ADV: Looking for simple solution to complex problem! - Page 2

ddk · 23rd April 2012, 4:16 PM

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Originally Posted by aXis

There's nothing small about this. Standard serving sizes are 2 weetbix or 1/2 cup porridge.

Depends on whose 'standard' you're using. Two weetbix with two teaspoons of sugar and half a cup of full cream milk is only around 800-900kj. Breakfast should be around the 1500kj mark at least.

broccoli · 23rd April 2012, 4:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ddk

So, what you're suggesting is too much effort.

I disagree and think that it's less effort than you are expending at the moment. It isn't ONE meal, it's 4 or 5. You divvy it up. Stick it in the fridge or freezer, take it out and nuke it. You are cooking ONCE instead of every day.

I'm going to say something and I don't want you to think I'm having a go at you, because I'm not. Ok ?

Ok?

You seem to be looking to external factors to change you and your habits and you are rejecting suggestions because they are not good enough to "make" you change. They never will be. It needs to come from you. Somehow. We can't make the right meals appear at your house, and we can't give you the motivation to do anything other than what you are currently doing.

If you've got emotional issues making you eat and/or stopping you from doing anything to sort yourself out, food-wise, then you need a psychologist who deals with eating disorders.

If you are binge eating, you might qualify to get onto some home help services through your doctor or a psychologist. They come around and help get you doing things that you can't find the motivation for. If you could get a support worker around once a week and spend the time batching your meals for the week, that might help.

aXis · 23rd April 2012, 4:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ddk

Depends on whose 'standard' you're using

Oh I agree, 2 weetbix is stuff all. What I said however is 4 weetbix is not small - but you seem to think it is. Not a big deal, but be prepared to reduce serving sizings in general if you want to be healthier.

sormuijai · 23rd April 2012, 4:39 PM

Can you not have something similar for lunch? Basically cook double at night time. Eat half for dinner and save the rest for lunch. If you have access to a sandwich press or microwave, can heat up. Otherwise, have it cold like a salad. You can always jazz up your meat and veg with some salad dressing or sauces you can keep in your bag/draw to make it a bit different. i.e. peri peri etc. Buy some bread/pita/tortillas, and suddenly you have a sandwich/wrap. Chop it up, add some eggs and you have frittata.

In terms of effort, there's not much difference in cooking 1 piece of chicken vs 2 pieces.

Once you get used to eating lunch, your dinner portion size can go down, because you're not starving by the time it comes to dinner.

Benno1988 · 23rd April 2012, 4:58 PM

By a loaf of bread Sunday. And a loaf Wednesday. Multigrain.

Go sliced ham Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

Go sliced Chicken Thursday and Friday.

Weekend is the weekend, whatever.

Sandwiches are win. Simplist to shop for because anything goes on them. Easy to make because that anything just goes on it.

Grimace22 · 27th April 2012, 12:28 AM

whats wrong with a god damn sandwhich for lunch

Got a fridge at work? keep some sliced cheese, ham etc, tomato and put it together. There not much simpler than that im afraid, and yes you are talking to a fellow lazy bastard

You could keep frozen veg in the freezer, cook two pieces of meat(when you cook dinner), one slightly undercooked, then nuke it in the microwave the next day?

purehybrid · 27th April 2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ddk

but I'm not at that stage yet.

imo, the fact that you posted this thread says you are at that stage. You've acknowledged to yourself that you want to do X... now fucking do it.

Set yourself 2 recurring phone alarms:
1) 6:30/7:00pm each night - Start cooking dinner
2) 10:00am saturday - Plan meals for next week

and just fucking do it. You don't need any more motivation... you had the motivation to make a forum thread = you have the motivation to set some alarms... and you're probably already used to doing things you don't wanna do that your phone tells you to do (ie getting up for work

).

darkanjel · 27th April 2012, 12:45 PM

There's nothing wrong with eating once a day vs three or even five, so long as the total amount you eat doesn't exceed your daily requirements and your macros are right... The problem you're saying is you don't control your eating habits for when you skip meals.

I also had the same habit of only eating dinner daily until I moved out on my own. I gained 30kgs over the next three years eating two-three times daily. When I used a 2k deficit program to drop 10kgs over two months (once a year from 95 to 65), I used fillers like lite/soy milk, silken tofu, eggs and water to help with feeling satiated. I don't recommend it but I ate small amounts (50g-100g) of chips/snacks that are high sodium and that helped with drinking more water and was able to "skip meals" easier.

I also find it costs me more to eat right, the low salt/sugar/fat/anything option usually costs more due to lesser demand. As such I don't restrict my budget on food, I see it as paying for the body and body chemistry that I want. I also don't go nuts either but I'll spend at least $80 a week just on meat from the supermarket just for dinner.

