Potential Bottleneck?

shanef · 11th May 2012, 6:58 PM

Hi all,

First time post here and i have some questions re my slow running pc, mainly in gaming.

Firstly current specs: (built it 5yrs ago, so it's 'aged' abit)
Intel E6700 @ 3700ghz (watercooled)
Asus 9800GTX+ (stock)
Asus P5G41T-M LX3
G Skill Sniper 1333mhz 8gb
Windows 7 64bit

Now the problem i'm having is that my previous motherboard died (Asus P5N32-E SLI) and i replaced it with the above board. When i did this, i had to change from DDR2 to DDR3 (DDR2 was G Skill 1066mhz 4gb). Pre board change i could run MW3 fairly well, also MW2 extremely well but since the change of MB & RAM i can't run either, frames are about 30fps average, which is unplayable

What are your thoughts on the problem? Motherboard bottleneck? Any suggestions on how to find the route of the problem?

Sven76 · 12th May 2012, 6:58 AM

Did you format and reinstall after the board change?

New chipset drivers?

shanef · 12th May 2012, 10:48 AM

Yes to both

Sven76 · 12th May 2012, 2:21 PM

Is it possible that after the format and reinstall you are now playing in a higher resolution than you were before?

shanef · 12th May 2012, 3:49 PM

No. I played around with the video settings in game, even on lowest it's still slow

Yawnie · 12th May 2012, 5:20 PM

are u sure the RAM is running at correct frequency and timings? Those combo boards take shortcuts sometimes

Sven76 · 12th May 2012, 5:20 PM

NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI vs Intel® G41 /ICH7

I am clutching at straws here and I hope some one will set me straight if I am wrong but I have a feeling I read reviews somewhere about the 2 different chipsets at the time they were current and the 2nd one (your current one) wasnt as good as your first one... Essentially I am guessing your 2 boards are not equals and this is the issue

Yawnie · 13th May 2012, 1:29 AM

I think sven could be on to something there, i got an asrock G41 board and that exact ASUS board and the enthusiast board is of course better

Sven76 · 13th May 2012, 7:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawnie

I think sven could be on to something there, i got an asrock G41 board and that exact ASUS board and the enthusiast board is of course better

If i give you her number can you ring my Missus and tell her i might have been right about something

....

I have googled my heart out but cant get the review im thinking about .... has anyone else noticed google has gone to shit for searching lately ?

shanef · 14th May 2012, 4:42 PM

I've got a feeling this board is rubbish...

According to CPU-Z the RAM timings are set incorrectly:

However when i go into the Bios (which i updated) and manually input the correct timings (9-9-9-24) on reboot the computer crashes and on the next boot it comes up with "Overclocking or overvoltage error". (Pic below shows settings after i Disable 'Configure DRAM Timing by SPD')

Other problem i've found, is that on Core Temp & HW Monitor, niehter show the CPU core temp's

Yawnie · 14th May 2012, 9:46 PM

Asus Asrock and Gigabyte all still manufacture basic socket 775 boards, but they are really only for non gaming pcs. The Gigabyte one is the only only one with solid capacitors if I remember, and they all cost around 50 bucks. If u can find any kind of enthusiast 775 board now expect to pay at least 100 new

C-BuZz · 14th May 2012, 9:54 PM

Why is the cpu showing up as P4 Preshott Nuclear Reactor? Did you put the right cpu back in when you upgraded mobo? (yes I've done this before)

shanef · 15th May 2012, 5:12 AM

Same CPU. I might re-seat it later today

shanef · 15th May 2012, 4:11 PM

Well i re-seated the cpu and ram sticks, same problem. I've dropped it off at the local PC shop for them to diagnose.

In the meantime i've been looking at the I7 combo's...

shanef · 17th May 2012, 4:58 PM

Well i found the problem. Turns out when i had the computer checked by a local pc shop for a faulty motherboard in fbruary, they decided they'd put an old P4 chip in instead of my E6700.

Worked out alright though, because i'm picking up a 2500k tomorrow to go with the Z68 board i bought today

Thanks for the help fellas!

