinning that was very annoying on the PSP.

From what I have read there willl be a "Vita" card system, but no word on how it works yet

Man I want one of these now, and being that much I want one even more.

Any word on then there coming out yet? I'm guessing towards the end of the year more?

Sony say the PS Vita will cost US299 for the wifi version but just checking the EBgames website they have the price at AUD349:thumbdn: wth our currency is on par with the USD and they want 50 more bucks wth

can someone please tell me why the PS Vita is more over here??

it cant come from shipping costs as Japan are just above us in those terms and the boat doesnt have so far to travel, is it due to our low population??

http://www.ebgames.com.au/vita-15302...--WiFi-PS-Vita

Because they think since we are Pal, then we are = Europe, so we pay same price Europe pays.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/ga...#ixzz1Oe14v6P5

australians like being shafted, ask Sol Trojuno ;)

still, we're doing better than those after a nice imported car
911 Carrera $79,000 US vs $239,374 AU
that's right 3 times the price...

left hand drive to blame?
$67,900 GPB = @$100,000 AU
twice the price?

work that one out....

heard just know that the PSP Vita will not be region locked, so how can they still rip us off?

There's always a way...

Easy.

If it works like PSP then you'll still need to buy Aussie games and here is why:

The games you buy won't be region locked, but the DLC will be. If you buy an American region game, you will need to log into the American PSN store in order to buy any DLC for it. That DLC will be locked to your American PSNID, which means if you want to use it online with your Australian PSNID you're SOL. With the Vita being so 'connected' this will be a big deal, so most people will opt to just buy the Australian version of the game, so they can get the DLC from the Australian store and use their Australian PSNID with it. The way the DLC will only work with the account that is currently logged in is a subtle difference between how the PSP and PS3 work. It remains to be seen which model the Vita will use.

On a positive note however, game bought from the UK will work with DLC from the Australian PS Store, so the best (cheapest) option would almost certainly be to buy the Vita from the USA, but all your games from the UK.

I want to know if the arrangement for the 3G model with AT&T means they will only be sold on a two year contract (like iPhones). If so, that is going to severely hamper importing one from the US.

I will definately be buying all my Vita games and content from the US store.

Wish i had someone to tell me to do the same when i bought my PS3 and PSP years ago.

The amount of content and the price is so much better on the US site (PS3 and PSP that is), So i assume Vita will be no different.

How will the 3g system work? Do we have any word on pricing for data plans?

MONSTER HUNTER ONLINE ANYWHERE

GIVE IT TO ME NOW NOW NOW

amazon will ship the wifi only version to australia. currently calculates to $265 including postage.

Hmm, that's not good. Might mean the Vita 3G is only sold with an associated AT&T plan in the US. Ah well, here comes the AUD shaft!

Sad to have your bubble burst but the online gaming aspect will not be supported by 3G - just not enough bandwidth. The 3G is purely for social connection, internet and trophies etc. It was stated in one of the interviews

3G is a crock of shit anyway.... wifi ftw, hopefully it willl support the latest hardawre

did i mention i have been brinking agains.?

i am sure there's a date for it somewhere in this thread.

EDIT: looks like an xmas release date :( if it was coming out in August/september i would pick it up if i could.

Oh man :(

Thanks for saving me 50 bucks though. So what the hell is the point of the 3g version... that can't honestly be it?

id say its more so you can load your savegames as its has cloud saves. im getting the wifi only and using my android mobiles wifi tether while in areas without wifi access.

Even then, surely games can also be saved on the device? I'd prefer to spend a few dollars on a memory card (or use a few MB of onboard memory) instead of spending $50 + ongoing subscription cost for 3G support.

There's a ton of potential for mp games over 3g, perhaps not a twitch FPS but slower paced games would work just fine.

As an absolutely out of nowhere example, think a MP tower defense game where one player crafts a base defense layout for their base and puts it up for other players to try and beat.

Because you'll pay it. That's the basis for all business done in Australia.

This.. Also, how are people only now learning about price gouging?... it's been happening for years, and very high interest on the internet for the last couple at least.

