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Old 20th July 2012, 8:49 PM   #1
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Default Unity rocks! Do you Agree?

Seems like a huge amount of dislike for it in here... who uses it/likes it?

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Back to Unity for her, sadly.
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Despite a couple of days playing around I have been unable to enjoy Unity. What a stinking pile of shit.
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Going back to Linux full time at home and with steam and the rest being tested on ubuntu I'm very tempted to go back to Canonicals linux offering. I'm not using Unity, Gnome 3 or KDE ( I hate them, don't care if others love them and not interested in debating their, *cough* "merits")
Personally, I have no problem with it.
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Old 20th July 2012, 8:58 PM   #2
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I am not a fan of it... But have been forced to use it at work recently and do not see where the hate is coming from!

In Windows, I hit the WIN key and type what i want. In Unity, I do the exact same thing (plus it seems smarter with tags. EG 'MP3' will bring up my music player).

The only thing I don't like is how many mouse click is required to bring up all the apps.
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Old 20th July 2012, 9:08 PM   #3
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I could do most of the stuff unity did before unity/gnome 3 with Gnome-do and other stuff. I'm not against others using it I just don't like it (and I've been hating on KDE for years lol). Plus, if I'm going keyboard centric I prefer something like xmonad and most people would hate it that.

I think the important thing is due to how awesome the FOSS world is we have the choice to customise our workflow so much, where as the other two OSes are no where near as configurable (Not flaming, just fact)
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Old 20th July 2012, 10:14 PM   #4
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My first install of ubuntu was Hardy Heron. It was easy to use, even if I did have to install special drivers for tablet buttons and stylus.

I didn't stick with Heron though as Vista was just better. THen a year or two went by and I picked it up again at Natty.

Natty is awesome. With Docky it runs beautifullly on a tablet. You can put everything in your panel or Docky, both of which you can easily hide, how you wish.


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Dock the tablet to a 23" monitor and everything just works. Vista stuffs this up. I couldn't believe it. Let me sort desktop icons and run my Windows graphing program and I'm just about set.

Was also happy with Natty setting up servers and Windows at the home PC through Virtualbox. Everything was easy find. Just the way it should be.

On this tablet I wrote a few good articles in Libre, ran Matlab, GIMP, NX, everything. I did my thesis presentation with it and it was great. Rarely crashed during a few months constant use.

My next upgrade is abandonment of Gnome 2 completely and it makes me sad that I just can't click "classic mode" and put everything where I want it now.

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Old 20th July 2012, 10:21 PM   #5
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I am not a fan of it... But have been forced to use it at work recently and do not see where the hate is coming from!
From a performance perspective Gnome2 based GUI's are faster

From a customisation perspective almost all other GUI's are more customisable out of the box.

From a usability perspective Unity is geared more towards newbies and people who like the whole mobile ui jig, for a lot of people the task bar down the bottom has been there for over a decade, my little joke was that 'Unity is just a global menu and a dock', but a lot of people hate docks and thus.

From the I hate unity perspective, Ubuntu and unty are the devil, and they have been forced down the throat of users everywhere, thus ubuntu are evil and so is unity and I spit in the face of Mark Shuttleworth!:

http://ikt.id.au/blog/2012/04/11/exa...inux-is-about/

I like Unity, to me it's a global menu and a dock, I just wish overall it had less bugs like this:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/14069...buntu-12-04lts

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Old 21st July 2012, 12:23 AM   #6
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I can't work out why this happened. Is it in hope that subsequent versions will make up for the loss of functionality eventually?

I think I'll keep running natty just for the world clock


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It's all part of the panel, which unity redundantfied.

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http://askubuntu.com/questions/14069...buntu-12-04lts
Is that a unity issue?
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Old 21st July 2012, 12:29 AM   #7
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Is that a unity issue?
More like I was hoping I'd plug in the USB Dongle, run through the nice and easy setup wizard, and it'd 'just work', but instead I had to edit a profile and run dhclient just to get it to run.

I have similar bugs to that in Unity, the whole thing will go really laggy, sometimes fully freeze, the spotify icon just goes missing and is basically blank, when you drag some applications onto the launcher it doesn't recognise the programs open and so tries to open it again but fails etc Tiny bugs that annoy the shit out of me.

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I think I'll keep running natty just for the world clock

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It's all part of the panel, which unity redundantfied.
http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/06/...-taskbarpanel/

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Downgrade from the Gnome 2 which has a map and an illuminated circle and just looks better (see pic above).
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Old 21st July 2012, 3:34 AM   #9
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I haven't used it in a while so I do not know if it has improved. But last time I used it, it was a piece of junk. I hated it.
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Old 21st July 2012, 4:34 AM   #10
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I haven't used it in a while so I do not know if it has improved. But last time I used it, it was a piece of junk. I hated it.
The man has some words for you...

