Nikon D600 - An entry level camera FULL FRAME?! - Page 2

SyN · 30th April 2012, 12:58 AM

instead of replacing d700 or making a 'd700s', whatever is gonna come out will be more of a continuation of the d100/d200/d300 line i reckon

joxer · 30th April 2012, 1:20 AM

FF D4 sensor based cam would retail for $2.5 to $3k I think, you're dreaming if they would even consider $1.5 to $2k, that's D7000 territory.

assuming they are even considering releasing something like this then I would consider it for a backup.

methd · 30th April 2012, 4:29 AM

Assuming it exists, I can't see why it can't be the same price as the current D800. They're different cameras and ppl buy the one that's relevant to their needs. A little like the D3x and D3s variants.

Perhaps we'll see something like this in the long run:

D800 and D4x as high MP studio/landscape
D600 and D4 as high speed high ISO

Schnooper · 24th May 2012, 9:41 AM

Some more updated specs here;

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/05/23/ne...px/#more-39666

And we "might" see some more info in the next few days.

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There are also rumors that Nikon has invited some European resellers for a meeting in Casablanca on 28 May, 2012. I am not sure if this is related to the D600.

New/updated Nikon D600 specifications:

24.7MP full frame sensor
Weight: 760g (850g with battery and memory cards), the D800 weights 900g
3.2" LCD with 921K dot with ambient sensor control
HDMI output
Video compression: H264/MPEG-4
Full HD with 30p, 25p, 24p, HD with 60p, 50p, 30p, 25p
Viewfinder coverage: 100% for FX , 97% for Dx
The Nikon D600 will have built-in AF motor
The body most probably will be weather sealed
The D600 may not have built-in GPS as initially reported
ISO range: 100-6400 (with Lo-1 ISO 50 and Hi-2 ISO 25,600)
39 AF points (with an option of 11 AF points), 9 cross-type AF points
AF face detection
Exposure compensation: ±5 EV (same as the D800)
The D600 will probably use the EN-EL15 rechargeable Li-ion battery
Previously reported Nikon D600 specs:

5 fps (same as the D700, the D800 has 4fps)
2 SD card slots with Eye-fi support
Build-in retouching images functionality
Built-in flash with sync speed of 1/250s
Two user settings: U1 and U2
Fn button
Auto DX crop mode
In-camera RAW editor
Built in time-lapse functionality
Possibly with build-in HDR
New external battery grip
To be released this summer
The D600 will probably not have an internal AF motor, which means it will work only with AF-S lenses (just like the D3200 and D5100)
The price of the D600 is rumored to be very low - maybe as low as $1500
Announcement before Photokina (September 2012)
One or more low-priced f/4 lenses will be announced with the D600. For example, Nikon recently filed a patent for a 24-70mm f/3.5-4.5 full frame lens which seems to be designed for a cheaper FX DSLR body

I am really thinking hard about a D800, but I might wait as I reckon this is a better fit for me.

oculi · 24th May 2012, 9:55 AM

I doubt this rumour is true, but if it is i will wait for canon to offer something similar and buy that.

how can it have 97% coverage for DX? what does a DX lens usually look like through the finder of an "FX" Nikon?

Deftone2k · 24th May 2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by oculi

I doubt this rumour is true, but if it is i will wait for canon to offer something similar and buy that.

how can it have 97% coverage for DX? what does a DX lens usually look like through the finder of an "FX" Nikon?

Looks normal. You have a DX mode inner lit up bars in the VF showing you where it will crop it.

ElBeasto · 24th May 2012, 10:30 AM

If a D600 comes out as more of a D700/FX replacement than a D300s one, I reckon $2500 - $2800 AUD.

Would make a decision pretty difficult for me between it and the D800/E.
Much prefer the AF drive in case of an old lens going cheap but then again 75MB NEF's, ouch.

EDIT: Oh the new specs have an AF motor included?

iXeR0 · 24th May 2012, 12:15 PM

If it's the same 39-point AF from the D7000 then no thanks, whatever the price. However, it should be quite nice for video for whoever is into that sort of thing.

Menthu_Rae · 24th May 2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by iXeR0

If it's the same 39-point AF from the D7000 then no thanks, whatever the price. However, it should be quite nice for video for whoever is into that sort of thing.

What is wrong with the D7k AF? I have had a D7k for over a year and never had any problems with AF. The only thing I hate about my D7k is the ISO performance/lack thereof... and the fact it is a crop sensor.

A cheap FF would be a nice upgrade for someone like me (I would love a D800 but can't justify the price).

HumbleBum · 24th May 2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ElBeasto

If a D600 comes out as more of a D700/FX replacement than a D300s one, I reckon $2500 - $2800 AUD.

Would make a decision pretty difficult for me between it and the D800/E.
Much prefer the AF drive in case of an old lens going cheap but then again 75MB NEF's, ouch.

EDIT: Oh the new specs have an AF motor included?

140 files.. 7.09gb..

oculi · 24th May 2012, 1:05 PM

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Originally Posted by iXeR0

If it's the same 39-point AF from the D7000 then no thanks, whatever the price. However, it should be quite nice for video for whoever is into that sort of thing.

who cares, i wouldn't mind a FF camera having one AF point if the price was right.

sunrise · 24th May 2012, 1:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Menthu_Rae

The only thing I hate about my D7k is the ISO performance/lack thereof... and the fact it is a crop sensor

I think the iso performance of the d7000 is AWESOME.. it's a crop so I'm not sure what you're comparing it to

those whinging about the AF need not worry, Nikon already have you sorted; there's the d800...

jars121 · 24th May 2012, 2:28 PM

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Originally Posted by iXeR0

If it's the same 39-point AF from the D7000 then no thanks, whatever the price. However, it should be quite nice for video for whoever is into that sort of thing.

The most AF points I've ever had on a camera is 11, and I honestly don't think I'd ever need more than that. I'm not sure how people struggle so hard with 30+ points.

ElBeasto · 24th May 2012, 2:36 PM

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Originally Posted by iXeR0

If it's the same 39-point AF from the D7000 then no thanks, whatever the price. However, it should be quite nice for video for whoever is into that sort of thing.

Why? What's wrong with the AF system/points on a D7k?

Menthu_Rae · 24th May 2012, 2:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sunrise

I think the iso performance of the d7000 is AWESOME.. it's a crop so I'm not sure what you're comparing it to

those whinging about the AF need not worry, Nikon already have you sorted; there's the d800...

Comparing to my mates D700

I often go out shooting with him, one time we were taking some waterfall shots at dusk deep in a valley - we were both using B+W 10 stop ND filters - I was shooting ISO1600 @ 80s, f/5.6 or so and he was doing ISO200 @ 5s, f/8 or so [maybe not exact but it was something like this!]... and his images were nearly twice as bright as mine

That instance (and a few others) made me want full frame... crop is a crock!

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24th May 2012, 9:55 AM	#20
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24th May 2012, 10:30 AM	#22
ElBeasto Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,909	If a D600 comes out as more of a D700/FX replacement than a D300s one, I reckon $2500 - $2800 AUD. Would make a decision pretty difficult for me between it and the D800/E. Much prefer the AF drive in case of an old lens going cheap but then again 75MB NEF's, ouch. EDIT: Oh the new specs have an AF motor included? Last edited by ElBeasto; 24th May 2012 at 10:34 AM.

24th May 2012, 12:15 PM	#23
iXeR0 Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Melbourne 3195 Posts: 1,351	If it's the same 39-point AF from the D7000 then no thanks, whatever the price. However, it should be quite nice for video for whoever is into that sort of thing.