Here are some simple and tasteless meal suggestions for lunch and the actual time it takes you to prepare it:
400g roast from Woolies - two minutes (shove in oven)
roast chicken/pork/lamb/beef - three minutes (shove in oven, put away left overs)
steamed fish with soy sauce - five minutes (scaling an already scaled fish then microwave)
steak and eggs - six minutes (this one you have to stand around to cook)
boiled eggs - three minutes (peeling shell)
silken tofu - one minute (open and microwave)
protein shake - three minutes (combine ingredients then blend)
tuna and beans salad - three minutes (open can of tuna, beans, corn, mix)

BTW, eating breakfast will make you more hungry for lunch. You may find it more comfortable to eat lunch and dinner instead of breakfast and dinner.

XST · 27th April 2012, 4:17 PM

I have been on this plan for a couple of months now, lost 17kg through it too

. In general:

Breakfast - 2 eggs and 2 pieces of bacon
Lunch - Chicken salad
Dinner - variety of meats / veg / etc

My food bill is probably $70 per week or so. Very average approximation:

Eggs - $6 (I buy free range, but if you want to go cheaper, $2 homebrand cage eggs will do

)
Bacon - $5
Chicken Breast $3.50 (5 servings)
Salad - $7 (Carrots, beans, cucumber, lettuce, lasts a week). I sometimes have this contributing towards dinner. I can't eat many cooked vegies, so that salad will do.
2 pieces lamb chop - $8
2 pieces pork chop - $8
2 pieces steak - $12
6 gourmet sausages: $6 (1 per day)
(small portions of each meat per meal, you'll be amazed how long it lasts you)

Total: $55.50. This leaves you spare to have take-away for one day, salad dressing, etc)

The above may not be for everyone, but I lost 17kg through it. www.marksdailyapple.com is a good resource for this style of living (and yes, I believe it's healthy)

Widman · 27th April 2012, 8:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ddk

This is about habit forming and one of the things that keeps me from forming good eating habits, ie. three properly proportioned meals a day, is that I look for any excuse not to change.

QFT

Cliches are cliches because they are true ....

"Change comes from within"

Write what you want to do on a piece of paper.
Photocopy it 100 times
Stick it everywhere - bathroom, toilet, bedroom, back of front door, next to telephone, screensaver on computer, on your phone, front of the phone book, steeringwheel of car, everywhere so that everytime you start thinking in the old way you are reminded that you PROMISED YOURSELF you would think in a new and different way.

It's up to you pal, no one else can make it happen.

Good luck
Peace

lethoso · 27th April 2012, 8:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ddk

By complex I mean... when it comes to cooking, I'm incredibly lazy. Unless cooking for others, I tend to find anything more than microwaving to be a hassle. It's odd, but when I cook for others, I tend to pull out all the stops and don't even mind the cleaning up afterwards. But for myself? Ugh, pushing a button sometimes is even too much effort.

If slowcooking is too much effort for you then you might as well just resign yourself to a slow death by fast food. It's definitely the lowest effort method of cooking. I do a slow cooker meal once or twice a week & freeze it in portions, roughly an hour or two of chopping shit up while I watch tv, throw it in the slowcooker, come back later and it's done. Mix with the last few weeks of cooking and I eat a different meal each night, for a bare minimum of effort.

You sound like you need to fix your brain problems not your diet. Though a better diet will probably help with the brain problems too.

broccoli · 27th April 2012, 9:29 PM

ddk, if you are still out there, we can help jolly you along to try to make some changes. Please don't think it's hopeless, because it may not be

GrueHunter · 29th April 2012, 9:19 PM

Geez, dude asked for lunch recipes, not guidance counselling.

Tuna and rice

185g can tuna in olive oil
1/2 bag '90 second' microwaved brown rice
Handful of rocket leaves, ripped up
Mandarin segments cut in half

Mix. Don't drain the tuna. Eat.

Eggs 'n' muffins

English muffin, toasted
2 eggs, poached in microwave poacher
Rocket leaves
Sliced tomato

Put sliced tomato, rocket and an egg on each half of muffin. Eat.

23rd April 2012, 4:39 PM	#19
sormuijai Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,121	Can you not have something similar for lunch? Basically cook double at night time. Eat half for dinner and save the rest for lunch. If you have access to a sandwich press or microwave, can heat up. Otherwise, have it cold like a salad. You can always jazz up your meat and veg with some salad dressing or sauces you can keep in your bag/draw to make it a bit different. i.e. peri peri etc. Buy some bread/pita/tortillas, and suddenly you have a sandwich/wrap. Chop it up, add some eggs and you have frittata. In terms of effort, there's not much difference in cooking 1 piece of chicken vs 2 pieces. Once you get used to eating lunch, your dinner portion size can go down, because you're not starving by the time it comes to dinner. __________________ Food Blog: http://hungrysormuijai.blogspot.com/

23rd April 2012, 4:58 PM	#20
Benno1988 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 2,701	By a loaf of bread Sunday. And a loaf Wednesday. Multigrain. Go sliced ham Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Go sliced Chicken Thursday and Friday. Weekend is the weekend, whatever. Sandwiches are win. Simplist to shop for because anything goes on them. Easy to make because that anything just goes on it. __________________ 225/70r16 Tyres + Wheels for Sale. PM me.

