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Old 17th April 2012, 1:04 PM   #31
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Thubans report between 8-18 degrees lower than actual temperature, many of us add ~13 degrees when looking at the temperatures when overclocking.
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Old 17th April 2012, 6:28 PM   #32
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Thubans report between 8-18 degrees lower than actual temperature, many of us add ~13 degrees when looking at the temperatures when overclocking.
What temperature is supposed to 8-18 degrees lower than reality? What temp do you add 13 degrees to when overclocking? Are you repeating an urban myth?
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Old 17th April 2012, 6:41 PM   #33
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Temperature bug? What temperature bug, i am yet to come across this bug in thubans.
I have on my old 1090T and my 1045T in my second system.
You know the bug exists when the CPU is reporting lower temperatures than ambient on air.
Happened on my old Asrock 890GX Extreme3 and my Gigabyte 990FX UD5 with the 1090T and the Asrock 780GMH DDR2 board and the 1045T.

It's not that big of an issue really, The Phenom 2 x6 series still kicked ass and chewed bubblegum.
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Old 18th April 2012, 1:08 AM   #34
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What temperature is supposed to 8-18 degrees lower than reality? What temp do you add 13 degrees to when overclocking? Are you repeating an urban myth?
core temp reports lower than actual core temp, it's a well known bug feel free to look it up.
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Old 18th April 2012, 7:42 AM   #35
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happens with the thubans and my bulldozer though to a lesser extent.
i just adjust it to what the bios said and all is good (touch bios is useful for something )
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Old 10th May 2012, 6:46 PM   #36
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I have on my old 1090T and my 1045T in my second system.
You know the bug exists when the CPU is reporting lower temperatures than ambient on air.
Happened on my old Asrock 890GX Extreme3 and my Gigabyte 990FX UD5 with the 1090T and the Asrock 780GMH DDR2 board and the 1045T.

It's not that big of an issue really, The Phenom 2 x6 series still kicked ass and chewed bubblegum.
I had that type of thing with an X2 3800 AM2 years ago on an aBit board. A BIOS update cured that.
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Old 13th June 2012, 4:26 AM   #37
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Related to AMD's 2013 APU line...

PlayStation 4 'Orbis' rumoured to feature next-gen AMD Fusion APU
=> http://hexus.net/gaming/news/hardwar...md-fusion-apu/
=> http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain...pugpu-2gb-ram/
=> http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2012/...cations_leaked
=> http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/201...tiple-sources/

Rumour has it...
* AMD Fusion APU (Codenamed "Liverpool")
* Made on 28nm process.
* AMD x86 quad-core (2 modules) at 3.2GHz...Steamroller cores.
* AMD r10xx at 800 MHz (Codename "Tahiti" or Radeon HD 79xx class architecture.)
* 2GB unified memory (Software devs want Sony to up it to 4GB.)
* Blu-ray
* HDMI 1.4 (1080p output)
* HDD: greater than 320GB
* 16GB Flash Memory (Reserved for patches and operating system.)

Of course, it is a rumour. So take it with a truckload of salt!


I suspect the APU will be made at GlobalFoundries's Fab 8 in New York. That is said to begin 28nm production in mid-2012 in order to make the goal of "early-2013" product releases. (High volume production also begins at about the same time).
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Old 13th June 2012, 1:31 PM   #38
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Cue the old Wii argument:

Oh come on, 1080p? Get with the times. By now it should be 1440p at the very least, and preferably 1600p. I'll buy an XBox instead, not paying for outdated technology.
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Old 13th June 2012, 3:59 PM   #39
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Cue the old Wii argument:

Oh come on, 1080p? Get with the times. By now it should be 1440p at the very least, and preferably 1600p. I'll buy an XBox instead, not paying for outdated technology.
The Xbox that'll be around for at least two more years?
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Old 13th June 2012, 5:00 PM   #40
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core temp reports lower than actual core temp, it's a well known bug feel free to look it up.
All 4 of my cores are at absolute zero, on an air cooler. Beat that.
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Old 17th June 2012, 2:15 AM   #41
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AMD details new mobile, server roadmap
=> http://www.tweaktown.com/news/24577/...aps/index.html

Looking at the Server roadmap, it looks like the AM3+ successor will be an APU on the 28nm process.

Remember, this is the Server market. The Enthusiast market won't see a successor until 2014. (AM3+ is still present on 2013 desktop roadmap for Enthusiast end.)

So I guess () AMD wants to eventually unify all its consumer and low-end server markets into APU architectures, while leaving the top-end server market for CPU architectures...

* Jaguar APUs => Tablets, Budget computing, Small Form-Factor, Ultra-thin notebook, etc. (2 to 4 cores)
* Steamroller APUs => Game console (PS4?), Mainstream and Enthusiast notebook/desktop. (2 to 8 cores)
* Steamroller CPUs => Top-end server processor; greater than 8 cores.


...I think that's the general direction of where AMD is going for 2013/2014 period. Tighter integration of GPU/CPU technologies with co-processors handling specialised roles (like ARM's Cortex A5 for security-related roles.)
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Old 6th July 2012, 3:13 PM   #42
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Seems all AMD have these days are rumours.

Not that my fx8120 needs replacing soon
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Old 6th July 2012, 6:45 PM   #43
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Seems all AMD have these days are rumours.

Not that my fx8120 needs replacing soon
Good luck to you (no sarcasm). Sometimes you get lucky and get a "Golden" CPU.

I am still happy with my X6-1100. Should I upgrade to pile driver, I know the 1100 will still soldier on in another machine and transcode video to save space server space.
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Old 17th July 2012, 9:59 PM   #44
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So I guess () AMD wants to eventually unify all its consumer and low-end server markets into APU architectures, while leaving the top-end server market for CPU architectures...

* Jaguar APUs => Tablets, Budget computing, Small Form-Factor, Ultra-thin notebook, etc. (2 to 4 cores)
* Steamroller APUs => Game console (PS4?), Mainstream and Enthusiast notebook/desktop. (2 to 8 cores)
* Steamroller CPUs => Top-end server processor; greater than 8 cores.
None of this is really 'new' information, just more confirmation of stmok's post

there is some minimal info on their successor to the impressively successful bobcat APU, so far all we know is that jaguar will be on a 28nm process and that it will be targeted at tablets (I assume that this also will cover HTPC's, netbooks, and ultra-small-form-factor pc's), more here

As jaguar is to be on 28nm I assume that we wont see it till ~2013/2014

More is expected to be reviled at the up-coming 'Hot Chips' event on the 28th of august
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Too late for 2013 lines but future-related news nonetheless:

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/08/01/a...s-back-to-amd/

Pretty impressive CV!
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