Folding with Conroe

chainbolt · 15th July 2006, 8:56 PM

Big question of courde for everybody: How does Conroe fold. I have 2 systemsrunning with the new CPU, and after some testing I can confirm: Much better productivity and greatly reduced power consumption. The only drawback I see is that the X6800 does not have HT enabled, which works so well with the Pentium D 955 and 965 when folding.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Datsun 1600

... my FX-57 is doing a p761_vln3.3pbc frame in 10m 55s and my 930 is doing 14m 9s. Still going to wait though.

Datsun 1600

p761_vln3.3pbc frame
Conroe 2.66 GHz: 8:18 minutes
Conroe: 3.50 GHz: 6:20 minutes

E6700 at stock speed 2.66@2.66

X6800 2.93@3.50 GHz (on air)

Pentium D 955 3.46@4.1

running 2 instances, when running 4 instances the power consumption is uo to 330 Watt.

tired · 15th July 2006, 9:17 PM

We need one of the OCAU sponsors to offer folders a magnificent Conroe special, in the interest of greater production!

CaeSiuM-X · 15th July 2006, 10:13 PM

wat about a folding group buy

Macaholic · 16th July 2006, 1:13 AM

Not too bad. Merom can do better. Purchase a Core Solo Mac mini (least expensive model) and a Merom ES chip. Grab a 1" putty knife. Have at it!

p2357 + p2365 = 1120.2ppd

p2357 DGromac
TPF 00:19:02
TPU 31:43:20

p2365 DGromac
TPF 00:17:50
TPU 29:43:20

Extra SSE2 boost OK.

Merom T7400 (2.16GHz)
- Off 01 watts
- Boot 41 watts
- MacOS X/Win XP only 21 watts
- MacOS X/Win XP with 2 Folding@home CLI clients 51 watts

Benchmarks and pictures are here for those that may have missed it.

Teddy2 · 16th July 2006, 8:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tired

We need one of the OCAU sponsors to offer folders a magnificent Conroe special, in the interest of greater production!

I wonder amongst us who has contacts with the OCAU sponsors to arrange such a deal. I know Computer Alliance is offering some stuff atm & good old Pluscorp are also offering special pricing. Looks like it will be very popular & in short supply

I for one am keen to have a Conroe in my stable to try this beast out

Teddy

7im · 17th July 2006, 7:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macaholic

Not too bad. Merom can do better. Purchase a Core Solo Mac mini (least expensive model) and a Merom ES chip. Grab a 1" putty knife. Have at it!

p2357 + p2365 = 1120.2ppd

p2357 DGromac
TPF 00:19:02
TPU 31:43:20

p2365 DGromac
TPF 00:17:50
TPU 29:43:20

Extra SSE2 boost OK.

Merom T7400 (2.16GHz)
- Off 01 watts
- Boot 41 watts
- MacOS X/Win XP only 21 watts
- MacOS X/Win XP with 2 Folding@home CLI clients 51 watts

Benchmarks and pictures are here for those that may have missed it.

As for PPD peformance at stock speeds, I would guess Merom and Conroe to come out about the same. chainbolt is getting ~600 PPD on those 2 Gromacs (at 3.5 GHz). If you double that for what a DGromacs would make with SSE2 boost, that's rather close to the same neighborhood as the Merom, if not slightly better.

Notable differences... Mini Mac plus upgrade is available now, and will be much cheaper for both initial cost and long term electric bills.

When Conroe is released (and then later is available at retail), it will have chips at a higher GHz than Merom, and as shown, will probably overclock decently for a first stepping, but costs more now and long term.

You can't go wrong with any of these, Woodcrest, Conroe, and Merom.

FaTs · 17th July 2006, 8:04 AM

Conroe is going to be great for FAH, I'll have my E6600 monday and a couple of daul woodcrests by the end of the week

tired · 17th July 2006, 12:29 PM

Just ordered the following from Computer Alliance:

Intel S775 Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz CPU

ASUS S775 P5B Deluxe Core 2 Motherboard

DDR2 2GB G.Skill 800MHz PC6400 RAM Kit ZX

I can see my production going up when it's all up and running

I usually fold for 12 hoursish a day, but I will be running 2 instances with dual-core and of course, my time per frame is going to improve nicely over my San Diego 3700+.

First 2 weeks though, I am going to run 24/7 as a stress test

Gus the Mus · 17th July 2006, 8:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tired

I usually fold for 12 hoursish a day

Out of interest, why do you only do 12 hours a day??

tired · 17th July 2006, 10:05 PM

Turn on when I get up, turn off before I go to bed at night....12-14 hours per day on average.

Dunno what the only 12 hours pd frown is about, as if anyone not folding 24/7 should somehow feel like they are letting the team down?

I am comfortable with my output.

xb99 · 18th July 2006, 1:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gus the Mus

Out of interest, why do you only do 12 hours a day??

Some People don't sleep in the same room as their pc's!
Its ok in winter, but when summer hits, they go off at night!

Xaos · 19th July 2006, 1:05 PM

Will see what CA can do once we get some better priced mainboards through and the chips are in decent supply.

Note the prices currently in Sponsors Specials for the chips are very close to cost, so you can use that as a idea on pricing. Prices are not expected to change much this year on chips, but boards and ram should come down (In short term though, RAM is going up right now). Volume buys for chips are meaningless as there are tiny margins and huge volumes already in place.

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...d.php?t=489513

Reminds me, no idea of how many of our machines are still folding here. Most are ancient and have been having speed/heat/noise issues when folding so had to turn folding off. We had 40 odd some years back. I will replace a lot of them with Conroes soon, and will get them back folding. Conroe should remove that noise/heat disincentive.

Its a bit of a worry, I think last time i checked we were at least in the top 20 OCAU folders, I see we have fallen far.

