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Old 6th January 2017, 3:49 PM   #16
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Between 1070 and 1080 performance....pfffft.....green team fan boys will have a cry when this beast comes out.
Now that's clutching at straws, you mean "I hope this thing lives up too expectations ..."

Wasn't the RX480 supposed to beat 1080 for the price of a 1070, or something like that?

All good, I hope AMD do well with this.

Having been away from AMD since R290x, do AMD lock their voltages down like all modern nVidia gpus do? Or will overclockers still have something to tinker with?

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Old 6th January 2017, 4:05 PM   #17
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Between 1070 and 1080 performance....pfffft.....green team fan boys will have a cry when this beast comes out.
When is it coming out again? Meanwhile Nvidia is just raking in that cash.

Vega might be good but after the lulzy fails of bulldozer, their terribad drivers and dismal market share I think I'll reserve judgement until this vapourware becomes a reality.
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Old 6th January 2017, 4:17 PM   #18
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Last 36 hours been a major case of blueballs
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Old 6th January 2017, 4:19 PM   #19
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When is it coming out again? Meanwhile Nvidia is just raking in that cash.

Vega might be good but after the lulzy fails of bulldozer, their terribad drivers and dismal market share I think I'll reserve judgement until this vapourware becomes a reality.

Vega release is scheduled for sometime in first half 2017 and AMD just showcased working silicone so it's not vapourware.
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Old 6th January 2017, 4:23 PM   #20
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They could have had anything in that taped up case, could have been 4x Fury's for all we know ...

Long wait ahead I see ....

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Old 6th January 2017, 4:26 PM   #21
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Vega might be good but after the lulzy fails of bulldozer, their terribad drivers and dismal market share I think I'll reserve judgement until this vapourware becomes a reality.
Their drivers are better now, especially with the ReLive driver package that came out in December. They also do well with Vulkan and DX12 compared to Nvidia.

Nvidia does have the market share at the moment, which is why they can charge a premium for their video cards. Who really wants to pay 1k for a video card?
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Do you think Vega will be under $1000?

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Old 6th January 2017, 6:44 PM   #23
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I must say I was hoping for more, some meat for the bones. Vega could be a quantum leap in consumer GPUs (and according to the team red fanboys it will be) or it could be a me too product playing catch up to Pascal. I hope for a ball buster Vega, it will provide more options, drive competition and ultimately be a winner for consumers.
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I think the only bench we have is 70FPS in Doom with Vulkan at 4k and max settings.

While I have been waiting for Vega. My thoughts can probably be summarised as:
  • HBM2 is still new and most likely still expensive, this could be another Fury which costs as much as the NVidia cards it competes against and just like Fury there may be no point to HBM2 for gaming.
  • Doom with Vulkan is AMDs new AotS, basically it doesn't reflect current gaming
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I think the only bench we have is 70FPS in Doom with Vulkan at 4k and max settings.

While I have been waiting for Vega. My thoughts can probably be summarised as:
  • HBM2 is still new and most likely still expensive, this could be another Fury which costs as much as the NVidia cards it competes against and just like Fury there may be no point to HBM2 for gaming.
  • Doom with Vulkan is AMDs new AotS, basically it doesn't reflect current gaming
HBM is this decade's RDRAM so far
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Do you think Vega will be under $1000?

Im betting around the $700 mark. RX480 was promoted as being for the masses. Theres been no real mention of it being value yet so I'd say they want to price it under NVidias 1080Ti, try for a little better market share but its still going to be a great card for the money really ( @~$700 ) if the final release is polished enough and they nail and send "released to public" drivers for the review samples they send out. People will grab them up I reckon.

Im factoring in also the release of Ryzen and the new motherboards. People will upgrade a complete platform and AMD are targeting that in the revolution marketing campaign so they really do want to meet an overall system pricepoint to encourage people back and away from Intel.


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Do you think Vega will be under $1000?

That's the big question. I assume that's why Nvidia also didn't reveal the 1080Ti, they are waiting to see what AMD has with Vega.
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Given the volatility in our dollar at the moment, I think it's safer to judge prices in USD.
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Im factoring in also the release of Ryzen and the new motherboards. People will upgrade a complete platform and AMD are targeting that in the revolution marketing campaign so they really do want to meet an overall system pricepoint to encourage people back and away from Intel.
That's not going to work without the video card to go with it...
They REALLY need to release then at the same time..
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That's not going to work without the video card to go with it...
They REALLY need to release then at the same time..
I agree that would be the best time, however it will depend on the entire platform cost. If the 4/8 Zen platform is the new mainstream with price to match, the RX480 is great match. the 8/16 zen would be the best pairing for the Vega chip..

Either way, I am hoping AMD hits a few home runs - intel has taken the piss, moved away from Tick Tock philosophy and we have seen little change in processors over the last 3 odd gens aside from the price!
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