Arcade screen supplier help...

gtguru · 18th December 2010, 11:43 PM

Chasing an arcade screen around 26" (wells gardner etc.)

elvis · 19th December 2010, 10:32 AM

http://www.jomac.net.au/

http://www.zax.com.au/

http://www.highway.net.au/

http://www.gamedude.com.au/arcade/

gtguru · 19th December 2010, 5:58 PM

With the chassis from Jomac can you just utilise a 68cm TV tube and that would be the same as a proper arcade unit???

elvis · 20th December 2010, 7:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtguru

With the chassis from Jomac can you just utilise a 68cm TV tube and that would be the same as a proper arcade unit???

Correct. I've done this with a 21" TV, and have a few more old TVs I'm going to do it again with.

WARNING: TVs contain very high voltages. Please be careful if you go down this path, and do your research.

gtguru · 20th December 2010, 2:25 PM

After picking up a broken 68cm NEC tv off the side of the road yesterday, I've spoken to Jomac and they reckon they have a dual res chassis that will do the job for $240. The only thing I'm concerned with is setting up the freq so I don't blow the tube up. I've heard this is more probable at 15Khz, but is there anything special to do with 25Khz or 31Khz. Is the arcadeVGA video card required for these freq's?

gtguru · 20th December 2010, 4:53 PM

I've seen these vga to cga adapters on fleabay. Are they a suitable alternative to the arcadeVGA video card? Seeing that the AGP version of these cards are obsolete now...

elvis · 20th December 2010, 9:08 PM

ArcadeVGAs and j-Pacs can be set to force 15KHz-only modes to your monitor. It's a great way to protect the device from ranges it can't display.

gtguru · 20th December 2010, 10:22 PM

The chassis I've ordered is apparently a dual frequency unit, so is it still necessary to use an ArcadeVGA videocard? Seeing that I don't have to run at 15Mhz.... Whats with the Jpac you linked to? Thats for a jamma setup. I'm trying to setup MAME... Not trying to have a go at you or anything, I'm new to this and obviously you have a lot of experience. I just don't seem to understand

Are the VGA to CGA adapters worthwhile or BS?

elvis · 20th December 2010, 11:17 PM

VGA to CGA converters merely downscale/downsample the existing resolution. The resulting picture won't be as clear as native.

An ArcadeVGA is definitely the easiest way to get native arcade modelines. You can also use software like Soft15KHz, although that won't protect you from 31KHz modes during bootup (not without a J-Pac).

The J-Pac is just a Jamma connector on an I-Pac. There's nothing stopping you using a JAMMA harness attached to your new chassis and an J-Pac (essentially building your own JAMMA arcade cabinet).

Boiling it down:

ArcadeVGA + I-Pac = 15KHz safe
J-Pac + Soft15KHz = 15KHz safe
I-Pac + Soft15KHz = potentially not 15KHz safe (depending on the arcade chassis from Jomac, and what sort of automatic cut-out it does or does not have).

gtguru · 16th January 2011, 10:02 PM

What I've already got is a 27" tube with dual res chassis. PC mame 0.139 setup with Tiny7 windows. Hardware as follows:

F-190HD Fatality mobo
E6400
2Gb DDR2-800
250Gb Scorpio Blue 2.5"
Keywiz ST40 encoder

Not sure what menu to use yet.... Advancemame?

elvis · 16th January 2011, 11:51 PM

You can use any front end you like at 480i.

AdvanceMAME/AdvanceMenu isn't actively developed any more, and is getting quite out of date.

gtguru · 17th January 2011, 12:16 PM

So whats the latest and greatest???

Ease of setup would also be good for me....

azron · 17th January 2011, 1:10 PM

I use MaLa. Easy as and if you want, highly configurable.

http://malafe.net/

elvis · 17th January 2011, 1:15 PM

I'm a Linux user, so Wah!Cade is my pick.

MaLa and Hyperspin seem to be the favourites in Windows land.

18th December 2010, 11:43 PM	#1
gtguru Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newy Posts: 28	Arcade screen supplier help... Chasing an arcade screen around 26" (wells gardner etc.) __________________ P6T-SE with P6T Sli bios, i7 950, 2x EVGA GTX480's, 12Gb OCZ, 750W TT EVO BLUE, ANTEC 900, H50, 2Tb HDD, Gskill Falcon II 64G OS Drive, 3x20" dell's in 3D on proluma stand.

19th December 2010, 10:32 AM	#2
elvis Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 19,879	http://www.jomac.net.au/ http://www.zax.com.au/ http://www.highway.net.au/ http://www.gamedude.com.au/arcade/ __________________ Child's Play Charity

19th December 2010, 5:58 PM	#3
gtguru Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newy Posts: 28	With the chassis from Jomac can you just utilise a 68cm TV tube and that would be the same as a proper arcade unit??? __________________ P6T-SE with P6T Sli bios, i7 950, 2x EVGA GTX480's, 12Gb OCZ, 750W TT EVO BLUE, ANTEC 900, H50, 2Tb HDD, Gskill Falcon II 64G OS Drive, 3x20" dell's in 3D on proluma stand.

