kayls direct die project

kayl · 7th July 2004, 2:51 PM

ok this is the basic outline of the direct die unit that im woking on.

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for testing reasons i wipped this together to see what its capable of.

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but for now this is about all this system is good for

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kayl · 7th July 2004, 2:57 PM

for the condensor i hacked up an old condensor out of a air conditioner.
its just a tad bigger that a 120mm fan.
to make sure it didnt leak i place it into a bucket of water and pressure tested it to 300PSI.

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ok this is the compressor im using.
when its at its coldest temp it is using about 218w.
its out of a fridge/freezer, its a r12 comrpessor about a 1/6 HP compressor

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kayl · 7th July 2004, 3:08 PM

i will be starting with about 7.5 foot of 0.026 cap tube.
i will be using a copper spun domestic filture drier
for refrigerant i will be using r290 propane, it has a boiling temperature of about-42C.

i am baseing my direct die block on this design.
except mine will be a 2 layer design.

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what i will do its cut two of these paper out and glue them on the block.
one i will drill the white area
the other i will drill the red area

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this is what im using for refrigerant
i have 2 bottles one you use on the BBQ with a adaptor i got from bunnings and a hose which i cut one end off and placed a schraider valve in there, the other a camping gas bottle.
both work great

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kayl · 7th July 2004, 3:14 PM

and finally my home made vacuum pump.
its out of a 8500BTU air conditioner.
i reclaimed the r22 and keep that for a rainy day.
i might later on try a mix of r290 and r22 to see how that goes.
basically all you need out of a air conditioner is the run capacitor and the compressor.
i have a schraider valve on both the discharge and the suction line.
i can use it to vacuum the systems and pressure test stuff.

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ssX · 7th July 2004, 4:05 PM

interesting project.
is this going on your AXP?

kayl · 7th July 2004, 4:20 PM

i have 2 cpus to test it with.
one a locked barton XP2500
and a unlocked barton xp2500, this one is the better oc of the two but it really generates a lot of heat.
best so far oc is about 2550 to 2600MHZ except i currently dont have the cooling capacity to run high vcores.

kayl · 9th July 2004, 11:31 PM

today i was trying to braze a brass piece onto my direct die
i eventually accepted that the solder rods i had didnt work with brass
the piece that wasnt taking solder fell onto the ground and i continued to work. i had no shoes on and accidentally stepped on it.
got a nice branding

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cyclonite · 9th July 2004, 11:43 PM

LOL! That's a pretty clear branding. Can see all the fine details

kayl · 10th July 2004, 1:54 AM

guess what
i changed bikes today
i sold my honda cr250cc 1995 for a yamaha wr426 2001
this thing is crazy
i go on presuit for compressors?

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kayl · 10th July 2004, 1:59 AM

and finally the system all up and running
not bad for a 1/6 compressor hey.
all i need to do now is insulate the computer from condensation
and do a final sanding of the direct die block
then i can do some benching finally

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this morning i added some more insulatotion and a tag of gas.
it performed much better, gets to temp way quicker infact this time it went -49.6C then LLLLLLL this temperature gauge has reached its max. well this is sorta depressing not not so much.
these are only unloaded temps and im sure that they wondt be this good once under load.

Kun9FU-L33t · 10th July 2004, 10:41 AM

Looking really good there, Keep up the good work

Silver_Platinum · 10th July 2004, 10:45 AM

Kayl,

Any ideas from where to get a small condensor from, I need one? I know you made yours your self, but I don't have the tools.

-SP

kayl · 11th July 2004, 1:29 AM

Silver_Platinum sorry not really sure thats why i make them too expensive to buy
but im sur if you got a 5,000btu air conditioner and used the condensor out of that would be ok

for a load i used a 80w tec under a 50mmx50mmxx25mm block of copper
it managed to keep at -33c with the tec as the load, then without the load it idled at -48C

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Kommando · 11th July 2004, 6:18 AM

Nice work kayl me man, give Gary Loyld over at xs.org a pm on tweaking the system

kayl · 20th July 2004, 9:46 AM

i had a go at insulating the direct die block, i used roof gutter sealant and some 17mm thick foam.
for the back i used neoprene and a coffee cup coaster as back plate, i hope to use another coaster as the top hold down
just got to wait for the silicone to dry.

getto style all the way

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7th July 2004, 2:51 PM	#1
kayl Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: perth Posts: 1,695	kayls direct die project ok this is the basic outline of the direct die unit that im woking on. Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store for testing reasons i wipped this together to see what its capable of. Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store but for now this is about all this system is good for Click to view full-sized image! __________________ GIG X58-UD5, i7 960 5535 i7950 5352Mhz, Corsair Dominator DDR3 1866Mz C7 GT, GIG GTX280, E8600 6300Mhz Frozen SS Coolers Last edited by kayl; 12th July 2004 at 11:32 AM.

7th July 2004, 2:57 PM	#2
kayl Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: perth Posts: 1,695	for the condensor i hacked up an old condensor out of a air conditioner. its just a tad bigger that a 120mm fan. to make sure it didnt leak i place it into a bucket of water and pressure tested it to 300PSI. Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store ok this is the compressor im using. when its at its coldest temp it is using about 218w. its out of a fridge/freezer, its a r12 comrpessor about a 1/6 HP compressor Click to view full-sized image! [url=http://imagestore.ugbox Last edited by kayl; 12th July 2004 at 11:27 AM.