It's unfortunately caused by taxes and tariffs imposed by the government and distributers that cause retailers to have to pass on the cost to us. Until there is a reform in terms of distribution, prices will continue to be inflated like this.

Honestly though, considering a US import would be looking at probably $20-30 freight, as well as in certain circumstances no local warranty, that's why it's more expensive.

LOL i literally burst out laughing... damn i hated my old PSP because of this very reason ...considering the Vita ..but i just bought my PSPgo last year and rarely played with *facepalm*

getting lots of adds for this on youtube considering it isn't coming out for a while yet.

Golden....you've bought the manfacturer's BS completely...you are proof that advertising works. Sadly it isn't true...the myth of our prices being higher because of taxes or tarriffs has been long exploded. They're higher here because we'll pay more....there is NO other reason like an evil government taking their share....this is entirely the fault of the companies, who on a global level, see Australia as an uninformed country to be fleeced.

Already hacked? I effing hope not.

Isn't this console priced at ~$400au? Waaay too much for a handheld.

Now combine a phone with the Vita instead of the rubbish "fake PSP" Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY and I'll rush out and get one. :p

PSP was originally 350 at launch. The wi-fi ver is going to be 350 and the 3g ver 450.


If piracy opens up on the vita early i get the feeling the handheld will only be popular in japan again.

You can run DS flash carts on the 3DS, so this 'hacking' is similar to that. It only works on the PSP emulator, and unless they can find some way to access the Vita OS from there, it'll just be contained within there.

its been semi jail broken, according this article.

/facepalm someone already posted this.


on the other hand, i just pre ordered a ps vita from eb games. just a little warning, JB HI FI DOES NOT OFFER 3G + WIFI PS VITA MODELS IN STORE, ONLY ONLINE.

Thanks Slatye, that was really hard to do. Cheers,

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh....php?t=1003232

PS Vita Tour Vid by IGN

key points in the Vid:

• memory card comparison (PSP vs PSV)
• PSV cartridge comparison (PSV vs 3DS)
• One Region PSN account on a memory stick [cant have a us, aus, jap on one ms] (?)
• 3G service locked to PSV origin [eg, cant use aus's 3g service in us's psv], exceptional to Japan PSV modals(?)
• earn trophies after completing tutorial.

engadget review on PSV , comes with a vid walk through on the hardware and ui. also a written review, with PSV camera shots, in game screen shots, ui.

The Mysterious PlayStation Vita Dolphin Test Screen Vid

From the other thread that was locked: I did have a half hour session with a PSV and a number of games whilst I was in Japan - anyone with any relevant questions, I'll try to answer them!

Vita Developers Can Turn Off Features in order to push Performance

another PSV review

PS Vita menu is touch-only

US PlayStation Vita Launch Lineup and Details

wow, thats alot of games compared to the JAPAN release, given its only a 2 months difference, Silent Hill is a must buy :D
i hope AUS gets the same release as the the US.

AUS PlayStation Vita AR Cards Bundled Free At Launch

also, tell me if you guys are getting annoyed with me posting reviews or what ever i find about the vita.

It's very helpful, keep it coming :)

PlayStation Vita Memory Cards Officially Priced. Cheaper Than Earlier Reported

i hope we get a price slash on them as well.

PlayStation Vita Hardware Review

Sony comment on the Vita’s Awkward Rear controls
Trailer-on-Social-of-PlayStation-Vita

Just wait for those knockoffs to come around. I can imagine microsd adapters too (unless these are smaller than microsd's? :shock:)

Don't get the issue about the rear controls. It kind of reminds me of people who have been playing the same console for a few years but still need to look at the controller when the screen prompts them to press a certain button.

it depends on the knock off ones, the Memory Stick Pro Duo knock (psp) offs were significantly slower than the original ones. :( no idea about the speed copy/write for the micro sd.

btw guys, if you pre order the psv, you'll received a free pair of sony earphones and other goodies.

https://www.jbhifionline.com.au/imag...s-vita-585.jpg

PS Vita has a Few Problems

there would probably be a third party accessory for the usb charging.

Well, it's 30k JPY and 24990jpy for the 3g and wifi in japan. We just get ripped off. :thumbed:

I'm getting one regardless.

anyone ordered a japanese vita yet a status update says they got stock and are getting to shipping them out.

sucks to be europe though; damn sony and lik-sang!