27th April 2012, 12:28 AM	#21
Grimace22 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Perth Posts: 1,157	whats wrong with a god damn sandwhich for lunch Got a fridge at work? keep some sliced cheese, ham etc, tomato and put it together. There not much simpler than that im afraid, and yes you are talking to a fellow lazy bastard You could keep frozen veg in the freezer, cook two pieces of meat(when you cook dinner), one slightly undercooked, then nuke it in the microwave the next day? Last edited by Grimace22; 27th April 2012 at 12:32 AM.

27th April 2012, 4:17 PM	#24
XST Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bris Posts: 1,259	I have been on this plan for a couple of months now, lost 17kg through it too . In general: Breakfast - 2 eggs and 2 pieces of bacon Lunch - Chicken salad Dinner - variety of meats / veg / etc My food bill is probably $70 per week or so. Very average approximation: Eggs - $6 (I buy free range, but if you want to go cheaper, $2 homebrand cage eggs will do ) Bacon - $5 Chicken Breast $3.50 (5 servings) Salad - $7 (Carrots, beans, cucumber, lettuce, lasts a week). I sometimes have this contributing towards dinner. I can't eat many cooked vegies, so that salad will do. 2 pieces lamb chop - $8 2 pieces pork chop - $8 2 pieces steak - $12 6 gourmet sausages: $6 (1 per day) (small portions of each meat per meal, you'll be amazed how long it lasts you) Total: $55.50. This leaves you spare to have take-away for one day, salad dressing, etc) The above may not be for everyone, but I lost 17kg through it. www.marksdailyapple.com is a good resource for this style of living (and yes, I believe it's healthy) __________________ Awesome Traders: mr_mordred2095 (x7), CD, Duck_Boy, comtechman911, Lem0n, Megido Flame, Volnhar, xb99, DraYTox, IceWind, MiniDisc, Leggit, Smokin Whale, dembones, JonBanez, chk, daehenoc (x2), MomijiTMO, Myst, akaminki, billet, mr_wrxman, _slappy_dn_, maarty, Raverz, Ash_Williams, Kevlarman Last edited by XST; 27th April 2012 at 4:19 PM.

27th April 2012, 12:45 PM	#23
darkanjel Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 341	There's nothing wrong with eating once a day vs three or even five, so long as the total amount you eat doesn't exceed your daily requirements and your macros are right... The problem you're saying is you don't control your eating habits for when you skip meals. I also had the same habit of only eating dinner daily until I moved out on my own. I gained 30kgs over the next three years eating two-three times daily. When I used a 2k deficit program to drop 10kgs over two months (once a year from 95 to 65), I used fillers like lite/soy milk, silken tofu, eggs and water to help with feeling satiated. I don't recommend it but I ate small amounts (50g-100g) of chips/snacks that are high sodium and that helped with drinking more water and was able to "skip meals" easier. I also find it costs me more to eat right, the low salt/sugar/fat/anything option usually costs more due to lesser demand. As such I don't restrict my budget on food, I see it as paying for the body and body chemistry that I want. I also don't go nuts either but I'll spend at least $80 a week just on meat from the supermarket just for dinner. Here are some simple and tasteless meal suggestions for lunch and the actual time it takes you to prepare it: 400g roast from Woolies - two minutes (shove in oven) roast chicken/pork/lamb/beef - three minutes (shove in oven, put away left overs) steamed fish with soy sauce - five minutes (scaling an already scaled fish then microwave) steak and eggs - six minutes (this one you have to stand around to cook) boiled eggs - three minutes (peeling shell) silken tofu - one minute (open and microwave) protein shake - three minutes (combine ingredients then blend) tuna and beans salad - three minutes (open can of tuna, beans, corn, mix) BTW, eating breakfast will make you more hungry for lunch. You may find it more comfortable to eat lunch and dinner instead of breakfast and dinner.

29th April 2012, 9:19 PM	#28
GrueHunter Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Canberra Posts: 239	Geez, dude asked for lunch recipes, not guidance counselling. Tuna and rice 185g can tuna in olive oil 1/2 bag '90 second' microwaved brown rice Handful of rocket leaves, ripped up Mandarin segments cut in half Mix. Don't drain the tuna. Eat. Eggs 'n' muffins English muffin, toasted 2 eggs, poached in microwave poacher Rocket leaves Sliced tomato Put sliced tomato, rocket and an egg on each half of muffin. Eat.