......just checked and it seems my 2.4G P4 I am typing on is still chugging along. Some ancient version of the folding client! Bout time I updated. Think I'll go scrounge for the X6800 sample if I can extract it off the techs!

Bollocks · 19th July 2006, 1:15 PM

Thanks Xaos, I'm sure a lot of Folders will take the opportunity to upgrade to a Conroe in the near future.

Getting CA back to full strength Folding wise will be great and help with the push to No1.

FaTs · 19th July 2006, 1:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bollocks

Thanks Xaos, I'm sure a lot of Folders will take the opportunity to upgrade to a Conroe in the near future.

Getting CA back to full strength fFlding wise will be great and help with the push to No1.

It would be great too see, myself and CA had a good scrap for awhile when they were running at full strength.

Teddy2 · 19th July 2006, 1:31 PM

Many Thx Xaos for replying to my PM

I am sure when the time comes I will have a conroe CPU/mobo in the stable ready to rip thru some proteins...

Wouldnt mind a tasty AM2 to go with it as well, just need to sell off a couple of Xeons...

Teddy

15th July 2006, 9:17 PM	#2
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16th July 2006, 1:13 AM	#4
Macaholic Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: 1 Infinite Loop Posts: 16	Not too bad. Merom can do better. Purchase a Core Solo Mac mini (least expensive model) and a Merom ES chip. Grab a 1" putty knife. Have at it! p2357 + p2365 = 1120.2ppd p2357 DGromac TPF 00:19:02 TPU 31:43:20 p2365 DGromac TPF 00:17:50 TPU 29:43:20 Extra SSE2 boost OK. Merom T7400 (2.16GHz) - Off 01 watts - Boot 41 watts - MacOS X/Win XP only 21 watts - MacOS X/Win XP with 2 Folding@home CLI clients 51 watts Benchmarks and pictures are here for those that may have missed it. __________________ Fold! It does a body good! 173.82 GHz Tower of Folding Power <Removed at the request of Apple Legal>

17th July 2006, 8:04 AM	#7
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17th July 2006, 12:29 PM	#8
tired Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne Posts: 5,179	Just ordered the following from Computer Alliance: Intel S775 Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz CPU ASUS S775 P5B Deluxe Core 2 Motherboard DDR2 2GB G.Skill 800MHz PC6400 RAM Kit ZX I can see my production going up when it's all up and running I usually fold for 12 hoursish a day, but I will be running 2 instances with dual-core and of course, my time per frame is going to improve nicely over my San Diego 3700+. First 2 weeks though, I am going to run 24/7 as a stress test __________________ PCDB \| PCDB 2 OCAU Guitar Players Club Folding@Home 850000 Points Milestone

17th July 2006, 10:05 PM	#10
tired Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne Posts: 5,179	Turn on when I get up, turn off before I go to bed at night....12-14 hours per day on average. Dunno what the only 12 hours pd frown is about, as if anyone not folding 24/7 should somehow feel like they are letting the team down? I am comfortable with my output. __________________ PCDB \| PCDB 2 OCAU Guitar Players Club Folding@Home 850000 Points Milestone

15th July 2006, 10:13 PM	#3
CaeSiuM-X Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Melbourne, 3123 Folding:7 Posts: 2,027	wat about a folding group buy

19th July 2006, 1:05 PM	#12
Xaos OCAU Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brisbane Posts: 213	Will see what CA can do once we get some better priced mainboards through and the chips are in decent supply. Note the prices currently in Sponsors Specials for the chips are very close to cost, so you can use that as a idea on pricing. Prices are not expected to change much this year on chips, but boards and ram should come down (In short term though, RAM is going up right now). Volume buys for chips are meaningless as there are tiny margins and huge volumes already in place. http://forums.overclockers.com.au/sh...d.php?t=489513 Reminds me, no idea of how many of our machines are still folding here. Most are ancient and have been having speed/heat/noise issues when folding so had to turn folding off. We had 40 odd some years back. I will replace a lot of them with Conroes soon, and will get them back folding. Conroe should remove that noise/heat disincentive. Its a bit of a worry, I think last time i checked we were at least in the top 20 OCAU folders, I see we have fallen far. ......just checked and it seems my 2.4G P4 I am typing on is still chugging along. Some ancient version of the folding client! Bout time I updated. Think I'll go scrounge for the X6800 sample if I can extract it off the techs! __________________ Adam Oswald Computer Alliance Email: adam@computeralliance.com.au Ph: 07 3421 3200 Shop Address: 1517 Logan Rd Mount Gravatt QLD 4122

19th July 2006, 1:15 PM	#13
Bollocks Master of Folding Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Mandurah W.A. Posts: 7,719	Thanks Xaos, I'm sure a lot of Folders will take the opportunity to upgrade to a Conroe in the near future. Getting CA back to full strength Folding wise will be great and help with the push to No1. __________________ "We shall Fold on the beaches. We shall Fold on the landing grounds. We shall Fold in the fields, and in the streets, we shall Fold in the hills. We shall never surrender!" The Official OCAU Folding Page Folding@Home 350,000 Club Folding@Home 21,000,000 Points Milestone Last edited by Bollocks; 19th July 2006 at 2:15 PM.

19th July 2006, 1:31 PM	#15
Teddy2 Folding, Folding, Folding Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Canberra ACT 450000 Club Posts: 9,632	Thx Adam Many Thx Xaos for replying to my PM I am sure when the time comes I will have a conroe CPU/mobo in the stable ready to rip thru some proteins... Wouldnt mind a tasty AM2 to go with it as well, just need to sell off a couple of Xeons... Teddy __________________ Monash ACT weather Addicted to Folding Club #62 Folding since August 2001 Folding@Home 450k Club Folding@Home 40000000 Points Milestone