Strange startup problem. - Page 2

TRG.dOinK · 10th July 2012, 6:56 PM

Have you tried pressing the "tab" button on the keyboard during boot up, that will alternate between the writing/text and the logo motherboard screen.

Also, in the Bios, have you enabled some quick bootup option?

Thirdly, have you tried removing and re-installing the video card, or perhaps remove the video card, try onboard video (if possible) to see if you get the logo screen, then you can try eliminate some stuff.

Also, try a Bios Reset... pull the battery

Try another DVI/HDMI port? Another monitor?

Web Address · 10th July 2012, 8:29 PM

I took my Graphics card out and uninstalled my graphics card drivers, I also reset the CMOS battery, and without the Graphics card in it booted up fine, motherboard picture and all. Just, I can't install my graphics card driver without my graphics card being plugged in, and when it's plugged in I can't see the display because of the missing Graphics driver. What do I do?

mareke · 10th July 2012, 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Web Address

I took my Graphics card out and uninstalled my graphics card drivers, I also reset the CMOS battery, and without the Graphics card in it booted up fine, motherboard picture and all. Just, I can't install my graphics card driver without my graphics card being plugged in, and when it's plugged in I can't see the display because of the missing Graphics driver. What do I do?

You should get a picture without the driver. Install the graphics card and bring up the BIOS and check the settings and then boot the computer. Windows will use a low resolution until you install the driver for the card.

power · 10th July 2012, 8:52 PM

You can also hit F8 and load VGA mode from the F8 menu.

My gut is still going with faulty card, hope it's not for the OP's sake.

Web Address · 10th July 2012, 9:43 PM

Connected my tower to my tv via a HDMI cable and I put my graphics card into another PCI-E slot and it loaded up fine, saw the motherboard image and everything. Installed the drivers. Moved the graphics card back to the optimum PCI-E slot and then booted up, saw the motherboard image too. I'm thinking that maybe my compouter screen isn't on by the time my computer finishes showing the motherboard image. While I had my tower plugged into my tv a second ago I saw the motherboard image for a brief second. When I plugged back into my monitor I also saw it very, very briefly. I restarted while connected to my monitor and didn't see it.

I can still hit F2 when I see the LED's on my keyboard light up and go to the BIOS absolutely fine, I ran Skyrim earlier and it didn't crash at all. So hopefully i'm right in assuming that my pc is just too fast for my monitor to turn on in time and see the motherboard image. Or, I may be wrong.

I'll give Skyrim another run after I have a shower and see how it goes again, should be a good hour of play.

Web Address · 10th July 2012, 10:57 PM

Well, Skyrim ran beautifully, no crashing

Web Address · 12th July 2012, 7:39 AM

I take everything back. Yesterday Skyrim crashed a heap! Every few minutes, 'Your display driver stopped responding and has recovered...ect'. Battlefield 3 also crashed after about 20mins of play telling me that my graphics card had run out of memory.
I just booted my machine up and all I saw was those vertical coloured lines until the desktop appeared, didn't even see the 'Starting Windows' screen. I'm able to use Chrome to type this though absolutely fine.
Does this still sound like a faulty video card?

mareke · 12th July 2012, 8:08 AM

Either playing those games pushes the card beyond its limits or it's faulty. The vertical lines on reboot suggest it's faulty-perhaps it gets too hot while you play the game and is still too hot on rebooting. Try checking the graphics card settings in Windows to see if there are any you can alter to reduce stress on the card. Does it have reasonable air flow around it? Remove the side of the case and see if it still happens. Heat more than anything kills graphics cards. The problem with making a warranty claim is that the fault needs to be replicable otherwise they may say it's not faulty.

Web Address · 12th July 2012, 8:19 AM

I have a GeForce GTX 670 2GB, I'm positive it can handle those games. I booted it up this morning and saw the lines, so it would have cooled down overnight. I'll try with the side off after school. There should be sufficient air flow anyway, there are 3 case fans, 3 smaller fans on the graphics card, and one cpu fan.

mareke · 12th July 2012, 8:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Web Address

I have a GeForce GTX 670 2GB, I'm positive it can handle those games. I booted it up this morning and saw the lines, so it would have cooled down overnight. I'll try with the side off after school. There should be sufficient air flow anyway, there are 3 case fans, 3 smaller fans on the graphics card, and one cpu fan.

In that case return it under warranty.

TRG.dOinK · 1st August 2012, 8:22 PM

Ah I just figured out a dying HDD can also make your boot times really slow.

I have an SSD and usually it boots maybe 1-2 seconds after the Windows boot screen, and each additional normal hdd adds 1-3 seconds, but one of my drives was making the SSD take 45-60 seconds to load.

I formatted Windows, but it was the same, so I unplugged all HDDs bar the SSD, and plugged them back in one by one, and found that one of my HDDs would make it slow.

Ran WD's software and it fails the quick test.

Just a heads up for those who might have a SSD and suffer slow boot up times to check the health of your other HDDs before formatting.

Brianf1971 · 3rd August 2012, 3:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Web Address

I have a GeForce GTX 670 2GB, I'm positive it can handle those games. I booted it up this morning and saw the lines, so it would have cooled down overnight. I'll try with the side off after school. There should be sufficient air flow anyway, there are 3 case fans, 3 smaller fans on the graphics card, and one cpu fan.

Are you overclocking the card?, if so set it to default and try it, also run MSI afterburner before loading the game when it crashes out check the GPU temps, you may have bad TIM contact on the IHS and it's overheating, if so then it's a warranty job.

