AMD's 2012 lines: Komodo, Trinity, and, Krishna/Wichita

[mAJORD]

yeah doesn't sound right

and the 4170 is already 4.2/4.3Ghz, so.. 4320 sounds wrong also.

oops, we're talking about vishera.

Vishera replaces Zambezi , bloody fudzilla

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Originally Posted by itsmydamnation

so yuo can hit 4ghz on 8 cores but only 4.2 on one....... yeah not likely......

Why doesn't it seem likely?

Silicon doesn't scale linearly, after all.

[itsmydamnation]

Originally Posted by NNNG

Why doesn't it seem likely?

Silicon doesn't scale linearly, after all.

think about it.

a 800% power increase for a 5% clock increase.


edit: yes i realize that there is an uncore that takes power as well.

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Originally Posted by itsmydamnation

think about it.

a 800% power increase for a 5% clock increase.


edit: yes i realize that there is an uncore that takes power as well.

Maybe it has to do with power density. Or too much boost would require too much voltage and hurt the life of the CPU.

[itsmydamnation]

that doesn't make sense either these things tend to be on a curve what your describing is a wall. 4.2 could be all core turbo that would make more sense but unless they have reduce the power consumption of the FPU's by a lot i would still expect it to be bigger.

[remoteman213]

http://wccftech.com/amd-piledriver-f...ons-confirmed/

[itsmydamnation]

FTW did i just read.............

[dirtyd]

Originally Posted by itsmydamnation

FTW did i just read.............

AMD FX-8350 8 Core Processor (HD7000 Graphics)

Vishera now has a GPU apparently

The A8-5600 would be a Quad Core with two threads

AMD are exploiting the latest in Binary Unifying Latency Locked Symmetric Heterogenous Inactive-core Technology

[loophole]

Just saw this over at PCPer:
AMD, Vishera, and Beyond: New Design Philosophy Dictates a Faster Pace

Nothing really new, but a nice roundup none-the-less. It also points out what a lot of publications have missed but we've known for a while, that the Piledriver in Vishera won't be the same PD in Trinity, but will be further tweaked - basically that APUs get a first-pass next-gen module architecture that is further refined to end up in the server/high-end desktop market.

[Phido]

Its not going to have a GPU.

• Am3+
• Faster clocks than 8150 (only a few % tho)
• 10% faster per clock than Dozer
• Better power consumption
• Tweaked design to address some of the areas that Dozer struggled to compete with Phenom II.

Then that is it for AM3+.

I think it will be okay, but not really a big leap on Phenom II x6 in multithreaded stuff (it doesn't have to be, Phenom II X6 1100t is almost as fast as a 3770 at many multi threaded stuff), but will be quiet a bit faster and competitive with games. But people won't leave Ivy bridge or Sandy bridge for it.

[Digit]

Originally Posted by Phido

Its not going to have a GPU.

• Am3+
• Faster clocks than 8150 (only a few % tho)
• 10% faster per clock than Dozer
• Better power consumption
• Tweaked design to address some of the areas that Dozer struggled to compete with Phenom II.

Then that is it for AM3+.

I think it will be okay, but not really a big leap on Phenom II x6 in multithreaded stuff (it doesn't have to be, Phenom II X6 1100t is almost as fast as a 3770 at many multi threaded stuff), but will be quiet a bit faster and competitive with games. But people won't leave Ivy bridge or Sandy bridge for it.

Got benchies to support that? I have an insane Intel fanboy for a friend, so when he comes at me with AMD is shit again, would love to throw that back at him lol

[vid_ghost]

AMD can polish a turd as long as they want but it will still be a turd!

I still think they should have stuck with the old Phenom II X6 CPU. or at least start again with a new design.

Pile driver is yet another Pentium 4 pile of poo that requires a super high core clock to even compete with the previous product from the SAME company, the AMD Phenom II X6

An AMD Phenom II X6 would have been awesome on 32/28nm, i would be running one in my pc right now even though a i7 2600 would have been a little faster

[bobbth]

Originally Posted by vid_ghost

AMD can polish a turd as long as they want but it will still be a turd!

I still think they should have stuck with the old Phenom II X6 CPU. or at least start again with a new design.

Pile driver is yet another Pentium 4 pile of poo that requires a super high core clock to even compete with the previous product from the SAME company, the AMD Phenom II X6

An AMD Phenom II X6 would have been awesome on 32/28nm, i would be running one in my pc right now even though a i7 2600 would have been a little faster

The problem with the Phenom (k10) architecture is that more cores do not scale well with power consumption, AMD took a bet on future computing favouring highly threaded workloads. Stars (Llano) was horrible on 32nm and had many, many issues so it's clear that there wasn't much of a future in K10.5 anyway.

With Vishera we are seeing what Bulldozer was meant to be in it's infancy, I don't think we'll see the bulldozer architecture shine until the 2013/2014 APU's where the highly modular design should allow greater resource sharing which will hopefully bring GPGPU functions to everyday computing applications.

Bulldozer wasn't meant to compete on a shear performance basis, AMD shouldn't be trying to take intel on in a head-to-head performance basis (it has been slowly choking them), they should be using their strengths to their advantage.

So far we have seen them using their superior FPU in bulldozer (which turned into a not-so-superior FPU) and their superior GPU in Llano/Trinity.

[Apokalipse]

Originally Posted by vid_ghost

AMD can polish a turd as long as they want but it will still be a turd!

I still think they should have stuck with the old Phenom II X6 CPU. or at least start again with a new design.

Pile driver is yet another Pentium 4 pile of poo that requires a super high core clock to even compete with the previous product from the SAME company, the AMD Phenom II X6

An AMD Phenom II X6 would have been awesome on 32/28nm, i would be running one in my pc right now even though a i7 2600 would have been a little faster

The problem with BD isn't the overall concept. It's the implementation.
Phenom I wasn't exactly a raging success either.

[vid_ghost]

Originally Posted by Apokalipse

The problem with BD isn't the overall concept. It's the implementation.
Phenom I wasn't exactly a raging success either.

As a GAMING CPU Phenom x6 was and still is better then bulldozer.

When AMD can beat Phenom by 50% in gaming then I'll go back to them for my next PC but i just dont see that happening and it a shame because i can still remember how awesome that Athlon 700Mhz was back in the day when i upgrade from a Celeron 333Mhz.

At least i can still buy AMD videocards that perform faster then the previous product from the SAME company