RESIDENT EVIL: REVELATIONS & UNCHARTED: GOLDEN ABYSS [GRAPHICS COMPARISON]

How Good is the PS Vita's Battery Life?

such a rubbish comparison.

the Vita has 3x the resolution and OLED, both of which your not seeing in that video.

not to mention all the extra graphics extentions that the 3ds hardware cant do.

hah, well wife got me a Vita for xmas...no games yet, i'll just buy off the store along with a large card

oh apparently the sony memory cards are quite fast, hence the cost as well. like Class10 SD cards. people keep comparing them to the cheapest sd cards they can find, which are class2 or 4 and then complain about the price.

Nice!
Personal thoughts about it?

Sooo jealous. I only got a jacket from Uniqlo.

Unboxing the PS Vita Pre-Order Box

in europe, they get the pre order bonus before the psv is released.

also a $30 discount.

very, very slick unit. first time ive actually touched one. ive played with the dev kits, but they werent in this formfactor.

screen is great OLED and the res are fantastic , but the best thing are the analogue sticks..the rubber is quite sticky so they feel solid

the D-Pad is more clicky too, I had SFA3 on psp, but was hard as hell to play with the old d-pad...I might try StreetfighterXtekken with this though.

apart from that, the built in demo tour is cool, the touch pad on the back is pretty intuitive. (again, something not on the original dev kits)

overall pretty cool. I dont have any games to try today but i'll pick up uncharted next week and give it a whirl.

gripes? none yet, I updated the system as soon as it was on...now on 1.5FW so I havent experienced any issues with touch etc

Soooo jealous :upset:

what is the the web browser and the text input like?

seems fine, just like any android phone really. ocau works fine on it anyway, text input was easy enough, but I doubt i'll be doing much browsing on it anyway..even 5" is still too small for decent browsing imo.

That website has done on 360 on their claim that it doesn't charge via USB. It does. Some people didn't set up their vita properly.

Sucks that it uses a proprietary cable though. Whats with that? The original psp didn't.

^ i wonder if they removed any features :lol:

PS Vita - Hong Kong 3G version is region free


entire article

best to import from china!

Wonder if it's dual band 3G or more though?

IIRC most of the phones coming out of china are odd ball 800/2100 and 850/2100 3G bands meaning that you either get full telstra coverage or old model iphone coverage on other providers in aus.

HBL running on the PS Vita, Sonic says Hi

the coder stumbled across this possibility.


The Vita Gets Two More Apps

PS3 Games worth playing on PS VITA

remote play is awesome, even works great with the Torne tv recorder...might get my wife a Vita now, since whatever you can play, stream, record with ps3...you can do via remote play

I didn't want to pick one of these up on release since I don't care for any of the launch titles, but it looks like I'll have to in case new firmware patches out some of the cool stuff this is possibly capable of.

wouldnt be surprised if it did :tongue:

PlayStation Vita to Have an Online Pass on Certain Games

PS Vita Forced firmware updates and Spying!

Megadrive Emulator Running On PS Vita Video

Hidden Commands Found In PSVita That Show Information Systems

PlayStation Vita Has New PSN Feature that PS3 Doesn’t Have

How Good is the PS Vita's Camera?

On one hand I'm sort of interested in the psp2.

On the other hand, i'd much prefer to play uncharted etc on a big screen with a proper controller on a couch - it'd be crap on the train or wherever else on a tiny screen. Also why bother with such a system when iphone games entertain me just as well (if not moreso) and are more suited to travelling and such at a mere fraction of hte cost of psp2 games - plus I already have the ability to do so on a device that I'll carry around with me everywhere anyway.

Perhaps I just don't get it... though I have a DS which I played a bit - mostly at home - until I got an iphone.

iPhone gaming usually involves your fingers being over the game with controls that aren't always responsive, plus the majority of games are casual titles or remakes of classic games with bad controls (try playing something like Broken Sword 2 and touching one object where three are located, what a nightmare). Even compare the controls and responsiveness of GTA on the iPhone to the same type of games on the PSP1.

