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Old 4th November 2009, 8:57 PM   #46
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I dont think your looking under pc health. sounds like your looking under M.I.T
Look under PC Health.
It wont say 1.5v
just make sure its under 1.65, if it is leave it be, if not (if above 1.65) set it to 1.64v in the M.I.T

I strongly suggest you use Standard. Turbo and Extreme kills alot of hardware, Ive seen it kill CPU's and many ram kits.

Like i said, my UD5 and 920 load from pressing the power button gets to my Windows 7 desktop well within 10-20 seconds (realistically), I use a manual bios config to run all my parts at its rated speed and my performance enhance is sensibly set to Standard.

really, only use standard.

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Hows that going to help the on a fresh install of Windows 7 on a Vertex SSD?

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Old 4th November 2009, 9:02 PM   #47
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Your load time should already be far faster then mine OP, my time mentioned is on a standard 7200RPM 500GB disk, so once yours starts to loard off your disk, it should take no time at all to get to the desktop otherwise something may not be stable or healthy.

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Old 4th November 2009, 9:04 PM   #48
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I dont think your looking under pc health. sounds like your looking under M.I.T
Look under PC Health.
It wont say 1.5v
just make sure its under 1.65, if it is leave it be, if not (if above 1.65) set it to 1.64v in the M.I.T

I strongly suggest you use Standard. Turbo and Extreme kills alot of hardware, Ive seen it kill CPU's and many ram kits.

Like i said, my UD5 and 920 load from pressing the power button gets to my Windows 7 desktop well within 10 seconds, I use a manual bios config to run all my parts at its rated speed and my performance enhance is sensibly set to Standard.

really, only use standard.


Hows that going to help the on a fresh install of Windows 7 on a Vertex SSD?
Thanks for reply help is appreciated. Bit new to this thats why its in newbie section i have just built and turned on this is how all settings are. although i did use easy tune 6 and that stuffed up so might have something to do with this.

In pc health it has

vcore 1.252
ddr15v 1.568
+5v 4.99

im guessing that is what you are talking about.
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Old 4th November 2009, 11:10 PM   #49
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yea thats what im talking about, 1.568 is perfect as long as the system is running stable like that, keeping it at that voltage (even if its auto) is safe for your hardware.

Still, its an abnormal amount of startup time you have, something must be causing it, you shouldn't need ssd trim tools on a fresh setup (afaik) so it must be something else?
when you setup your Windows 7, did you have SATA native mode enabled? and how about AHCI mode?

You can have both of these enabled, AHCI may slow down POST time a little but native mode does nothing but allow you to run the disk at proper Sata II (3.0Gbps) speed. So if thats not enabled, enable it right away.

As for AHCI, it gives you features the disk will support such as hot swapping and Native command Queuing, but you may need to install a driver and change the registry in your windows 7 before it will boot from the current install (its best to have it enabled before you setup the windows, that way you dont run into startup BSOD's)

As long as the XMP is allowing you to run your ram at the right speeds, that shouldn't be the problem, Do you have anything you may not have mentioned installed in the pc? (ie, sata card, sound cards, internal card readers?) if so they may be a contributing factor to why its taking so long to POST.

I suggested in a previous post for you to disable full logo shadow, I tend to turn this off on the basis that it seems to post faster, but it really may not, if you try both settings and time it and if the amount of time is the same, then you can turn that back on as its just more preference then anything affecting POST performance.

It may also pay off to start a thread over at TweakTown forums, they host the official international Gigabyte forum inside their forum, some of the moderators and gigabyte staff may have some additional suggestions to speed up the POST time or may even tell you to try other things to work out why its not as fast as it should be
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Old 4th November 2009, 11:20 PM   #50
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Ok neither one of them were enabled so i have done that. but now i have gone into recovery mode so im guessing i need to do a clean install to make it all work again?

Edit. Probably should menstion the ssd drive has had windows installed a quite a few times first vista then 7beta then vista 7beta and the 7 twice. Also i do have an internal card reader hooked up to usb on mobo
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Old 4th November 2009, 11:47 PM   #51
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Leave AHCI off for now then but keep sata native mode on, your windows should still boot (provided you didnt tell the repair to write to it or if its left it as is), you'll just have better speeds to the disk.

You might want to look into the trim tools, visit ocz's site (check out the vertex product page and also checkout their support page for the ssd for trim tools) and also it might pay to visit their forums to see if they have any usage guides for keeping your ssd in the best condition.

I can't give you direct advice for keeping it in best condition as I haven't had the chance yet to own or even play around with SSDs :\

I would like to know more about what stage of booting is taking the longest time, the process should be really fast on any x58 motherboard, you have thet first screen 'the picture or bios text + ram + hdd screen' then you have the POST summary, where it shows you the table and tells you about the IRQ and other resources, then it starts booting off the drive.

Without raid enabled this all should happen quite quickly, by the time your monitor comes out of standby it should be just showing the POST summary screen, mine sure does and thats like no more then four seconds after pressing the power button on my case.

then loading Windows 7 off an SSD should take bugger all time at all on your specs, like maybe another 10-15 seconds tops.

anymore then that and somethings not optimized or set properly.
tell me about what part takes the longest and lets see if something can't or can be figured out how to correct it


edit: if you want to be that particular about post times, it might be worth testing to see if it starts up faster with only half the ram installed, or with the WD drive unplugged, it could even be the graphics card delaying the post (not much can be done if that is the case)

The system shouldn't take minutes to startup as your OP stated, im glad youve managed to improve it already, i do think that if you do some research on best care for your ssd that its going to help that tiny bit more too, at some stage though it may just come down to the hardware combination and you'll have to get it to a state where your happy to wait a certain duration, im sure someones probably recommended you to use S3 sleep, I used it for quite a while because my system on time back when i had RAID enabled (I really hated having to wait for the raid screen to process the disks, its quite slow to have to tolerate all the time). S3 will let you fire up to your desktop in like 3 seconds tops, you just need to do a restart every now and then to keep the system running in its best state (IMO, restart advice is probably arguable)

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Old 5th November 2009, 6:39 PM   #52
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I found this at ocz site about trim tools but doesnt say windows 7 .


At the moment i havnt been able to get it to boot since enabling those 2 last things so they are enabled and am doing a fresh install will post times ect once done.
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Old 5th November 2009, 7:13 PM   #53
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Ok fresh install done so only windows is installed on OS drive (SSD) 43 secs

From time i push power button to time monitor is out of standby and into bois text 16sec.

another 8sec to load bois text & post summery

and 19sec to load windows and ready to use.
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Old 6th November 2009, 6:37 PM   #54
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49 SECONDS?!

I wish I could have that startup time. My one takes a little over a minute to get everything loaded.

The only things I have in msconfig are: Kaspersky, Audio Manager, and Gadgets.

I'm on Windows 7 and have heaps of programs installed, running on:

i7 920, Gigabyte UD4P, 6GB Kingston 1333mhz RAM, 1TB Seagate, BluRay Reader and DVD Writer, Wireless Network Card (TPLINK), 850W power supply

I've changed the number of processors to use in msconfig, removed all unneeded services, set all the settings in the BIOS suggested above and still just a bit over 1 minute.

Any ideas on what I should do?

Sorry to hijack your thread btw.
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Old 6th November 2009, 8:54 PM   #55
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Man mine takes idiotically long my screwed crappy p4 with xp boots quicker
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I think the answer is asus p6t deluxe 2 few guys have said they hare getting 20secs ready to use.
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They probably have quick boot enabled. Anyone know where the Quick Boot is on the Gigabyte UD4P?
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