AMD's 2012 lines: Komodo, Trinity, and, Krishna/Wichita

[bobbth]

Originally Posted by zero_velocity

My chip is quite capable of 5GHz (water though) daily clock is 4.6ghz to keep system cool and quiet though

sorry auto-spell screwed up my post, fixed.

[loophole]

Originally Posted by DiGiTaL MoNkEY

AMD "Vishera" FX-Series CPU Specifications Confirmed

A leaked AMD document for retail partners spelled out specifications of the first three FX "Vishera" processors by AMD. The new CPUs incorporate AMD's "Piledriver" architecture, and much like the first-generation "Zambezi" chips, will launch as one each of eight-core, six-core, and four-core chips. The eight-core FX-8350 is confirmed to ship with 4.00 GHz nominal clock speed, with 4.20 GHz TurboCore speed. The six-core FX-6300 ships with 3.50 GHz nominal, and 4.10 GHz TurboCore speed. The quad-core FX-4320, on the other hand, ships with the same clock speeds as the FX-8350. In addition, the document confirmed clock speeds of several socket FM2 A-series APUs, such as the A10-5700 and the A8-5500.

http://www.techpowerup.com/171151/AM...Confirmed.html

Is the Turbo speed quoted in this chart the Full load turbo (all eight threads loaded) or half load turbo (half the modules in C6 sleep state)? Or does Vishera not have those two boost states any more?

I don't really understand why the FX chips tick all the GPU-type boxes on the chart either:
"Support for DirectX 11 for the latest graphics effects", etc...

[AEKaBeer]

from The Inq:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...ghz-is-spotted

[stmok]

Oct 1st: Trinity APU release (Socket FM2)
Oct 18th: Vishera CPU release (Socket AM3+)

Add 1 day for Australia due to timezones.

[stmok]

Pre-order prices of AMD FX "Piledriver" CPUs
=> http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2...iver_CPUs.html

FX-4300 => 3.8GHz/4.0GHz; 95W => US$131.62
FX-6300 => 3.5GHz/4.1GHz; 95W => US$175.77
FX-8320 => 3.5GHz/4.0GHz; 125W => US$242.05
FX-8350 => 4.0GHz/4.2GHz; 125W => US$253.06

[Psycho84]

Originally Posted by stmok

Pre-order prices of AMD FX "Piledriver" CPUs
=> http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2...iver_CPUs.html

FX-4300 => 3.8GHz/4.0GHz; 95W => US$131.62
FX-6300 => 3.5GHz/4.1GHz; 95W => US$175.77
FX-8320 => 3.5GHz/4.0GHz; 125W => US$242.05
FX-8350 => 4.0GHz/4.2GHz; 125W => US$253.06

Hrm...so is the FX8320 over priced or the FX8350 under priced? Wonder if there is even any bin difference at all too?

(plz no AMD are all overpriced trolljokes :P )

[TOFUGil]

?...0.2Ghz turbo speed?..why even bother.

[AEKaBeer]

Re prices too high/low: A bit of both.

The 83xx's are closer this time around since everyone realised you can get the same specs with the 8120 as the 8150 for $70 less simply by bumping the multi hence the $20 difference.

The 8150 came out at too high a price point to justify the purchase (sub 2500k performance for $100 more), based on the recent ES results that were put out despite, not being a big improvement, it does fall into line with a 2600k's so it's priced more reasonably.


EDIT: after some googling, it seems that $100 over the i5 I mentioned was an au tax vs the official rrp given by AMD of $245USD, the 8120's rrp was $205 USD.

[Psycho84]

Originally Posted by TOFUGil

?...0.2Ghz turbo speed?..why even bother.

Don't they have two Turbo speeds? One for all cores at once and one for single cores?

[AEKaBeer]

The bulldozers has turbo (multi) core was 3.9Ghz and max (single) core was 4.2Ghz.

[stmok]

Originally Posted by stmok

Oct 1st: Trinity APU release (Socket FM2)
Oct 18th: Vishera CPU release (Socket AM3+)

Add 1 day for Australia due to timezones.

AMD Sets the FX "Vishera" Launch Date.
=> http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...unch_Date.html

AMD plans to formally unwrap its long-awaited performance chip code-named Vishera on the 23th of October, according to a source.

...So in about 1 month's time.

[stmok]

As we inch closer to Trinity's release date (October 2nd), hardware sites are bringing out reviews and previews...

AMD Desktop Trinity Update: Now With Core i3 And A8-3870K
=> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-apu,3241.html

Gaming At 1920x1080: AMD's Trinity Takes On Intel HD Graphics
=> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ance,3304.html

AMD Trinity On The Desktop: A10, A8, And A6 Get Benchmarked!
=> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...400k,3224.html

AMD A10-5800K & A8-5600K Review: Trinity on the Desktop, Part 1
=> http://www.anandtech.com/show/6332/a...-review-part-1
(Only Part 1 available at the time of this post.)

AMD Trinity for Desktops. Part 1: Graphics Core
=> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/gra...-graphics.html
(Only Part 1 available at the time of this post.)

AMD Trinity FM2 APU Preview
=> http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/FM2_APU_Preview/


...Enjoy and discuss!

[Madengineer]

Gotta say, quite impressive.

Does anybody know which series cards you'll be able to use best in conjunction with these CPUs?

Ok, the coupled GPUs are pathetic!

Do they even still sell 6670s and 6570s?

You'd think atleast They'd update to include the latest generation!

Dam!

Still, it looks to be a reasonable chip.

I'm going to seriously consider one for my next build.

[remoteman213]

Nice comparison with i5 3470 (only gaming benches though):http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-trin...e/17272-1.html

Looks pretty good! Just wondering, is it possible for vishera to perform worse than than this in gaming?

Notable comment:

The reason pile driver is tested here is to see whether it is a viable CPU to use with a discrete graphics card. There were great FPS gaps for games that used a discrete GPU and LLano or FX line as CPU. AMD has closed that gap. This is actually the best review so far. The iGPUi in trinity is proving in net 20% faster;Anandtech. If you are solely upgrading for iGPU, not worth upgrade; though good for Notebook segment. If you are using the platform and all your main criteria is FPS, this is for you; AMD is neck to neck with Intel on that front. If you are using the FX platform, then wait a few weeks, it will deliver similar performance, but you won't have to buy a new mobo. The new FX 6 core will hold its own against the i5; won't be warranted to change platform unless money is not an object. If you are already have Intel, then stay with them though you usually have to buy a new mobo every time your buying a new Intel CPU; so you can't exactly just compare AMD and Intel CPUs, you need to consider upgradibility as well. If you look at Tom's Hardware review, it puts pile driver at a disappointing 5-10% faster performance. Let's hope, the extra cache and other feature in the new FX line, make it 15-20% faster.

Probable?

[bobbth]

Originally Posted by Madengineer

Ok, the coupled GPUs are pathetic!

I dunno about that, they are pretty good for what they do. I personally think it's amazing that AMD/Intel have wedged almost-3D-capeable gpu's into a CPU die despite the memory/power bottleneck, esepecially on AMD's part considering a dual module FX processor is 95w alone but somehow for ~5% more power they get the equivalent x86 power and ~380 radeon cores (I don't understand how they can do this and people still rumor that piledriver will be as power hungry as bulldozer)