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Old 20th September 2016, 12:17 PM   #31
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Yes the output of those bad boys is murky. Everything else I run on my trusty little 14" (SMS, SMD, C64, PS1) looks A-OK to me but in saying that I don't think I've ever seen them hooked up with anything fancier than composite, so I'm still comparing it to the RF-only telly I had as a kid.

Ignorance is bliss!
Yeah, if you came from RF, composite is a godsend.
My advice is don't ever try s-video or RGB because then you will embark on a mission to upgrade all your consoles for the best output... and I'm sure you've got enough expensive hobbies already

It's kind of like MIDI music in the old DOS games - growing up I only had a sound blaster with FM, but after I got an LAPC-I and a couple of MIDI devices, I couldn't go back.
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Old 21st September 2016, 7:35 PM   #32
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Moved the GroovyMAME setup from the candy cabinet to my LAI Lowboy. It's running a Kortek KTX-26 monitor and chassis that I reckon has had a squillion hours of operation. When I got it, it had total vertical collapse. A good friend of mine fixed it up (with some assistance from Jomac over in Perth). It's looking pretty good now, even despite a bit of blur (I'll play with the focus a little on the weekend, but I'm not expecting much given it's age).

Anyways, I finally sorted a few issues. Brightness and colours are sorted, and I got rid of the vertical retrace lines that were causing me problems. Sync turned out to be no power to the JPac in the cabinet (I thought it pulled power from the arcade power supply, but it actually pulls power from the PC via the keyboard interface). So with that amplified, things became a lot more stable.

A couple of shots of "Garou: Mark of the Wolves", which IMHO is the prettiest Neo Geo game ever made. Again, focus isn't 100% fixed yet (hopefully I can sort that out on the weekend), but it's looking better than it has in a while.

[edit] Looks like the forum is scaling them. Here's the direct links:

http://i.imgur.com/i6EmzlY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XF7Kjan.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SWPnYXk.jpg
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Old 21st September 2016, 7:55 PM   #33
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I got a couple of RGB cables in the mail today, PS1 and Gamecube.

Lets see if I can get called a hipster for playing Gameboy advance in 240p with scanlines

Hopefully I'll get some time to do some gaming this weekend.

Crappy iPhone 5 pics: http://imgur.com/a/EQ9mp
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Old 21st September 2016, 8:16 PM   #34
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Lets see if I can get called a hipster for playing Gameboy advance in 240p with scanlines
Are you playing via a GBA player for GameCube?

I saw one of those in a Game Traders once for $50. Said to myself "I'll come back for that tomorrow". Gone. Should have bought it on the spot.

How does the scaling go? GBA is an odd resolution (240x160), so it's a non-integer scale up to 240p, and there's semi-widescreen ratio type stuff going on. The Minish Cap image you posted still looks pretty bloody nice though.

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Hopefully I'll get some time to do some gaming this weekend.
I've got a 90s party I'm in several months I'm desperately trying to get as many things working for as possible (the Neo Geo cab is just one of them). No time for play, too many things to fix!
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Old 21st September 2016, 8:41 PM   #35
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Are you playing via a GBA player for GameCube?

I saw one of those in a Game Traders once for $50. Said to myself "I'll come back for that tomorrow". Gone. Should have bought it on the spot.

How does the scaling go? GBA is an odd resolution (240x160), so it's a non-integer scale up to 240p, and there's semi-widescreen ratio type stuff going on. The Minish Cap image you posted still looks pretty bloody nice though.
Yes this is a Gamecube player on a mod chipped PAL gamecube (pal is important here because they output native RGB where the NTSC does not). I've only just got it going but it seems there is quite a bit to the subject of how best to play GBA games on a display. I have actually ordered the new GBA everdrive which inspired me to set this up.

The short of it is that the GBA player needs the official disc to work, the hardware itself is dirt cheap and can be had for under $30 without the disc. Collectors covet the disc because collectors are idiots that aren't interested in actually playing games. The official disc upscales to either 480i or 480p, the later requiring a $300 rare component cable and also adds considerable input lag. Meaning that the official disc isn't ideal for actual gamers.

There are some nice homebrew alternatives including a low latency version of the disc that maintains the original resolution and is the one speedrunners use. Also there are other versions that make various compromises to get a nice balance between look and input delay.

