E5200 Question

glenpinn · 6th November 2009, 12:30 AM

hi there, just wondering why an E5200 cpu is called an "Intel Pentium Dual Core" and not a "Core 2 Duo"

i bought an E5200 6 weeks ago for my daughter pc only to realize tonight its actually called an Intel Pentium Dual Core.

why ???

cheers

glussier · 6th November 2009, 3:43 AM

Pentium is just a name that Intel wanted to keep. The Pentium name doesn't change the fact that the processor is still a core 2 duo with 2 megs of l2 cache.

anlashok · 6th November 2009, 4:22 AM

Intel has made a lot of processors over the years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...icroprocessors

You will find Pentium Dual Core is a "older technology/cut down" than Core 2 Duo, they still make them because they are cheap. Your latest technology is the Core i5 7xx / Core i7 8xx for mainstream and the Core i7 9xx Premium level Chips.

salochin · 6th November 2009, 8:17 AM

It's just a marketing thing. Intel seem to think that the name "Pentium Dual Core" is better for positioning the product line. It really is just a Wolfdale core sans some of the cache.

glenpinn · 6th November 2009, 10:18 AM

thx guys, answered it great.

Utetopia · 7th November 2009, 12:11 PM

The other burning question is: Which CPUs support VT & which don't?

From what I've gathered, the E7xxx and onwards are the only CPUs to support it. It all gets messy though with the old E4xxx series.

Could someone do my homework for me?

anlashok · 7th November 2009, 1:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utetopia

The other burning question is: Which CPUs support VT & which don't?

From what I've gathered, the E7xxx and onwards are the only CPUs to support it. It all gets messy though with the old E4xxx series.

Could someone do my homework for me?

Homework...on the Weekend!

Dual Core
Core 2 Duo
Core 2 Quad
Core i5
Core i7

glussier · 7th November 2009, 1:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utetopia

The other burning question is: Which CPUs support VT & which don't?

From what I've gathered, the E7xxx and onwards are the only CPUs to support it. It all gets messy though with the old E4xxx series.

Could someone do my homework for me?

The E7xxx series doesn't support vt, but the new E6xxx, replacement for the E5xxx series do support vt.

Utetopia · 7th November 2009, 6:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anlashok

Homework...on the Weekend!

Dual Core
Core 2 Duo
Core 2 Quad
Core i5
Core i7

3 of the 5 E5300's are VT enabled with the SLGTL sspec. Mine is the older SLGU9 which doesn't support it. My other E6300 is also SLGU9 but has VT.

Can VT be unlocked? Maybe a mobo BIOS hack?

Mau1wurf1977 · 7th November 2009, 6:59 PM

Intel didn't see VT becoming important. But now with the W7 XP mode its a big issue for OEMs as the cheaper notebooks all can't run VT...

Butcher9_9 · 8th November 2009, 10:24 AM

what you really have to ask yourself is does it matter

as long as the CPU is fast enough, cheap enough and does not draw too much power then that should be good enough

its not like your daughter needs an E-penis

glenpinn · 10th November 2009, 9:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butcher9_9

what you really have to ask yourself is does it matter

no it doesnt matter either way, i just wanted to ask why my e5200 was called an intel pentium dual core and not a core2duo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butcher9_9

as long as the CPU is fast enough, cheap enough and does not draw too much power then that should be good enough

yeah im happy with it, but thats not what i was asking

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butcher9_9

its not like your daughter needs an E-penis

i asked a simple question that was already answered by some very helpful posters, and thats where it should have been left, but i didnt appreciate this comment and it was just plain stupid of you to post it.

MODS PLEASE CLOSE THIS if possible

Utetopia · 10th November 2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenpinn

no it doesnt matter either way, i just wanted to ask why my e5200 was called an intel pentium dual core and not a core2duo

yeah im happy with it, but thats not what i was asking

i asked a simple question that was already answered by some very helpful posters, and thats where it should have been left, but i didnt appreciate this comment and it was just plain stupid of you to post it.

MODS PLEASE CLOSE THIS if possible

He was probably referring to me. Who knows who cares. Put him on the ignore list.

glenpinn · 10th November 2009, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utetopia

He was probably referring to me. Who knows who cares. Put him on the ignore list.

no he was referring to my opening post, and obviously didnt think my question was really that valid, but his 3rd comment was the one i dont think was needed, just more stupid crap from posters who feel they need to thread crap and not offer anything relating to the topic.

cheers

6th November 2009, 12:30 AM	#1
glenpinn Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: hobart Posts: 803	E5200 Question hi there, just wondering why an E5200 cpu is called an "Intel Pentium Dual Core" and not a "Core 2 Duo" i bought an E5200 6 weeks ago for my daughter pc only to realize tonight its actually called an Intel Pentium Dual Core. why ??? cheers

6th November 2009, 4:22 AM	#3
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6th November 2009, 3:43 AM	#2
glussier Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, Que, Canada Posts: 158	Pentium is just a name that Intel wanted to keep. The Pentium name doesn't change the fact that the processor is still a core 2 duo with 2 megs of l2 cache.

6th November 2009, 10:18 AM	#5
glenpinn Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: hobart Posts: 803	thx guys, answered it great.

7th November 2009, 12:11 PM	#6
Utetopia Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: BNE/TWMBA Posts: 2,261	The other burning question is: Which CPUs support VT & which don't? From what I've gathered, the E7xxx and onwards are the only CPUs to support it. It all gets messy though with the old E4xxx series. Could someone do my homework for me?