It's going to have MGS2, 3 and Peacewalker. Where can I get an experience like that on my iPhone? Or a Final Fantasy that isn't suited to children.

If someone brought out the iPhone as a dedicated handheld app/gaming device, do you think it'd do as well as it currently is? I want a device made specifically for gaming. For the iPhone, games only exist purely for the sake of convenience.

actually im playing uncharted now on vita, on the train in the morning and evenings...its great...the visuals are outstanding for a handheld, not quite that of ps3, but its close. texture res is fantastic on uncharted.

btw, the only games to look at are uncharted and mvc...everything else thus far looks like shit comparitivly. waiting for wipeout on the 17th

phones are a different story though, I still play my phone games regularly, but game wise they arent in the same ballpark. differnt styles due to input, budgets, scope etc

They are quite different - and i'm sure the gaming experience alone is MUCH better on the psp... I agree with your fingers taking up a portion of the screen while playing (though the psp does have a touch screen too...as does the ds).

BUT - casual games, like those found on the iphone, just suit playing on a train. You can jump in and out quickly, they're a nice, basic distraction. Playing a game like uncharted on the train would be difficult with all the noise distractions, small screen, etc...

Games like that require a bit of immersion - and it's best played with a big screen, in a comfy room when you're not on the go.

As an aside - I find once I got used to adventure games on ios devices it's actually quite awesome... Loving broken sword 2 on the ipad, and played through broken sword 1 on the DS.

An iPad is a different story IMO, that's how I noticed the difference so much with Broken Sword. I played BS1 from beginning to end on an iPad1 then tried BS2 on my iPhone4... clustered objects are an absolute bitch to select, it's probably the pixel density screwing it up.

I've been playing on handhelds since I was 3 so I can immerse myself pretty easily, I've done all PSX Final Fantasies on a train as well as most good PSP games, the setting doesn't really bother me, it's more the time I can put into a play session. If the train trip was to be an hour or less I think I could see where you're coming from. 4hrs a day on the other hand..

Really tempted to buy one... just hoping some decent titles come out so I don't get bored like the 3000 :p

im still playing uncharted....Wipeout comes out in a week which I wanna grab too.

if Disgeaa was in english already i'd be all over that.

let the cat and mouse game begin.

It'll be great if they can fix the input lag

tempted to see how much they go for in HK and if it's a good price then i'll grab one.

Battlefield 3 on PS Vita using Remote Play

PS Vita worths less than $160

your are forgetting that R&D costs are not cheap. they have to recover that somehow. once the prices are recoupped somewhat. eventually prices for the PSP vita will drop.

What the retail on the basic Vita going to be in Au? I thought we were to expect a ~$250 price tag, but from what I've heard it'll be closer $450.

$350 for wifi
$450 for wifi/3g :(

releases next month 23rd. cant wait to get my hands on it.

Eb games Ps Vita prices & accessories.

$418 is the online price, buying from a local eb game store is $450

not to mention the man hours that went into writing the software...if they actually didn't rip it off some other device!

Got mine preoredered on amazon for $275 delivered for wifi. Already have my 32GB card, case, even got that cradle BS. Hype!

I'm still waiting for DSE, Kmart, Big W and Target to put out their release day bundles... Hoping to pickup a card, Golden Abyss and wifi version for between $400-450... otherwise I'm just going to hold off for a few months.

This is what Sony should be working towards

It would be awesome to start a game on the PS3, pause it, and then continue it when im on the train

If they managed to get this sort of thing working well, it would give them an advantage of the competition

I'm keeping an eye on that too. Seeing as the units aren't region locked if I could get wifi ~$300 I'll just get it locally.

I'm waiting to see what deals the phone companies will do with them.

I know Vodaphone should have them first, I am currently with them for phone. If I combine plans I should save a few $'s...

Looking at upgrading my handset in the next month or two. Have been wanting to go to an Xperia play but if I get this well really don't need it so much.

I am wanting to be able to browse the net for basic stuff at work. My phone is not a great phone at the moment so not really good in that regard. My tablet is a HP Touchpad that doesn't work on my works wireless and my phone can't tether.. So its either go for a 3G Vita or a better phone with tether or a portable wifi etc.

