AMD's 2012 lines: Komodo, Trinity, and, Krishna/Wichita

[stmok]

Originally Posted by Asteroid

Nice. Any word of FM2 motherboards?

According to this...
=> http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2...in_August.html

2nd Quarter
* June => Brazos 2.0 (E1-1200 and E2-1800)

3rd Quarter
* August => A-series (Trinity) desktop version release.
* 2nd generation FX series (Vishera: FX-83xx, FX-63xx, FX-43xx).


...I estimate Socket FM2 mobos to come around July/August time-frame.


I like to see how the top-end A10-5800K (Trinity desktop) performs, as its not restricted by power consumption requirements like the mobile version is.

[Mensuri]

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/compu...otebook/667303

trinity already available in country !!!!

[loophole]

Originally Posted by Mensuri

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/compu...otebook/667303

trinity already available in country !!!!

That's impressive. It seems like we usually we have to wait a while before they're on our shores.

Hopefully this means AMD won't have any issues supplying enough chips!

[AEKaBeer]

I woudl have thought they'd at least try make a big deal about the graphics.

[mAJORD]

well, it is the very bottom end of the lineup (2c /1M, 192SP) so probably not worth making a dance about anyway..

the frequency is wrong on the JB link also, it's 2.7/3.2Ghz

with all that in mind it needs to come down in price to be attactive

[AEKaBeer]

Originally Posted by mAJORD

with all that in mind it needs to come down in price to be attactive

Especially with deals like THIS at the moment.

[figrin]

Originally Posted by Mensuri

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/compu...otebook/667303

trinity already available in country !!!!

I have this sitting on my desk atm. We bought it for my gf's work when it was on special last weekend for just $494. Already upgraded to a SSD and reinstall, unfortunately it's really really new, can't find generic drivers anywhere. Catalyst doesn't support trinity until next month or so and HP doesn't even have the wireless driver up for this (Atheros AR5B125)

But other than that, I'm happy with it. Installed a few games for a quick check and they do run well enough. It's good that a sub $500 laptop can do so much nowadays.

[AMD-G]

Originally Posted by figrin

I have this sitting on my desk atm. We bought it for my gf's work when it was on special last weekend for just $494. Already upgraded to a SSD and reinstall, unfortunately it's really really new, can't find generic drivers anywhere. Catalyst doesn't support trinity until next month or so and HP doesn't even have the wireless driver up for this (Atheros AR5B125)

But other than that, I'm happy with it. Installed a few games for a quick check and they do run well enough. It's good that a sub $500 laptop can do so much nowadays.

I have some Trinity notebook drivers if you need them.

[figrin]

Originally Posted by AMD-G

I have some Trinity notebook drivers if you need them.

Nah I'm fine, just using HP OEM drivers. I don't need the newest and greatest, just one that works.

It's just a shame that all hardware manufacturer (AMD is not the only one) should have the support network - like drivers, documentation etc. in place before pushing out a new product.

[Mensuri]

hopefully we'll have some more options at more realistic prices available by the time I get my tax back in July/Aug.

a decent value laptop capable of Civ V would be great

[stmok]

ECS shows production socket FM2 motherboard
=> http://www.tweaktown.com/news/24404/...ard/index.html

ECS Rolls Out First Socket FM2 Motherboard - A85F2-A Deluxe
=> http://vr-zone.com/articles/ecs-roll...uxe/16119.html

Uses the yet-to-be-announced AMD A85X chipset.
* Eight SATA 3.0 (6Gbps) connectors; 7 internal, 1 as ESATA.
* Six USB 3.0 ports; 4 at the back, 2 for front panel.
* Up to 32GB RAM on 4 memory slots; Up to DDR3-2600 MHz.
* Supports PCI-Express 2.0 only. (No capable PCI-Express 3.0 slots.)


According to a Gigabyte press release, they'll announce their Socket FM2 mobos at Computex 2012.
=> http://hexus.net/tech/items/mainboar...computex-2012/

Computex 2012 begins on June 5th to June 9th in Taipei, Taiwan...We'll probably see more announcements from other mobo makers.

[dirtyd]

Yet Charlie says desktop Trinity delayed until September:

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/06/01/a...y-one-quarter/

Time will tell I guess.

[Asteroid]

It appears to be more of the same. Very annoying that AMD changed sockets, anyone know of the technical reason for it?

[AEKaBeer]

FM2 was always slated and is needed for the power saving features.

LINK.

[stmok]

...So they must have changed the way voltage regulation, etc is implemented. (Intel is doing the same with their Haswell/LGA1150 desktop platform for 2013.)


The APU platform wasn't intended for the type of user/enthusiast that wants an upgrade path. Its really aimed for the budget-to-mainstream market and priced accordingly. This kind of user base rarely opens up their system to swap components out. They buy a PC and use it until it breaks or no longer meets their needs. (Which results it being thrown out, donated, or recycled.)

I see the current APU implementation as a one-off investment. Its not meant to be lasting as long as possible in terms of platform life-span. It seems AMD will treat it more like a test or guinea pig platform for each new generation of cores.

ie:

2012
2nd gen APU: Trinity => 1st revision Piledriver (32nm)
2nd gen CPU: Vishera => 2nd revision Piledriver (32nm)

2013
3rd gen APU: Kaveri => 1st revision Steamroller (28nm)
2nd gen CPU: Vishera => Continued use of 2nd revision Piledriver (32nm)

2014
4th gen APU => 1st revision Excavator (??nm)
3rd gen CPU => 2nd revision Steamroller (28nm)

I guess its their version of "tick-tock" release model, but its not based on die-shrink and new architecture releases like Intel has done. Its oriented towards APU and CPU platforms instead.