7th July 2004, 3:08 PM	#3
kayl Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: perth Posts: 1,695	i will be starting with about 7.5 foot of 0.026 cap tube. i will be using a copper spun domestic filture drier for refrigerant i will be using r290 propane, it has a boiling temperature of about-42C. i am baseing my direct die block on this design. except mine will be a 2 layer design. Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store what i will do its cut two of these paper out and glue them on the block. one i will drill the white area the other i will drill the red area Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store this is what im using for refrigerant i have 2 bottles one you use on the BBQ with a adaptor i got from bunnings and a hose which i cut one end off and placed a schraider valve in there, the other a camping gas bottle. both work great Click to view full-sized image! [url=http://imagestore.ugbox.net]Hosted Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Last edited by kayl; 12th July 2004 at 11:33 AM.

7th July 2004, 4:05 PM	#5
ssX Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,404	interesting project. is this going on your AXP? __________________ [SIZE=1]"God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time." - Robin Williams

9th July 2004, 11:31 PM	#7
kayl Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: perth Posts: 1,695	today i was trying to braze a brass piece onto my direct die i eventually accepted that the solder rods i had didnt work with brass the piece that wasnt taking solder fell onto the ground and i continued to work. i had no shoes on and accidentally stepped on it. got a nice branding Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store __________________ GIG X58-UD5, i7 960 5535 i7950 5352Mhz, Corsair Dominator DDR3 1866Mz C7 GT, GIG GTX280, E8600 6300Mhz Frozen SS Coolers

7th July 2004, 3:14 PM	#4
kayl Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: perth Posts: 1,695	and finally my home made vacuum pump. its out of a 8500BTU air conditioner. i reclaimed the r22 and keep that for a rainy day. i might later on try a mix of r290 and r22 to see how that goes. basically all you need out of a air conditioner is the run capacitor and the compressor. i have a schraider valve on both the discharge and the suction line. i can use it to vacuum the systems and pressure test stuff. Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store

7th July 2004, 4:20 PM	#6
kayl Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: perth Posts: 1,695	i have 2 cpus to test it with. one a locked barton XP2500 and a unlocked barton xp2500, this one is the better oc of the two but it really generates a lot of heat. best so far oc is about 2550 to 2600MHZ except i currently dont have the cooling capacity to run high vcores.

9th July 2004, 11:43 PM	#8
cyclonite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South West Sydney Posts: 676	LOL! That's a pretty clear branding. Can see all the fine details __________________ c y c l o n i t e (Blog: Little Harmonic Labyrinth) Workstation=[MacBook Pro, 2.16GHz Core2Duo, 160GB HDD, 2GB DDR2, ATi X1600 128MB, 15.4" Matte, BenQ FP241W, Logitech G5, Altec Lansing FX-6021 Speakers] Server=[Intel Q6600, Asus P5Q, 4GB DDR2 800, GeForce 8400GS, Samsung 2253LW, 2 * WD 500GB SATA, 6 * Samsung 640GB Raid5, Asus DVD-RW, Antec Titan, Corsair HX620]

10th July 2004, 1:54 AM	#9
kayl Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: perth Posts: 1,695	guess what i changed bikes today i sold my honda cr250cc 1995 for a yamaha wr426 2001 this thing is crazy i go on presuit for compressors? Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store

10th July 2004, 1:59 AM	#10
kayl Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: perth Posts: 1,695	and finally the system all up and running not bad for a 1/6 compressor hey. all i need to do now is insulate the computer from condensation and do a final sanding of the direct die block then i can do some benching finally Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store Click to view full-sized image! [url=http://imagestore. this morning i added some more insulatotion and a tag of gas. it performed much better, gets to temp way quicker infact this time it went -49.6C then LLLLLLL this temperature gauge has reached its max. well this is sorta depressing not not so much. these are only unloaded temps and im sure that they wondt be this good once under load. Last edited by kayl; 12th July 2004 at 4:59 PM.

10th July 2004, 10:41 AM	#11
Kun9FU-L33t Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brisbane, QLD Posts: 101	Looking really good there, Keep up the good work __________________ //Kung Dont click this link

10th July 2004, 10:45 AM	#12
Silver_Platinum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mt.Waverley(Vic) Posts: 1,284	Kayl, Any ideas from where to get a small condensor from, I need one? I know you made yours your self, but I don't have the tools. -SP __________________ Silver Platinum "Standing on the defensive indicates insufficient strength; attacking, a superabundance of strength" -Sun Tzu

11th July 2004, 1:29 AM	#13
kayl Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: perth Posts: 1,695	Silver_Platinum sorry not really sure thats why i make them too expensive to buy but im sur if you got a 5,000btu air conditioner and used the condensor out of that would be ok for a load i used a 80w tec under a 50mmx50mmxx25mm block of copper it managed to keep at -33c with the tec as the load, then without the load it idled at -48C Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store

11th July 2004, 6:18 AM	#14
Kommando Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: brisbayne Posts: 3,576	Nice work kayl me man, give Gary Loyld over at xs.org a pm on tweaking the system __________________ this shit's bananas

20th July 2004, 9:46 AM	#15
kayl Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: perth Posts: 1,695	i had a go at insulating the direct die block, i used roof gutter sealant and some 17mm thick foam. for the back i used neoprene and a coffee cup coaster as back plate, i hope to use another coaster as the top hold down just got to wait for the silicone to dry. getto style all the way Click to view full-sized image! Hosted by UGBox Image Store