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Old 23rd June 2012, 5:42 PM   #331
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Apple do know better, the market wants thinner and lighter laptops and they delivered
You must pick one. What's your preference;



Top one has twice the battery life.

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Its always amazed me how people go out of their way to target Apples products / releases and bitch about things that wont change purely because its Apple and they feel they have to. Any other brand would go unnoticed lol.
Not a criticism on apple. Actually, apple devices are generally the most power efficient due to their excellent engineering/software design and that's why I'd most like to see this done on an apple device because the battery life would be more spectacular than on other platforms (as is already proven by the popularity of apple laptops with students, who pick them for their battery life compared to pc's).

Battery life is one of the primary buying points of mobile devices and one of the most common sources of complaint.
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Old 23rd June 2012, 5:59 PM   #332
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Top one has twice the battery life.


Not a criticism on apple. Actually, apple devices are generally the most power efficient due to their excellent engineering/software design and that's why I'd most like to see this done on an apple device because the battery life would be more spectacular than on other platforms (as is already proven by the popularity of apple laptops with students, who pick them for their battery life compared to pc's).
That comparison shot is not even worth posting, you are talking about a low consumption device running on 3.7v and single cell.

Its a whole different ball game with a high consumption devices in regards to battery resistance with high current draw, beefing up charging systems, redesign the entire layout of the device for the extra cells etc and rearrange them in ways to suit the requirements of the unit and manage the thermal requirements of the cells.

It is a very narrow minded post to simply say oh look this phone has twice the battery life and look how much thicker it is, they are completely different devices.
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Old 23rd June 2012, 6:05 PM   #333
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Its a whole different ball game with a high consumption devices in regards to battery resistance with high current draw, beefing up charging systems, redesign the entire layout of the device for the extra cells etc and rearrange them in ways to suit the requirements of the unit and manage the thermal requirements of the cells.
I can't show you a comparison shot when one does not exist, I would think you had the intelligence to see that. This is the best I can provide in laptops:

Both 7 hours endurance. One much lighter and thinner. Same price, yet people still buy both;


http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...hould-you-buy/

Imagine a machine somewhere between the air and that mbp in thickness/weight but with 15-20 hours of battery life. Would you buy it? And hell, it could have the retina display too.

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That comparison shot is not even worth posting, you are talking about a low consumption device running on 3.7v and single cell.
It is a very narrow minded post to simply say oh look this phone has twice the battery life and look how much thicker it is, they are completely different devices.
Is that a tacit admission that you would pick the thicker mobile phone? The fact is that comparison is WELL WORTH posting. It completely discredits your assertions that its not worth doing and that manufacturers are getting it right.

Unfair to compare mobiles when talking about laptops? Not at all - my point is not merely about the MBP. It is about a direction in tech chassis design. Mobile phones are a great example, considering that almost none today meet the needs their users readily express for battery life, that it would be fairly simple to increase battery capacity and yet that only one mobile and manufacturer have done so.

It makes absolutely plain that you are wrong to say high endurance devices would come with crippling weight/thickness increases or would not be desired by the market.
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Old 25th June 2012, 12:44 PM   #334
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6023/t...7gsVAKgpazk.16

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The display pipeline of the GPUs Apple wanted to use didn't officially support scaling to the resolution Apple demanded of them. Let me explain. Rather than wait for updated hardware and/or validation, Apple took matters into its own hands and built its own GPU accelerated scaling routines.

What’s even crazier is Apple wasn’t pleased with the difference in baseline filtering quality between the Intel HD 4000 and NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M GPUs. As the Retina Display MacBook Pro would have to regularly switch between GPUs, Apple wanted to ensure a consistently good experience regardless of which GPU was active. There are a lot of filtering operations at work when doing all of this resolution scaling, so rather than compromise user experience Apple simply wrote its own default filtering routines. Apple’s obsessive attention to detail really made it possible to pull all of this off. It’s just insane to think about.
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Old 25th June 2012, 10:41 PM   #335
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15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display
Ships: 3-5 weeks
Delivers within 1-3 bus. days (after shipment) by Standard Shipping

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S$ 3,305.99 ($2500 AUD aprox)

So expensive ><

Got to wait forEVER to get it now too.
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Old 25th June 2012, 10:47 PM   #336
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S$ 3,305.99 ($2500 AUD aprox)

So expensive ><
That's Apple for you!

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Old 25th June 2012, 11:29 PM   #337
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15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display
Ships: 3-5 weeks
Delivers within 1-3 bus. days (after shipment) by Standard Shipping

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2.3GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz
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S$ 3,305.99 ($2500 AUD aprox)

So expensive ><

Got to wait forEVER to get it now too.
Haha spun out just placed that exact order except with 8gb ram $2534 total. Now the waiting game. I'm planning to claim half of it on tax anyway
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Old 26th June 2012, 4:12 PM   #338
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I just ordered a base model with ram upgrade today. I'd love to hear when you get your laptop delivered!
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Old 26th June 2012, 4:45 PM   #339
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I just ordered a base model with ram upgrade today. I'd love to hear when you get your laptop delivered!
I ordered mine on 12 June and it said 2-3 weeks, I haven't had a shipping notification yet so I guess it's 3 weeks but that's the shipping date so expect another week after that for arrival of 3-9 July advised.

I read somewhere they are up to 5 weeks delay now.

I guess by the time it arrives Adobe might be close to an update of photoshop.
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Yeah I ordered yesterday and it said 3-4 weeks. I'm in no rush, I just needed an invoice so I can claim most of it back
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Yeah I ordered yesterday and it said 3-4 weeks. I'm in no rush, I just needed an invoice so I can claim most of it back
Not sure who you are claiming it back from but Apple don't invoice until they ship, the doc they send when you order is only an order confirmation. If you are claiming for tax purposes that document is insufficient. You can only claim a deduction for tax in the financial year you commence using it.
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Old 26th June 2012, 6:57 PM   #342
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Just got notification from Apple that they shipped my laptop, I expect I will have it Friday.

I ordered the base model but with 16GB

Edit: scrap that, looks like shipping is international, so will be next week.
Edit2: based on tracking advice, laptop has checked into Pudong airport first class lounge, damn things probably in the bar, hope it doesn't miss it's flight. Flying first class I bet it has the lobster!!

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Just got notification from Apple that they shipped my laptop, I expect I will have it Friday.

I ordered the base model but with 16GB

Edit: scrap that, looks like shipping is international, so will be next week.
Edit2: based on tracking advice, laptop has checked into Pudong airport first class lounge, damn things probably in the bar, hope it doesn't miss it's flight. Flying first class I bet it has the lobster!!
So exactly two weeks from order to shipping? Not bad, hope mine is as quick
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So exactly two weeks from order to shipping? Not bad, hope mine is as quick
When I first looked to buy it was 2-5 days, I waited until business hours in Melbourne to call around if I could just pick one up in Melbourne, it was 5-7 days at that stage, when I ordered at lunch time it was 2-3 weeks. So sold out very quickly.

Tracking says my MBP made it out the bar and onto the plane.
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Not sure who you are claiming it back from but Apple don't invoice until they ship, the doc they send when you order is only an order confirmation. If you are claiming for tax purposes that document is insufficient. You can only claim a deduction for tax in the financial year you commence using it.
Nah seems all good, our accountant says all he needs is a receipt or proof that I made the purhase. I have an order confirmation showing I paid in full along with a matching bank statement so should be sweet to claim this year
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