[WIN8] Windows 8 Thread

[Sankari]

Originally Posted by G-PhresH

With or without the keyboard?

Without of course. We're comparing tablets, not tablets + accessories.

[Loadingdread]

Reinstalled windows 8 on my main PC today and its randomly freezing all the time. Back to win 7 I go.

[Camm]

Originally Posted by Loadingdread

Reinstalled windows 8 on my main PC today and its randomly freezing all the time. Back to win 7 I go.

Don't have a xfi based sound card by any chance?

[Matt_NZ]

Originally Posted by Camm

Don't have a xfi based sound card by any chance?

I have a Creative Xi-Fi card and it's running fine. I installed the latest Beta driver off the Creative website and everything seems to be all good.

[Camm]

Originally Posted by Matt_NZ

I have a Creative Xi-Fi card and it's running fine. I installed the latest Beta driver off the Creative website and everything seems to be all good.

Lucky SOAB. My Auzentech Forte was causing freezing and bluescreening (only reason why I'm back to Windows 7)

[chainbolt]

Originally Posted by Loadingdread

Reinstalled windows 8 on my main PC today and its randomly freezing all the time. Back to win 7 I go.

Then you should check your hardware and update your drivers.

[OpenSystem]

Oh the pressure:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/...gallery2b.aspx

Watch from 13:35 to 13:45min and 14:10 to 14:25min

[PabloEscobar]

Getting back to Metro, now the the Surface Tab has it's own thread.

I'm still hoping someone can answer me one of the following problems.

What, specifically do you find "sucks" about it?

what task that you regularly perform on a Windows 7 computer that is made more difficult on Metro?

Sure, Metro looks and Feels a bit different from the traditional start menu, But the start menu looked and felt a bit different from windows 3.1...

Could it be that the people who are winging now, were younger and much more embracing of change back when win 95 came out, and are now part of the "Get off my lawn" generation?

[OpenSystem]

Originally Posted by PabloEscobar

Getting back to Metro, now the the Surface Tab has it's own thread.

I'm still hoping someone can answer me one of the following problems.

What, specifically do you find "sucks" about it?

what task that you regularly perform on a Windows 7 computer that is made more difficult on Metro?

Sure, Metro looks and Feels a bit different from the traditional start menu, But the start menu looked and felt a bit different from windows 3.1...

Could it be that the people who are winging now, were younger and much more embracing of change back when win 95 came out, and are now part of the "Get off my lawn" generation?

Why are people so hell bent on convincing others to like it?

For me, who OC's allot, restarting my PC needs to be quick, not waiting for some charm to display and then navigating further clicks combined with excessive mouse movements.

Sure I can make a batch shutdown command, but why do I have to?

The start menu is simply too much for my desktop usage.

BTW I installed Win 8 Release Preview on my x79 rig in sig, the driver support ended up killing the install.. I had no intention of removing Windows 8 RP on that machine no matter how much I dislike metro, however It did it itself by becoming completely unstable to the point I couldn't recover it.

So back to Win 7.

I'll give it another try down the track just to stay on top of the game if you will.

[chainbolt]

Originally Posted by PabloEscobar

Could it be that the people who are winging now, were younger and much more embracing of change back when win 95 came out, and are now part of the "Get off my lawn" generation?

I see it this way.

Also: In one review they wrote, referring to the bemoaning of a certain user group: "Nerds have no need for Metro". True, but MS does not design a consumer OS for nerds.

[OpenSystem]

Originally Posted by chainbolt

I see it this way.

Also: In one review they wrote, referring to the bemoaning of a certain user group: "Nerds have no need for Metro". True, but MS does not design a consumer OS for nerds.

So they design it to gain a share of apples already generated consumer market?

[power]

Originally Posted by OpenSystem

Why are people so hell bent on convincing others to like it?

I could not agree more with this statement, Metro feels like a computer for kiddies, I personally have tons of data onscreen at once - so much that I feel restricted with 2 screens.