11th May 2012, 6:58 PM	#1
shanef Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 10	Potential Bottleneck? Hi all, First time post here and i have some questions re my slow running pc, mainly in gaming. Firstly current specs: (built it 5yrs ago, so it's 'aged' abit) Intel E6700 @ 3700ghz (watercooled) Asus 9800GTX+ (stock) Asus P5G41T-M LX3 G Skill Sniper 1333mhz 8gb Windows 7 64bit Now the problem i'm having is that my previous motherboard died (Asus P5N32-E SLI) and i replaced it with the above board. When i did this, i had to change from DDR2 to DDR3 (DDR2 was G Skill 1066mhz 4gb). Pre board change i could run MW3 fairly well, also MW2 extremely well but since the change of MB & RAM i can't run either, frames are about 30fps average, which is unplayable What are your thoughts on the problem? Motherboard bottleneck? Any suggestions on how to find the route of the problem? Last edited by shanef; 14th May 2012 at 4:45 PM.

12th May 2012, 6:58 AM	#2
Sven76 Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bundaberg Posts: 1,249	Did you format and reinstall after the board change? New chipset drivers? __________________ Character is the measure of what a man does when no one is looking...

12th May 2012, 2:21 PM	#4
Sven76 Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bundaberg Posts: 1,249	Is it possible that after the format and reinstall you are now playing in a higher resolution than you were before? __________________ Character is the measure of what a man does when no one is looking...

12th May 2012, 5:20 PM	#6
Yawnie Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 584	are u sure the RAM is running at correct frequency and timings? Those combo boards take shortcuts sometimes __________________ OCAU HWBOT TEAM

12th May 2012, 5:20 PM	#7
Sven76 Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bundaberg Posts: 1,249	NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI vs Intel® G41 /ICH7 I am clutching at straws here and I hope some one will set me straight if I am wrong but I have a feeling I read reviews somewhere about the 2 different chipsets at the time they were current and the 2nd one (your current one) wasnt as good as your first one... Essentially I am guessing your 2 boards are not equals and this is the issue __________________ Character is the measure of what a man does when no one is looking...

12th May 2012, 10:48 AM	#3
shanef Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 10	Yes to both

12th May 2012, 3:49 PM	#5
shanef Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 10	No. I played around with the video settings in game, even on lowest it's still slow

13th May 2012, 1:29 AM	#8
Yawnie Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 584	I think sven could be on to something there, i got an asrock G41 board and that exact ASUS board and the enthusiast board is of course better __________________ OCAU HWBOT TEAM

14th May 2012, 4:42 PM	#10
shanef Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 10	I've got a feeling this board is rubbish... According to CPU-Z the RAM timings are set incorrectly: However when i go into the Bios (which i updated) and manually input the correct timings (9-9-9-24) on reboot the computer crashes and on the next boot it comes up with "Overclocking or overvoltage error". (Pic below shows settings after i Disable 'Configure DRAM Timing by SPD') Other problem i've found, is that on Core Temp & HW Monitor, niehter show the CPU core temp's

14th May 2012, 9:46 PM	#11
Yawnie Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 584	Asus Asrock and Gigabyte all still manufacture basic socket 775 boards, but they are really only for non gaming pcs. The Gigabyte one is the only only one with solid capacitors if I remember, and they all cost around 50 bucks. If u can find any kind of enthusiast 775 board now expect to pay at least 100 new __________________ OCAU HWBOT TEAM

14th May 2012, 9:54 PM	#12
C-BuZz Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melb, East Posts: 3,886	Why is the cpu showing up as P4 Preshott Nuclear Reactor? Did you put the right cpu back in when you upgraded mobo? (yes I've done this before)

15th May 2012, 5:12 AM	#13
shanef Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 10	Same CPU. I might re-seat it later today

15th May 2012, 4:11 PM	#14
shanef Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 10	Well i re-seated the cpu and ram sticks, same problem. I've dropped it off at the local PC shop for them to diagnose. In the meantime i've been looking at the I7 combo's...

17th May 2012, 4:58 PM	#15
shanef Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 10	Well i found the problem. Turns out when i had the computer checked by a local pc shop for a faulty motherboard in fbruary, they decided they'd put an old P4 chip in instead of my E6700. Worked out alright though, because i'm picking up a 2500k tomorrow to go with the Z68 board i bought today Thanks for the help fellas!