[OFFICIAL] Free ICD7 thermal compound for OCAU members RESULTS THREAD - Page 9

ICD7 · 1st November 2008, 2:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrastrife

Ambient ~28C

Linpack via LinX front end.

Q6600 3600Mhz 1.43v, 175 W
Noctua NH U12P (dual fans)

Arctic Silver 5
93-98C (thermal shutdown reached)

IC Diamond
84-87C

Nothing like extreme heat loads to really shine. this was back to back. AS5 both original and a new fresh install had the same results, quite simply unable to keep the CPU running.

2X the watts - 2X the delta temps

ICD7 · 1st November 2008, 6:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuRyZ

I would like to see a comparison of this stuff and Coolabs Liquid Metal Thermal Paste if anyone has some.

Also what is this paste's reaction to sub-zero. Anyone have a phase cooler they are willing to try out using this paste.

Russian review comparison

Raktor · 1st November 2008, 10:19 AM

Any Australian retailers/wholesalers yet? I'm quite interested in this now...

cbjaust · 1st November 2008, 11:44 AM

post updated

results not so good

delta T (AS5 - ICD7) ~ -9ºC and that was the second attempt.

First attempt had the 85ºC BIOS temperature alarm going off!!! I think I put too much on and it turned into an insulator!!

I used less the second time but maybe the stock retention mechanism is just not up to the job...

I'll give it another go later.

Cheers

dicko · 2nd November 2008, 5:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raktor

Any Australian retailers/wholesalers yet? I'm quite interested in this now...

I have sent you a PM.

dicko · 7th November 2008, 6:11 AM

I just thought I would give you all a link to a post in the OverClockers.com Forums which has some more recent Reviews and some updated results from results of various tests done there and here.
Also just hoping for a few more results from all you guys here if you can get around to it. We are not thet far from getting more than they got over there now.
Link for latest results reviews etc HERE.

ICD7 · 9th November 2008, 4:22 PM

Quote:

User- Comparison paste-Result Red AS5
EvilGenius * AS5 -1.83
Spamz0r * AS5 -6
CD_TOASTER* AS5 -2
t8y* Stock+.5
Hennels* AS5+0.5
Butcher9_9* AS5 -2
Crash Dummy * Stock paste -3
OsiC* Stock paste -1
stuii*AS5-1
bees_man*AS5+.05
brendohall*AS5+3.25
cbjaust*AS5+8.4
jimmy*AS5-.5
maev*AS5-2
Aetherone*AS5-6
t8y*AS5-.75
terrastrife*AS5-10

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User- Comparison paste-Result yellow MX2
EC MEISTER *MX-2 -2
buzzen * MX-2 -2.25
Lardman
CPU -1
GPU1-6.1
GPU1+.5

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User- Comparison paste-Result Blue Stock and miscellaneous
redw0lf * Stock-10.25
boogerthe2nd * Thermalright-7
swiftyb * Stock paste-4
tfroggydawg *noctua paste-3.25
JohnZ*Stock Paste-6.1
vchoy* Stock paste -11
Boomsie*Stock-0
boogerthe2nd*stock_6
K3nii*ASC*-2
AussieTemplar*TX2-1.5
jimmy*stock-8.5
NiSlo*Stock=.01
Aetherone*stockWG-10
AetheroneStockintel-14

Updated results for everybody

Anybody I have missed so far? Any corrections or updates let me know.

ICD7 · 9th November 2008, 6:26 PM

I added OCAU to the overall to see what it would look like. With the 160 user tests graphics are getting a little scrunched I will have to figure another way to format it.

SnooP-WiggleS · 9th November 2008, 6:58 PM

I've updated my last post with some new results. 2 deg @ stock and 5 deg o/c improvement now instead of 2 deg worse after burn in. Will post o/c results too in a bit. I don't think i was there in that list.

ICD7 · 15th November 2008, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnooP-WiggleS

I've updated my last post with some new results. 2 deg @ stock and 5 deg o/c improvement now instead of 2 deg worse after burn in. Will post o/c results too in a bit. I don't think i was there in that list.

Snoop wiggles averaged your result to -3.5 C and added to new chart. Playing around with formating so it's more readable.