20th December 2010, 2:25 PM	#5
gtguru Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newy Posts: 28	After picking up a broken 68cm NEC tv off the side of the road yesterday, I've spoken to Jomac and they reckon they have a dual res chassis that will do the job for $240. The only thing I'm concerned with is setting up the freq so I don't blow the tube up. I've heard this is more probable at 15Khz, but is there anything special to do with 25Khz or 31Khz. Is the arcadeVGA video card required for these freq's? __________________ P6T-SE with P6T Sli bios, i7 950, 2x EVGA GTX480's, 12Gb OCZ, 750W TT EVO BLUE, ANTEC 900, H50, 2Tb HDD, Gskill Falcon II 64G OS Drive, 3x20" dell's in 3D on proluma stand.

20th December 2010, 4:53 PM	#6
gtguru Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newy Posts: 28	I've seen these vga to cga adapters on fleabay. Are they a suitable alternative to the arcadeVGA video card? Seeing that the AGP version of these cards are obsolete now... __________________ P6T-SE with P6T Sli bios, i7 950, 2x EVGA GTX480's, 12Gb OCZ, 750W TT EVO BLUE, ANTEC 900, H50, 2Tb HDD, Gskill Falcon II 64G OS Drive, 3x20" dell's in 3D on proluma stand.

20th December 2010, 9:08 PM	#7
elvis Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 19,879	ArcadeVGAs and j-Pacs can be set to force 15KHz-only modes to your monitor. It's a great way to protect the device from ranges it can't display. __________________ Child's Play Charity

20th December 2010, 10:22 PM	#8
gtguru Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newy Posts: 28	The chassis I've ordered is apparently a dual frequency unit, so is it still necessary to use an ArcadeVGA videocard? Seeing that I don't have to run at 15Mhz.... Whats with the Jpac you linked to? Thats for a jamma setup. I'm trying to setup MAME... Not trying to have a go at you or anything, I'm new to this and obviously you have a lot of experience. I just don't seem to understand Are the VGA to CGA adapters worthwhile or BS? __________________ P6T-SE with P6T Sli bios, i7 950, 2x EVGA GTX480's, 12Gb OCZ, 750W TT EVO BLUE, ANTEC 900, H50, 2Tb HDD, Gskill Falcon II 64G OS Drive, 3x20" dell's in 3D on proluma stand. Last edited by gtguru; 20th December 2010 at 10:28 PM.

20th December 2010, 11:17 PM	#9
elvis Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 19,879	VGA to CGA converters merely downscale/downsample the existing resolution. The resulting picture won't be as clear as native. An ArcadeVGA is definitely the easiest way to get native arcade modelines. You can also use software like Soft15KHz, although that won't protect you from 31KHz modes during bootup (not without a J-Pac). The J-Pac is just a Jamma connector on an I-Pac. There's nothing stopping you using a JAMMA harness attached to your new chassis and an J-Pac (essentially building your own JAMMA arcade cabinet). Boiling it down: ArcadeVGA + I-Pac = 15KHz safe J-Pac + Soft15KHz = 15KHz safe I-Pac + Soft15KHz = potentially not 15KHz safe (depending on the arcade chassis from Jomac, and what sort of automatic cut-out it does or does not have). __________________ Child's Play Charity Last edited by elvis; 20th December 2010 at 11:38 PM.

16th January 2011, 10:02 PM	#10
gtguru Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newy Posts: 28	What I've already got is a 27" tube with dual res chassis. PC mame 0.139 setup with Tiny7 windows. Hardware as follows: F-190HD Fatality mobo E6400 2Gb DDR2-800 250Gb Scorpio Blue 2.5" Keywiz ST40 encoder Not sure what menu to use yet.... Advancemame? __________________ P6T-SE with P6T Sli bios, i7 950, 2x EVGA GTX480's, 12Gb OCZ, 750W TT EVO BLUE, ANTEC 900, H50, 2Tb HDD, Gskill Falcon II 64G OS Drive, 3x20" dell's in 3D on proluma stand. Last edited by gtguru; 16th January 2011 at 10:10 PM.

16th January 2011, 11:51 PM	#11
elvis Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 19,879	You can use any front end you like at 480i. AdvanceMAME/AdvanceMenu isn't actively developed any more, and is getting quite out of date. __________________ Child's Play Charity

17th January 2011, 12:16 PM	#12
gtguru Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newy Posts: 28	So whats the latest and greatest??? Ease of setup would also be good for me.... __________________ P6T-SE with P6T Sli bios, i7 950, 2x EVGA GTX480's, 12Gb OCZ, 750W TT EVO BLUE, ANTEC 900, H50, 2Tb HDD, Gskill Falcon II 64G OS Drive, 3x20" dell's in 3D on proluma stand.

17th January 2011, 1:10 PM	#13
azron Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,039	I use MaLa. Easy as and if you want, highly configurable. http://malafe.net/ __________________ Insert 40 Quarters to continue...

17th January 2011, 1:15 PM	#14
elvis Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 19,879	I'm a Linux user, so Wah!Cade is my pick. MaLa and Hyperspin seem to be the favourites in Windows land. __________________ Child's Play Charity