Metro makes and app take center stage at the expense of everything else, I mean when a Metro App is open you don' t even have a taskbar or system tray - things that give you constant info.

There is no way i'm a get off my lawn type, I try and run every version of Windows at some stage - I used 95/98/98SE/ME (and it ran great for me)/2K/XP/XP MCE2005/Vista (loved it) and now 7. 8 just hasn't showed me it has evolved yet. All I see is this big gumby interface that belongs on a tablet

Oh and I wasa huge fan of Windows CE as well having a Sharp pocket PC, an iPAQ with 2003, an O2 Atom Exec with 2005 and a Samsung with 6.1 then 6.5.

I really do get amongst it but my impression right now is a step backwards much like the original versions of Windows Mobile 7 (no cut and paste and tethering lost me at that point).

[PabloEscobar]

I'm not trying ton convince anyone, I'm just trying to get a feel for why people don't like it. At some stage we will be asked to make a case for rollout to the company, And my computer usage habits may not reflect anyone elses. So another point of view is great to have. But just "Metro Sucks" with no details is a pretty pointless post.

RE - Clicks to Shutdown

Win 8 - 3 (Top Right Hotspot, Settings, Power, Shutdown)
Win 7 - 2 (Start Menu, Shutdown)

Now, for me, this is not gamebreaking. I rarely shut my PC down, and prefer to just let power saving do its thing.

After doing this (because I wasn't sure how many "Are you sure" options each OS gave (none!)), I've noticed that Win 8 Boots up WAAY Quicker to usable desktop than Win 7. My Win7 Desktop (on SSD) takes longer to boot to use, than my Win 8 Laptop (no ssd, lower powered processor, less ram)

[OpenSystem]

Originally Posted by PabloEscobar

I'm not trying ton convince anyone, I'm just trying to get a feel for why people don't like it. At some stage we will be asked to make a case for rollout to the company, And my computer usage habits may not reflect anyone elses. So another point of view is great to have. But just "Metro Sucks" with no details is a pretty pointless post.

RE - Clicks to Shutdown

Win 8 - 3 (Top Right Hotspot, Settings, Power, Shutdown)
Win 7 - 2 (Start Menu, Shutdown)

Now, for me, this is not gamebreaking. I rarely shut my PC down, and prefer to just let power saving do its thing.

After doing this (because I wasn't sure how many "Are you sure" options each OS gave (none!)), I've noticed that Win 8 Boots up WAAY Quicker to usable desktop than Win 7. My Win7 Desktop (on SSD) takes longer to boot to use, than my Win 8 Laptop (no ssd, lower powered processor, less ram)

Yeah but we can have those awesome speed features without Metro.

Metro is a UI patched onto a progression of Win 7's kernel?

Quick restart/shutdown is essential for me as an OC'er, but I'm a very small % of their market.

The excessive mouse movements contribute to my frustration regarding placing power options within the charm.

The UI has a touch focus, my desktop doesn't have a touch screen, nor do I want one for my desktop's intended purpose (Games + OC hardware).

[PabloEscobar]

Originally Posted by OpenSystem

Yeah but we can have those awesome speed features without Metro.

Metro is a UI patched onto a progression of Win 7's kernel?

Fresh install of both Operating systems. Win 8 boots from cold to usable quicker than Win 7.

I'm not sure Win8 is just "Metro bolted onto Win 7", But TBH, I've not done much research into it.

Quick restart/shutdown is essential for me as an OC'er, but I'm a very small % of their market.

The excessive mouse movements contribute to my frustration regarding placing power options within the charm.

The UI has a touch focus, my desktop doesn't have a touch screen, nor do I want one for my desktop's intended purpose (Games + OC hardware)

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If quick restart is important to you, then I'd imagine on both machines, you have a shutdown.bat. If you can't be bothered doing that, then I have a hard time believing its THAT important for you.

The UI does have a touch focus, but after using it for a bit, my mouse doesn't move substantially further than it would doing the same tasks on Win 7.

In fact, because I can type anywhere in the Start screen, my mouse moves less (because I don't need to click in the Start Menu text box).