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Flux · 20th November 2008, 12:58 AM

Sorry about it taking so long haven't been so well past few months.
Programs used: Core Temp + Prime95.
System:
X3350 @ Stock (2.66ghz) with a stock xeon cooler.
Artic Silver 5:
Idle:
Core1: 40c
Core2: 42c
Core3: 39c
Core4: 40c

100% Load:
Core1:79c
Core2:79c
Core3:72c
Core4:75c

IC7:
Idle:
Core1: 42c
Core2: 43c
Core3: 40c
Core4: 43c

100% Load
Core1: 80c
Core2: 79c
Core3: 82c
Core4: 78c

All in all, Thanks for the free tube however due to how difficult it is to apply this stuff with no results I am sticking as5.

dicko · 20th November 2008, 6:53 AM

Did you try warming the ICD7 up in hot water prior to application, I discussed this earlier and it makes it much easier to apply. It is very dense due to the high diamond ( @92%) loading, but this high density helps stop bake out and pump out, this helps to give much better results over a much longer period of time. So no need to re apply regularly to maintain performance like with the more highly viscous TIM's.
With the installation did you make sure you were getting good contact and pressure between the heatsink and the CPU. The warming of the ICD 7 will also help with this.

boogerthe2nd · 20th November 2008, 8:02 AM

Yeah, have to agree that warming the thing up helps a lot. Stick it in a small plastic bag or something (sandwich bag works great) and immerse in some hot water for a min or 2, and it'll come out a lot smoother.

ICD7 · 21st November 2008, 2:51 AM

When trouble shooting results our experience from our contact and pressure testing most see a result out of the gate.

The remaining with the exception of a couple of samples were determined to be either a contact or pressure problem. Pressure over 50lbs. + lapping the IHS were the obvious combination for best results

The contact and pressure tests pretty well dovetail with most general forum trouble shooting recommendations for heat sink problems where a user posts "my temps are high" which usually follows with the most common responses on hardware fixes " Try a remount", "Tighten the screws", "try lapping" etc. these issues are subtle and most users instinctively understand that key performance requires high pressure and good contact.

Performance issues are common can be sometimes non obvious they can push the limits of patience of the best mechanics.

Zodie · 21st November 2008, 9:14 PM

Sorry for the late results, been putting off stripping the laptop till I had the spare time.

Processor: Intel Centrino Duo T7200 2.00GHz undervolted running at idle 998MHz 0.9500v, 100%load 1996MHz 1.0875v, stock cooler, loaded using Intel Thermal Analysis Tool, temps by core temp 0.99.3

Ambient temp for both tests: 21c

Stock thermal sticky pad thingy:

Idle temps after 5 minutes:
Core 1: 35c
Core 2: 38c

Load temps after 100% for 5 minutes:
Core 1: 86c
Core 2: 86c

ICD7 thermal compund:

Idle temps after 5 minutes:
Core 1: 37c
Core 2: 38c

Load temps after 100% for 5 minutes:
Core 1: 85c
Core 2: 86c

I'll see if temps decrease over time. Thanks for the sample!

1st November 2008, 10:19 AM	#123
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1st November 2008, 11:44 AM	#124
cbjaust Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 564	post updated results not so good delta T (AS5 - ICD7) ~ -9ºC and that was the second attempt. First attempt had the 85ºC BIOS temperature alarm going off!!! I think I put too much on and it turned into an insulator!! I used less the second time but maybe the stock retention mechanism is just not up to the job... I'll give it another go later. Cheers __________________ MAIN AMD Phenom II X4 940 @ 3.5GHz \| DFI DK 790FXB-M2RSH \| 4GB G.Skill PC8800 PI \| Radeon 4870 1GB OC SON'S AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ @ 3.2GHz \| Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe \| 4GB Team Xtreem Dark PC8500 \| Radeon 4850 OC SERVER AMD Opteron170 @ 2.75GHz \| DFI Lanparty UT NF4 SLI-D \| TwinX2048-3500LLPRO \| 7300 LE TESTING AMD Athlon XP-M \| Abit NF7-S \| 1GB OCZ EL PC-3200 Platinum Rev2 \| X1950 Pro 512MB

7th November 2008, 6:11 AM	#126
dicko Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Far North Queensland Posts: 338	I just thought I would give you all a link to a post in the OverClockers.com Forums which has some more recent Reviews and some updated results from results of various tests done there and here. Also just hoping for a few more results from all you guys here if you can get around to it. We are not thet far from getting more than they got over there now. Link for latest results reviews etc HERE. __________________ Soprano Gaming Case modded a little, extra fans, Corsair HX620W PSU, GAEP35-DS4. Q6600 GO Lapped @ 3402 MHz @1.4v, OCZ VENDETTA 2 Lapped.San Ace Fan, With IC Diamond Thermal Paste. 2 x 2 GB DDR2 800MHz ram, Sapphire HD4870 > 15967 3DMark06. 2 x 500 GB Samsung SATA II Hard Drives 1 X 120 GB SATA Hard Drive. 22" LCD monitor, 2x ASUS Sata lightscribe burners.