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/m...ars-ago-sucked

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“Every week we would get in a bunch of people …to benchmark how we’re doing. When we started this process we realised very quickly that the desktop we had four years ago sucked.” Shuttleworth shared.

“It was great for us; we all loved it. But [if] you put it down in front of anyone off the street …it was just terrible.”

By continually testing, refining, and iterating Unity has matured considerably in its few short years of existence. So much so that it is, in testing, shown to be the second easiest desktop to use after Windows, and ahead of the oft-lauded ‘simplicity’ of Mac OS.
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Old 21st July 2012, 10:03 AM   #11
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No , unity make me change ubuntu for LinuxMint
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Old 21st July 2012, 10:19 AM   #12
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Having tried a bunch of mainstream distros lately I came to 12.04, quickly realised it was the bottom of the pack in design and offered very little over the others. KDE for me.
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Old 21st July 2012, 11:24 AM   #13
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To be fair, I haven't found a UI I do like. GNOME2 came pretty close, but there were still a lot of annoyances for me that got in the way of doing real work.

The guys I work with are KDE fans, but customise it heavily. Things like focus following the mouse, but only raise on title bar click, etc. It helps them take notes on things that they need to watch visually, so that their editor apps don't go over their creative content or video apps while they work.

Current Unity is OK, but the way maximise and menu bar hiding works annoys me. The "tap alt for magic menu" thing is very cool, but it can get a bit confused when you're alt+tabbing to quickly (or dealing with a VM where the alt key needs to be sent through).

Because my current workplace is rolling out KDE, I'm using it for now. It's not my choice, but I need to "eat my own dogfood" as I roll stuff out, so it's what I'm using. At home, the old clunker Celeron 1.5GHz with 512MB RAM I have runs LXDE purely for speed reasons.

My eldest daughter runs Unity, and seems OK with it. But she's a tween and is "meh" about everything. My wife has GNOME2 on her old laptop (still running Natty) and Unity on her new one (running Precise). I loaded up Cinnamon on the new one for her, but it wasn't stable enough for her to use on a day to day basis (it's her work laptop for her small business, so crashing out the UI while she's doing someone else's finances isn't an option). So she's back to Unity again for now.

When I've got 30 seconds to myself, I'll take a look at MATE and see how that's going.

For what it's worth, I find both the current Windows and MacOSX interfaces frustrating and slow for their own unique reasons. GUIs still just slow me down, and I seem to fall back to the CLI time and time again to get to things quickly (I invariably go and download random open source console applications for Windows and MacOSX when I'm working on them, as the built in cmd/terminal prompts for both utterly suck). Although my job does involve a lot of rapid changes of direction in a single day (so much so that I regularly get comments from co-workers as to the volume of different tasks I do over the course of even a single hour), which makes my personal workflow very different to the norm, I guess.
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Old 21st July 2012, 5:04 PM   #14
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More or less this. ^^^

That said, however, I'm not a fan at all of "mobile phone chic" (for desktop GUIs and apps, or indeed, the web). It could die in a fire, and I wouldn't even waste time toasting something to its memory.

No, the more I think about it, the more I loathe Unity and all its ilk. Yes, other GUIs shit me. No, I'm not going to switch to something *far* worse in nearly every way possible, thanks anyway.
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Old 22nd July 2012, 1:52 AM   #15
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I tried to like Unity, I really did... it works OK for me on my desktop which has "well supported" hardware, but the way I use it there, it is mainly not used. (I instead make use of AWN and Gnome-Do).

On my laptop, with Optimus, it is a whole 'nother kettle of fish. A recent update caused all my Unity launcher icons to become invisible (but text still showed and I could still use them)... nothing I tried fixed it.

Reinstalled Ubuntu 12.04 on the laptop... updated everything... reboot. Go to log in... session selection at LightDM login is now laggy... what... the... funk. I also have weird bugs in Unity like some of my icons (empathy, WINE icons) becoming stuck behind the panel... have to log out and log back in to fix it (killing the unity panel process doesn't, urgh)... also as mentioned, the world clock applet being neutered is the suck...

Anyway with the lagging at LightDM issue, I decided I had had enough, downloaded Kubuntu 12.04... installed that... holy crap, everything just works. I was previously not a supporter of KDE because it just had too much crap on by default, but after spending a few minutes getting my head around how it all worked and disabling everything I didn't want... it is now uber clean and uber functional.

I have to say I freaking LIKE it on my laptop... but there are some small things that irk me... mainly features that KDE doesn't have that GNOME does... still, I like many other features that KDE has that GNOME doesn't... and it is working splendidly for me in this situation... so I think it will stay on my laptop (which is mainly used for bedtime browsing).
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