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Old 3rd November 2009, 11:57 PM   #61
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Quick question for all.

With temps, what program should I use?

I use speed fan and it reads lower temps than Real Temp. But the temps shown in Speed fan reads the same as Everest Ultimate.

Im not sure what to go buy because by my understanding there is Tcase and Tjunction temps right?

So Im thinking speed fan is reading Tcase and Real temp is reading Tjunction??

Please add onto this.

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Use realtemp/coretemp they are good and accurate I suppose
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Old 4th November 2009, 12:07 AM   #62
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OK Very big question people, need input from all ASAP before I go ahead with hard overclocks. Please see the attached Picture of my Desktop with the programs I have monitoring my PC Temps. Tell me which is right/wrong if you know and which is Tcase/Tjunction temps.

I need insight into which Temp I should go buy so I can understand the limit of the Chips Heat capacity.

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Old 4th November 2009, 12:31 AM   #63
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I need insight into which Temp I should go buy so I can understand the limit of the Chips Heat capacity.
Personally, I'd spend some time/money buying the best 'Temp' possible (whatever that means)
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Old 4th November 2009, 12:40 AM   #64
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Old 4th November 2009, 12:56 AM   #65
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A lot of info into the whole Tcase Tjunction Temperature here http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/22...perature-guide
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Old 4th November 2009, 1:15 AM   #66
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It means it can provide up to 20 amps on one rail, but not more than 40 amps across all of the rails. It is something you'll find on any multi rail PSU - Take the Antec Signature 850w (A PSU known to be of high quality) for example: 4 +12V rails each rated at 25A. Max load for +12V is 65A, though obviously 4 x 25A =100A. By your logic any manufacturer that sells multi-rail PSUs cannot do basic multiplication.

Top Power should be quite a reasonable brand, they are the OEM behind many PSUs from other manufacturers.
not how it's worded

and corsair quotes their 'amps per rail' as it is, 9 per rail i think it is for the HX620. :/
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A lot of info into the whole Tcase Tjunction Temperature here http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/22...perature-guide
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Old 4th November 2009, 2:30 AM   #68
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Hey guys,

Just an update on how things are going.

Well at the moment im at 4.2Ghz. 21x200 at 1.375V CPU and 1.325 VTT/QPI.

Idle im 33 degrees, load 60-65 for Tcase and 46 idle and 75-80 Degrees Tjunction.

Ram is at 1200MHZ with 9-9-9-27 at 1.55V.

QPI is set to 3200MHZ x2 = 6400MHZ.

Windows gives me 7.6 on RAM/CPU now

Just a quick question tho guys. to feel better performance although atm shit these cpus are quick would you recommend me dropping multi to 20x200 for 4ghz and increasing ram to 1333 8-8-8-24 or going for 22x200 for 4.4GHZ and leaving 1200MHZ.
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Old 4th November 2009, 5:09 AM   #69
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Try both and bench both. Not likley to be a noticable difference without benchmark scores to go by. You might also try tightening RAM timings @ either frequency...
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not how it's worded

and corsair quotes their 'amps per rail' as it is, 9 per rail i think it is for the HX620. :/
On the HX620, each of the three +12V rails is rated for 18A - 18 x 3 = 54A, when it is rated for 50A total - that would suggest that Corsair lack multiplication skills. It's not as big a difference as most other PSUs, but Corsair makes reference to an "Advanced circuitry design that automatically enables power sharing between the triple +12V rails in an event of overload on any single +12V rail", which probably has an effect on the ratings.

Almost every other Corsair PSU uses a single +12V rail.

If you're still not convinced, look at the ratings for the Enermax Revolution 85+ 850w SLI - It features 6 +12V rails, each rated for 0 -30A - 30 x 6 = 180A, when the total for +12V is only 70A. You can't take the rail amperage rating not matching up with the total amperage rating as an indicator of a non reputable manufacturer.
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Old 4th November 2009, 11:42 AM   #71
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Depending whether your OS supports it, for stress testing and temps i would use a tool straight from the horse's mouth; Thermal Analysis Tool by Intel

I guarantee you nothing will heat up your CPU like this
http://i4memory.com/f55/intel-therma...tool-tat-3082/


This is what I use to tell if my OC is stable. Ussually if the OC is unstable itll crash my system in seconds. If it can handle half an hour, its probably good
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Cheers for your tip irR4tiOn4L will give that a try and see how it goes. Well im thinking of dropping multi to 20x and keep increasing bclk until I get 1333mhz RAM just for safe benchmarking and 24/7 use what do you guys think?

Then I can run ram at higher speeds because I think there is a bottleneck here with the RAM being such low speeds, DDR3 at 1200MHZ is DDR2 speeds, I was thinking of going 1333MHZ at 7-7-7-21.

Whats better higher BCLK for faster QPI or higher multiplier for faster cpu or mix of all meaing lower speeds on all but were we can max all componenets like 1333 ram 7200 qpi and 4000mhz cpu?

oh oh wanted to ask you guys something, with temps is it ok for my cpu temp to go up to around 85? that is the tjunction temp im talking about. And while the tjunction temp is at 85 can the tcase be ok at around 65?

Intel only states my tcase can be a max of 71.

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Old 4th November 2009, 2:16 PM   #73
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set your tjmax to 100 and dont let it go over 80
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X_bullet1 stop multi posting or I'll just delete your second post. Either edit your thread or use multi-quote.
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DeejW thank you for your input much appreciate it. The Tjunction max is already set in core temp to 99 which is good, I generally dont let the Tcase go above the 65 degree mark under full load and 85 for TJuntion. That should give me a good run with the life of the CPU shouldnt it?

Ma Baker no need to be so rude please next time I will edit the posts, im only new to forums.

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