9th November 2008, 6:58 PM	#129
SnooP-WiggleS Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ballarat, Victoria Posts: 2,532	I've updated my last post with some new results. 2 deg @ stock and 5 deg o/c improvement now instead of 2 deg worse after burn in. Will post o/c results too in a bit. I don't think i was there in that list. __________________ RIG - CPU: Q6600 @ 3.3ghz \| RAM: 2GB 667 \| MOBO: Abit IP35 pro \| GC: xfx 8800gt @700 \| HD: 250gb + 500gb \| Audio: m-audio delta 1010lt -> PA2V2 -> Audio Technica a500 \| Case: Antec Sonata 3 PSU watts and 12V calculator (work in progress - feedback/suggestions welcome) Discussion thread OCAU WIKI's - heres what i've added, what can you add? The OCAU PSU wiki. ST-365 PSU review. Video Card wiki. XP DVB tuner setup. Quiet PC Last edited by SnooP-WiggleS; 9th November 2008 at 7:27 PM.

20th November 2008, 6:53 AM	#132
dicko Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Far North Queensland Posts: 338	Did you try warming the ICD7 up in hot water prior to application, I discussed this earlier and it makes it much easier to apply. It is very dense due to the high diamond ( @92%) loading, but this high density helps stop bake out and pump out, this helps to give much better results over a much longer period of time. So no need to re apply regularly to maintain performance like with the more highly viscous TIM's. With the installation did you make sure you were getting good contact and pressure between the heatsink and the CPU. The warming of the ICD 7 will also help with this. __________________ Soprano Gaming Case modded a little, extra fans, Corsair HX620W PSU, GAEP35-DS4. Q6600 GO Lapped @ 3402 MHz @1.4v, OCZ VENDETTA 2 Lapped.San Ace Fan, With IC Diamond Thermal Paste. 2 x 2 GB DDR2 800MHz ram, Sapphire HD4870 > 15967 3DMark06. 2 x 500 GB Samsung SATA II Hard Drives 1 X 120 GB SATA Hard Drive. 22" LCD monitor, 2x ASUS Sata lightscribe burners.

9th November 2008, 6:26 PM	#128
ICD7 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 49	I added OCAU to the overall to see what it would look like. With the 160 user tests graphics are getting a little scrunched I will have to figure another way to format it.

20th November 2008, 8:02 AM	#133
boogerthe2nd Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Earlwood, NSW 2206 Posts: 687	Yeah, have to agree that warming the thing up helps a lot. Stick it in a small plastic bag or something (sandwich bag works great) and immerse in some hot water for a min or 2, and it'll come out a lot smoother. __________________ \|E8300@3.6Ghz with 1.328 vcore in CPU-Z\|Thermalright Ultra 120\|GA-P35-DS3\|Palit 8800GT\|4GB Corsair RAM\|150GB Velociraptor\|3.5TB worth of HDDs\|HX-620 PSU\| Folding@Home 1000000 Points Milestone Folding@Home 40000 Club

21st November 2008, 2:51 AM	#134
ICD7 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 49	When trouble shooting results our experience from our contact and pressure testing most see a result out of the gate. The remaining with the exception of a couple of samples were determined to be either a contact or pressure problem. Pressure over 50lbs. + lapping the IHS were the obvious combination for best results The contact and pressure tests pretty well dovetail with most general forum trouble shooting recommendations for heat sink problems where a user posts "my temps are high" which usually follows with the most common responses on hardware fixes " Try a remount", "Tighten the screws", "try lapping" etc. these issues are subtle and most users instinctively understand that key performance requires high pressure and good contact. Performance issues are common can be sometimes non obvious they can push the limits of patience of the best mechanics.

21st November 2008, 9:14 PM	#135
Zodie Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6	Sorry for the late results, been putting off stripping the laptop till I had the spare time. Processor: Intel Centrino Duo T7200 2.00GHz undervolted running at idle 998MHz 0.9500v, 100%load 1996MHz 1.0875v, stock cooler, loaded using Intel Thermal Analysis Tool, temps by core temp 0.99.3 Ambient temp for both tests: 21c Stock thermal sticky pad thingy: Idle temps after 5 minutes: Core 1: 35c Core 2: 38c Load temps after 100% for 5 minutes: Core 1: 86c Core 2: 86c ICD7 thermal compund: Idle temps after 5 minutes: Core 1: 37c Core 2: 38c Load temps after 100% for 5 minutes: Core 1: 85c Core 2: 86c I'll see if temps decrease over time. Thanks for the sample!