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Old 25th April 2016, 12:10 PM   #61
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Legitimately then - why aren't you buying a PC?
I have a gaming PC, I don't use it much cause it's a pain in the arse to play games on compared to the PS4.

You have to put up with Windows and Steam and fuck around with drivers and settings. Compared with just download on PS Store and press X to play. PS4 is just a much nicer overall experience.

Also my PC cost the same as three PS4s.

I don't see why people are upset about this. You can keep your old PS4 and miss out on nothing or spend a little bit of money and get the new PS4 and some better graphics. No-one loses anything here!
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Old 25th April 2016, 4:02 PM   #62
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I don't see why people are upset about this. You can keep your old PS4 and miss out on nothing or spend a little bit of money and get the new PS4 and some better graphics. No-one loses anything here!
Agreed.
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Old 8th September 2016, 7:14 AM   #63
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Lightbulb Sony announces PlayStation 4 Pro with 4K HDR gaming for $399USD



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Sony has officially unveiled the next big iteration of the PlayStation 4. The console — codenamed Neo, which the company discussed in brief just ahead of E3 in June — upgrades the three-year-old PS4 hardware with a faster processor, better graphics, and support for 4K resolution. It launches November 10th, and it will cost $399. It’s intended to be sold alongside the base PS4 instead of replacing it, and new games will still be playable on the older hardware. The existence of Pro, formerly called Neo, was first reported on back in March.

The PS4 Pro can output 4K and HDR video, which is powered by an upgraded GPU. Sonly also boosted the clock rate for the new PS4 Pro. It will also come with a 1TB hard drive. "PS4 Pro is not intended to blur the line between console generations," Mark Cerny, the chief architect for the PS4, said on stage. "Instead, the vision is to take the PS4 experience to extraordinary new levels."
http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/7/127...s-release-date

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4.../1100-6443352/

The full specs of the PS4 Pro can be found below:
•Main processor: Custom-chip single Processor?CPU: x86-64 AMD "Jaguar," 8 cores
?GPU: 4.20 TFLOPS, AMD Radeon™ based graphics engine

•Memory: GDDR5 8GB
•Storage size: 1TB
•External dimensions: Approx. 295×55×327 mm (width × height × length) (excludes largest projection)
•Mass: Approx. 3.3 kg
•BD/DVD Drive: BD × 6 CAV, DVD × 8 CAV
•Input/Output: Super-Speed USB (USB 3.1 Gen.1) port × 3, AUX port × 1
•Networking: Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T)×1, IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Bluetooth® 4.0 (LE)
•Power: AC 100V, 50/60Hz
•Power consumption: Max. 310W
•Operating temp: 5ºC – 35ºC
•AV Output: HDMI out port (supports 4K/HDR) DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) port

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Old 8th September 2016, 7:19 AM   #64
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One thing that needs to be mentioned here is that the PS4 Pro does not support 4K Bluray (UHD) playback.

Seems like a baffling decision on Sony's part for a machine squarely aimed at the 4K market. In the other corner, Microsoft's Xbox One S supports it



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Old 8th September 2016, 7:23 AM   #65
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No 4k Bluray playback is a massive screw up.
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Old 8th September 2016, 7:34 AM   #66
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So it's official - this will be an interesting time.
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Old 8th September 2016, 8:18 AM   #67
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I'm keen to get one. I've always been a late adopter in terms of console and seeing Neo "rumors" creeping up to Christmas, it made me wait. I'll definitely pick up one, not sure what to do with the old PS3 and XB in the lounge, probably will gumtree it.

So $399USD, what's that translate to by the time it hits our shores? $1KAUD?
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I'm keen to get one. I've always been a late adopter in terms of console and seeing Neo "rumors" creeping up to Christmas, it made me wait. I'll definitely pick up one, not sure what to do with the old PS3 and XB in the lounge, probably will gumtree it.

So $399USD, what's that translate to by the time it hits our shores? $1KAUD?
I'd be hoping closer to $600
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No 4k Bluray playback is a massive screw up.
Didn't they invent Bluray? Weird.

I think now my only choice is whether or not to wait and see if prices drop on the old PS4. A 4k HDR TV is soooooo far away for me that it's not worth getting the Pro.
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Old 8th September 2016, 8:43 AM   #70
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I'm keen to get one. I've always been a late adopter in terms of console and seeing Neo "rumors" creeping up to Christmas, it made me wait. I'll definitely pick up one, not sure what to do with the old PS3 and XB in the lounge, probably will gumtree it.

So $399USD, what's that translate to by the time it hits our shores? $1KAUD?
Unless you have a 4k TV with HDR, is there really any point to getting a PS4 Pro?
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$559 at EB Games

https://www.ebgames.com.au/ps4-21724...-PlayStation-4
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Didn't they invent Bluray? Weird.

I think now my only choice is whether or not to wait and see if prices drop on the old PS4. A 4k HDR TV is soooooo far away for me that it's not worth getting the Pro.
I would rather put my money towards a new GPU that can actually handle 4k. The focus on gaming is kind of weird, what happened to versatility.
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Unless you have a 4k TV with HDR, is there really any point to getting a PS4 Pro?
Games.

Don't have a 4K TV... Yet. Anytime soon though. Hopefully this release might help drive prices down. But yes, games. More fps.
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Unless you have a 4k TV with HDR, is there really any point to getting a PS4 Pro?
they've announced other improvements in graphics for lower resolutions (extra effects, etc) and I'd imagine there'd be a nice solid framerate to go with it.

I think we'll get the best idea when it's out, games are out and tech sites start doing comparisons.

One thing I'm concerned about is this really, when you give a developer more grunt they tend to get lazier or push out to those limits. I wonder how Sony will handle devs who do shitty ports that struggle framerate wise on the regular PS4 and slim but run fine on the Pro. (I'm actually thinking specifically here about games like Fallout 4 that have known performance and optimisation issues).

Just imagine a scenario - and this will happen where a dev releases a game, it runs like arse on the current and slim but runs fine on the Pro. This is a scenario that PC gamers are fine with and mobile users deal with but it's going to be a new experience (and a shitty one) for console gamers on the one platform.
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They will release a model with a 4k player close to the time the Scorpio will be released. They are just milking the market and taking advantage of all the fanboys.
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