So have a few things to decide and data quotas and plan costs to work out. But regardless I want one of these :). Wifi at home is no issue, won't use the 3G much other than at work if I decide on that way but really not the best device to take to work. Don't want to get the urge to start playing and the boss walks in :).

my friend is goin to japan on friday. should i ask him to buy me a 3G+ wifi model or wait for it to come out here in OZ?
i have a psp 2000 and not sure if i want to upgrade to a Vita.
thanks

JP models are carrier locked. 3G will be no use to you in OZ.

I hear the 3G is pretty useless anyway and beyond useless if you have a smart phone that can wifi hotspot. Save your money on the console and on a data contract and stick with the Wifi.

so if you get the wifi/3g ps vita do you need to have a 3g sim card in it to work?

can the psp vita detect files right off a usb hdd?

no. need to use Content Manager...it boots up when you plug your vita into a pc

Why would anyone want 3G? For browsing the net? I have a Optus iPhone and a Telstra iPad... connectivity is spotty no matter where I am (city or at home) so MP gaming would be absolutely shithouse, I can't even imagine how bad Vodafone 3G is

no problems here.

remember, people dont complain when something works fine. hence a small, pretty isolated problem is blown out or proportion

Yes, and a 3g data plan. So you'll be paying $100 more for your console + a data plan to get the added ability of browsing the internet off 3G. If you have a smart phone just do a wireless tether when you want internet on the go. It'll work better, be more convenient and cost a lot less.

Since I am in Hong Kong I managed to make my way into Sham Shui Po and bought a Wifi only version of the PS Vita. I managed to get it in a bundle deal where it came with the handheld, screen protector, 4gb memory stick (it's a proprietary one), Uncharted: Golden Abyss, and a carry case for $2980 HKD (or nearly $360 AUD).

I didn't know that all the games are on SD-like cards though.

Sorry if I missed it, but will there be no difference if I import one of these? None at all? (apart from power adapter obviously)

games are region free, and can be set to english...just needs more games!

Tempted to buy one, I can get a 3g with 16gb mem card for a smidge under 300 euro....

Lol I'd love to see a similar price breakdown for an iphone/ipad.

i haven't bothered to set up the PS vita and do any firmware stuff. should do it though.

yes because parts price break down is all there is when it comes to the cost of new hardware.people forget the costs of R&D which can cost in the millions just to create a marketable product. it has to be recouped somewhat or there would be no incentive for companies to further improve their products or create new products.

agreed, that was the point i was attempting to make by the comparison.

Ill get one when sales start. :)

I got mine from overseas yesterday. With value pack + Uncharted.

I can link up with PSN but can't get into PS Store using my existing PSN account.

Also noticed, you need the game card in the slot to play. And when you first put the card into the console, the button will pop up and notification will say "Installing" for like 5 seconds.

The game card needs to be in the console to play.

Not sure if the game card can now be used by another console though, I like it when back in the old days where you can swap/exchange games with friend or just put the game up for sale.

Non of those digital/account locking/no-resale/steam crap....

Vita bomba. Big W, Kmart and Target not stocking the Vita at launch (and who knows when they will).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=463197

wasnt gamestop threatening this as well? on the pspgo, because they couldnt sell games (where they got thier money) the vita has cheap digital versions, so they are probably thinking the same thing now

According to the thread, Kmart is saying it's "too expensive". With how poorly the PSP has performed here, I don't think they're keen to buy whatever amount Sony is pushing to them.

I wonder if this will assist with a price drop similar to what happened with the 3DS

I hope so :)

Got mine last week from overseas:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...9/IMG_0532.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...9/IMG_0534.jpg

i loved uncharted vita, very good

next is wipeout :)

Guys,

Can I please have ask for some help.

I just downloaded Patapon 3 using PS3. But when I try to load it into the Vita, it only says "no content found" (or something similar)

I followed the instruction:

Content Manager > PS3 to PS Vita > Applications > PSP Content (or something similar)

All I get is "No content found"

I know Patapon 3 works cause I've played it on my friends Vita system.

Can I please get some help? Much appreciated.