Is it time for a new PC? Or should I just upgrade :) ? - Page 2

Dint · 15th September 2009, 8:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kona_boy

Jesus, that's a pretty powerful system still and it still lags?! It has to be a video setting ingame like triple buffering or Vsync.

My current desktop rig plays it at the same res with everything on high except shadows which cripples it. My system is a bit dated especially compared to yours.

Are you talking about FRAPSing? Or just playing the game by itself?

I have absolutely no issues playing the game by itself, full settings, full res, max quality. It's when I FRAPS that it becomes an issue.

bucsta · 15th September 2009, 9:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dint

Are you talking about FRAPSing? Or just playing the game by itself?

I have absolutely no issues playing the game by itself, full settings, full res, max quality. It's when I FRAPS that it becomes an issue.

I'm running an almost identical system, never played WOW though, but I run into the same problems with Fraps. TBH I just gave up on it, didnt want to sacrifce res/settings to get better frames when using fraps.

I think upgrading to an SSD would make some difference.

samo · 15th September 2009, 10:39 AM

If you're only getting 80fps on max settings then perhaps a vid card will help a little.. though not much (and probably not worth it).

You can pick up a Zotac GTX275 for ~$250 these days. As for the remaining $100 in your budget you would see the biggest improvement (imo) with a new CPU perhaps, seeing that recording video with Fraps is more CPU dependant rather than GPU or RAM for example. Sell your Q6600 and get a more powerful quad.

edit: oh and just remember if you go for the SSD idea that Fraps will fill a 128 or 256GB drive in just a few minutes.

daddykool · 15th September 2009, 10:53 AM

thought about setting the affinity of the cpu? 2 cores to fraps and the other 2 to wow

Dint · 15th September 2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by samo

edit: oh and just remember if you go for the SSD idea that Fraps will fill a 128 or 256GB drive in just a few minutes.

Fraps records at about 2gb a minute. That means with a 128gb drive it can record about an hour of footage. I won't ever be recording for that long, and after it has recorded I can copy it over to my storage HDD.

Daddykool,

I tried setting the affinities, it doesn't make any noticible difference

kona_boy · 15th September 2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dint

Are you talking about FRAPSing? Or just playing the game by itself?

I have absolutely no issues playing the game by itself, full settings, full res, max quality. It's when I FRAPS that it becomes an issue.

Ooooh sorry my bad. I thought it was stuttering just playing lol.

Is it really a step down to record at half resolution? Also does disabling sound make a difference or do you specifically want the WoW sound? Keep in mind you can record ventrilo chat separately if you need it.

Just some ideas. Also, SSD is probably your best chance at the moment if you reallllly want full resolution. Lastly, remember that large SSD's are VERY expensive and that fraps uses and ass-ton of space uncompressed.

edit: beaten by a second lol

Dint · 15th September 2009, 11:56 AM

I might just go with an SSD and then later upgrade my GPU....

Dint · 15th September 2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kona_boy

Ooooh sorry my bad. I thought it was stuttering just playing lol.

Is it really a step down to record at half resolution? Also does disabling sound make a difference or do you specifically want the WoW sound? Keep in mind you can record ventrilo chat separately if you need it.

Just some ideas. Also, SSD is probably your best chance at the moment if you reallllly want full resolution. Lastly, remember that large SSD's are VERY expensive and that fraps uses and ass-ton of space uncompressed.

edit: beaten by a second lol

Yeah, half resolution gives really shitty quality, they don't scale it properly so it's not like it's just half res, it's also really bad quality.

I also want full resolution :P

I actually haven't tried disabling WoW sound, and no I don't need it at all. I'm going to try that now, hopefully it makes a difference!

Thanks for the advice.

And yeah, like I said before a 128gb SSD will give me over an hour of recording, which will be easily enough as I can always transfer to my storage hdd when it fills up.

I haven't installed a HDD before so it might be interesting >.>

EDIT::::

Tried with no sound, still spikes below 30 fps.

I really don't mind recording at 30fps, the only annoying thing is the spikes that put me below 30

millsy_c · 15th September 2009, 3:47 PM

Fraps really is a problem when it comes to recording. I didn't realise that 40mins of CS source would be 60gb, and when the FPS suddenly dropped to 2 when the HDD filled up I was pretty confused

Would a video camera still do an adequate job? You might be able to pick up a decent one for 350.

Dint · 15th September 2009, 4:55 PM

Hehe,

No a video camera would be horrible quality

Have a look at warcraftmovies.com

You'll see some examples of really quality movies that have been recorded using FRAPS.

kona_boy · 15th September 2009, 5:45 PM

Maybe try a different recording platform? Camtasia or something? I've got no idea what else is out there tbh.

Dint · 15th September 2009, 6:24 PM

I've tried a lot of platforms, they're all very similar...

Oh well, I'll keep my settings as is and I think I'll build a new system in about a month.

I'll be back for help :P

Dint · 15th September 2009, 6:25 PM

THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR CONTRIBUTING.

I really really do appreciate it

15th September 2009, 10:39 AM	#18
samo Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Adelaide Posts: 968	If you're only getting 80fps on max settings then perhaps a vid card will help a little.. though not much (and probably not worth it). You can pick up a Zotac GTX275 for ~$250 these days. As for the remaining $100 in your budget you would see the biggest improvement (imo) with a new CPU perhaps, seeing that recording video with Fraps is more CPU dependant rather than GPU or RAM for example. Sell your Q6600 and get a more powerful quad. edit: oh and just remember if you go for the SSD idea that Fraps will fill a 128 or 256GB drive in just a few minutes. Last edited by samo; 15th September 2009 at 10:43 AM.

15th September 2009, 5:45 PM	#26
kona_boy Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 5,141	Maybe try a different recording platform? Camtasia or something? I've got no idea what else is out there tbh. __________________ Brisbane Roar FC - 2010/11 and 2011/2012 Champions! CAMPEONES CAMPEONES OLE! OLE! OLE!

15th September 2009, 10:53 AM	#19
daddykool Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 334	thought about setting the affinity of the cpu? 2 cores to fraps and the other 2 to wow

15th September 2009, 11:56 AM	#22
Dint Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 21	I might just go with an SSD and then later upgrade my GPU....

15th September 2009, 4:55 PM	#25
Dint Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 21	Hehe, No a video camera would be horrible quality Have a look at warcraftmovies.com You'll see some examples of really quality movies that have been recorded using FRAPS.

15th September 2009, 6:24 PM	#27
Dint Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 21	I've tried a lot of platforms, they're all very similar... Oh well, I'll keep my settings as is and I think I'll build a new system in about a month. I'll be back for help :P

15th September 2009, 6:25 PM	#28
Dint Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 21	THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR CONTRIBUTING. I really really do appreciate it