10th July 2012, 6:56 PM	#16
TRG.dOinK Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Melb East Posts: 2,814	Have you tried pressing the "tab" button on the keyboard during boot up, that will alternate between the writing/text and the logo motherboard screen. Also, in the Bios, have you enabled some quick bootup option? Thirdly, have you tried removing and re-installing the video card, or perhaps remove the video card, try onboard video (if possible) to see if you get the logo screen, then you can try eliminate some stuff. Also, try a Bios Reset... pull the battery Try another DVI/HDMI port? Another monitor? __________________ ... /\ . _\ /_ Mitsubishi \| Successful Trades: Suicidal, Nerotic, Chiefgc, Mr Chilled, Kooliez, Vortexkrow, Grandarcmaster, AT-AT ./_/ \_\ Motors... \| E8400, NZXT Hush, Corsair TX-750, Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R, 4GB DDR2 Corsair DHX, Asus 8800GTS 512, Auzentech Prelude Xfi, Seagate 7200.11 500GB 32mg cache

10th July 2012, 8:52 PM	#19
power Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: brisbane Posts: 27,090	You can also hit F8 and load VGA mode from the F8 menu. My gut is still going with faulty card, hope it's not for the OP's sake. __________________ this is who we are.

10th July 2012, 9:43 PM	#20
Web Address Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 28	Connected my tower to my tv via a HDMI cable and I put my graphics card into another PCI-E slot and it loaded up fine, saw the motherboard image and everything. Installed the drivers. Moved the graphics card back to the optimum PCI-E slot and then booted up, saw the motherboard image too. I'm thinking that maybe my compouter screen isn't on by the time my computer finishes showing the motherboard image. While I had my tower plugged into my tv a second ago I saw the motherboard image for a brief second. When I plugged back into my monitor I also saw it very, very briefly. I restarted while connected to my monitor and didn't see it. I can still hit F2 when I see the LED's on my keyboard light up and go to the BIOS absolutely fine, I ran Skyrim earlier and it didn't crash at all. So hopefully i'm right in assuming that my pc is just too fast for my monitor to turn on in time and see the motherboard image. Or, I may be wrong. I'll give Skyrim another run after I have a shower and see how it goes again, should be a good hour of play. Last edited by Web Address; 10th July 2012 at 9:45 PM.

1st August 2012, 8:22 PM	#26
TRG.dOinK Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Melb East Posts: 2,814	Ah I just figured out a dying HDD can also make your boot times really slow. I have an SSD and usually it boots maybe 1-2 seconds after the Windows boot screen, and each additional normal hdd adds 1-3 seconds, but one of my drives was making the SSD take 45-60 seconds to load. I formatted Windows, but it was the same, so I unplugged all HDDs bar the SSD, and plugged them back in one by one, and found that one of my HDDs would make it slow. Ran WD's software and it fails the quick test. Just a heads up for those who might have a SSD and suffer slow boot up times to check the health of your other HDDs before formatting. __________________ ... /\ . _\ /_ Mitsubishi \| Successful Trades: Suicidal, Nerotic, Chiefgc, Mr Chilled, Kooliez, Vortexkrow, Grandarcmaster, AT-AT ./_/ \_\ Motors... \| E8400, NZXT Hush, Corsair TX-750, Gigabyte GA-EP35C-DS3R, 4GB DDR2 Corsair DHX, Asus 8800GTS 512, Auzentech Prelude Xfi, Seagate 7200.11 500GB 32mg cache

10th July 2012, 8:29 PM	#17
Web Address Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 28	I took my Graphics card out and uninstalled my graphics card drivers, I also reset the CMOS battery, and without the Graphics card in it booted up fine, motherboard picture and all. Just, I can't install my graphics card driver without my graphics card being plugged in, and when it's plugged in I can't see the display because of the missing Graphics driver. What do I do?

10th July 2012, 10:57 PM	#21
Web Address Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 28	Well, Skyrim ran beautifully, no crashing

12th July 2012, 7:39 AM	#22
Web Address Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 28	I take everything back. Yesterday Skyrim crashed a heap! Every few minutes, 'Your display driver stopped responding and has recovered...ect'. Battlefield 3 also crashed after about 20mins of play telling me that my graphics card had run out of memory. I just booted my machine up and all I saw was those vertical coloured lines until the desktop appeared, didn't even see the 'Starting Windows' screen. I'm able to use Chrome to type this though absolutely fine. Does this still sound like a faulty video card?

12th July 2012, 8:08 AM	#23
mareke Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, NSW Posts: 3,536	Either playing those games pushes the card beyond its limits or it's faulty. The vertical lines on reboot suggest it's faulty-perhaps it gets too hot while you play the game and is still too hot on rebooting. Try checking the graphics card settings in Windows to see if there are any you can alter to reduce stress on the card. Does it have reasonable air flow around it? Remove the side of the case and see if it still happens. Heat more than anything kills graphics cards. The problem with making a warranty claim is that the fault needs to be replicable otherwise they may say it's not faulty.

12th July 2012, 8:19 AM	#24
Web Address Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 28	I have a GeForce GTX 670 2GB, I'm positive it can handle those games. I booted it up this morning and saw the lines, so it would have cooled down overnight. I'll try with the side off after school. There should be sufficient air flow anyway, there are 3 case fans, 3 smaller fans on the graphics card, and one cpu fan.