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Old 2nd July 2012, 1:55 PM   #1
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Hi guys,

A strange one here,

We have a server (Not our own) that has 3.5" sas drives, and will not power on.

We only have machines with 2.5" drives, and are not to keen to break an array. The issue will be, if we cannot revive this HP machine, we need to recover the data from the Disks (Mirror)

Is there a USB --> sas adapter arround? Or perhaps a SAS--> SATA adapter (Chuck it in my desktop)

Thanks. (I have also searched the forums, with no luck)

EDIT: and before "Sohuld have had backup plan e.t.c." we do, but this is a new customer, and we have been brought in because it failed so miserably.
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is the controller in the server host or a separate controller?

Don't assume it's separate if it has it's own card, check it out thoroughly.
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is the controller in the server host or a separate controller?

Don't assume it's separate if it has it's own card, check it out thoroughly.
Sorry i should have mentioned - there is no additional card, the backplane is connected to the mainboard (Or i would have uinstalled this in another machine)
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so it's hostraid?

Do you have another server that has the same onboard raid?

that might be a quick way to bring the array up so you can recover the data, just switch raid on and it should pick up the array.
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so it's hostraid?

Do you have another server that has the same onboard raid?

that might be a quick way to bring the array up so you can recover the data, just switch raid on and it should pick up the array.
The problem is we dont have anything that we can drop these drives into, we have alot of 2.5" drives in servers, but nothing that accepts 3.5" SAS

I may just pivkup a cheap PCI-E controller and chuck it in my dektop, and gain access that way.

Thanks for the ides though.
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shame you don't just have some cables, by the sounds of it you have hot swap bays only.

no pedestals?
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shame you don't just have some cables, by the sounds of it you have hot swap bays only.

no pedestals?
No, we never planned to work on other systems, we have a spare machine to access our drives - sorry i should mention they are all in caddies.

The customer is actually an emergency - theu had issues with their previous company, and do work with us, and asked for our help as they werent happy with the help they were getting. We usually only support systems we installed, and only for the purpose of our own software/loyalty system, but they know we maintain a large network of our own, and asked for some help.
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What model server is it?

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What model server is it?

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HP ML Something - i dont have the machine on hand, it is on site still.

It does however look like the following:
http://www.superwarehouse.com/HP_Pro...-005/p/1561449

I believe it is an ML350, but older G series. as it looks like the new one they ordered (Which is an ML350 - and not an option there, the new one takes 2.5" drives only also) that is where i gathered it is an ML-XXX
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If it has 2.5inch drives it will be either a G5 or a G6

Tho if you say motherboard connectors I am more leaning to the G5

In either case you can do the following.

Unplug drive cage from motherboard controller (both cables)

If it's a G5, grab a SFF-8484 TO SFF 8482 WITH INTEGRATED POWER CONNECTORS breakout cable
http://product.madeinchina.com/whole...11323376.shtml
Pop it on Port 1 on the motherboard, connect to drive and attach molex power.

Fire it up and the onboard smart array (e200i for G5) should detect the array that was on it and let you get the data off.

If it's a G6, it will have a P410i controller... which will be the same procudure, just needing a different cable SFF-8087 TO SFF 8482 WITH INTEGRATED POWER CONNECTORS
http://www.scsi4me.com/lsi-07-00021-...pin-power.html

... and find the array etc.

Once you have your data off... reconnect existing motherboard (G5 = e200i) or(G6 = P410i) cables to the drive cage, and it should redetect the existing array config and you will be back up and going.

Depending on where you are, and if someone can loan you the apporopriate cable.

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If it has 2.5inch drives it will be either a G5 or a G6

Tho if you say motherboard connectors I am more leaning to the G5

In either case you can do the following.

Unplug drive cage from motherboard controller (both cables)

If it's a G5, grab a SFF-8484 TO SFF 8482 WITH INTEGRATED POWER CONNECTORS breakout cable
http://product.madeinchina.com/whole...11323376.shtml
Pop it on Port 1 on the motherboard, connect to drive and attach molex power.

Fire it up and the onboard smart array (e200i for G5) should detect the array that was on it and let you get the data off.

If it's a G6, it will have a P410i controller... which will be the same procudure, just needing a different cable SFF-8087 TO SFF 8482 WITH INTEGRATED POWER CONNECTORS
http://www.scsi4me.com/lsi-07-00021-...pin-power.html

... and find the array etc.

Once you have your data off... reconnect existing motherboard (G5 = e200i) or(G6 = P410i) cables to the drive cage, and it should redetect the existing array config and you will be back up and going.

Depending on where you are, and if someone can loan you the apporopriate cable.

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I found the cable at Allneeds (Staticice.com.au helped) thanks for that Stanza - it looks the best way to go.
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Looks like you're in adelaide... I have a P600 (PCI-X) if you need something to borrow to pull the data off.
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