Best read up is here: http://retrorgb.com/gameboyplayer.html and here: http://retrorgb.com/gameboyinterface.html

I'll be the first to admit that it's a bit overkill when you can just emulate. But where is the fun in that?
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Old 21st September 2016, 8:53 PM   #36
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the later requiring a $300 rare component cable
$50 FPGA project that hooks into the GC digital port, available in analogue (component) or digital (HDMI) output:
http://www.badassconsoles.com/gcvideo-1/
https://github.com/ikorb/gcvideo

No more ludicrous eBay prices. Every time hoarder-collectors get screwed over, I cheer a little inside.

[edit] In fact, read the notice on their forsale page:

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BadAss Consoles will always have GCVideo available and for sale. Attempts to price gouge will be futile.

EVERYONE PLEASE PASS THE ABOVE MESSAGE ALONG TO ALL SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS. GET THE WORD OUT: SCALPERS NEED TO STOP TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR COMMUNITY!!
Not all heroes wear capes.

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Old 21st September 2016, 9:12 PM   #37
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$50 FPGA project that hooks into the GC digital port, available in analogue (component) or digital (HDMI) output:
http://www.badassconsoles.com/gcvideo-1/
https://github.com/ikorb/gcvideo

No more ludicrous eBay prices. Every time hoarder-collectors get screwed over, I cheer a little inside.

[edit] In fact, read the notice on their forsale page:

Not all heroes wear capes.
That is pretty cool. Personally for all my 480p Gamecube needs I just use a wii with a $10 Component cable.
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As far as the gba is concerned you can't even say it is for nostalgia or that the games were designed to be viewed that way since the actual gba has a lcd screen and no scanlines. Hipstr. Whats next playstation 4 scanlines?
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Old 21st September 2016, 11:19 PM   #39
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As far as the gba is concerned you can't even say it is for nostalgia or that the games were designed to be viewed that way since the actual gba has a lcd screen and no scanlines. Hipstr. Whats next playstation 4 scanlines?
Dude get over it. I knew my post would bring you out of the woodwork again which is why I wrote it the way I did. If this stuff isn't to your taste there's no need to keep marking snarky remarks.
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Old 22nd September 2016, 4:45 AM   #40
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Meh, the GBA is universally spiritually regarded as the "SNES 2.0". IMHO an LCD screen on that thing is wasted (especially the first model with no backlight), and "consolifying" it is a visually much better way to play it.

Same thing goes for the Game Gear and Lynx. There are active projects to convert all three of these handhelds to console versions for CRT use, and the results posted from all of them so far look amazing (no surprises, given the pixel art).

Speaking for myself, I broke both my thumbs years ago, and playing handhelds for long periods of time hurts due to the awkward spacing of the controls. There's a couple of amazing handheld titles I really want to play end to end (Shantae, G.G. Shinobi, Minish Cap, Ninja Five O, Drill Dozer), and I'm really keen to try them out on consolised hardware hacks with SNES and Megadrive controllers and CRT output.

Same goes for a bunch of these PC indie games. I played AM2R and Mercenary Kings lately, and both are screaming to be played on CRT.
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Speaking for myself, I broke both my thumbs years ago,
OK, you can't drop that and not give us the story.... intense fighting game session, or you owed money to a loanshark?
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Old 22nd September 2016, 6:33 AM   #42
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Meh, the GBA is universally spiritually regarded as the "SNES 2.0". IMHO an LCD screen on that thing is wasted (especially the first model with no backlight), and "consolifying" it is a visually much better way to play it.
It doesn't even matter. Before this thread gets de-railed again, just putting it out there:

This is an enthusiast subforum on an enthusiast site. The GB player is a 13 year old piece of gear for playing games that go back to the 90's. I should be able to post about doing stuff with it here without judgement.

This is the subforum where dudes can post about their 3dfx collection, their period perfect rebuild of their 1999 Pentium 3 rig, their cardboard box collection for old PC games, their old piece of gear they retrobrighted or their Amiga that they have upgraded into a modern functional internet PC. No judgement.
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OK, you can't drop that and not give us the story.... intense fighting game session, or you owed money to a loanshark?
One morning, long ago, final university exam ever (a 3 hour maths exam... ugh) followed by an all day (and well into the evening) drinking session.

Stumbled out of the Indooroopilly pub, found a shopping trolley, rode it all the way down Moggill Road. Hit a bump right at the bottom, fell flat on my face and the bar handle of the shopping trolley shattered both my thumbs.

Couldn't hold a beer for 6 months. Still aches in winter.

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No judgement.
Feel free to judge the story above. I was a young idiot.

But yeah, this is our hobby. If folks don't like it, they're free to find another thread to crap in somewhere else. Scanlines are mucho sexy.

Keep posting those sexy screenshots, folks.
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Yes this is a Gamecube player on a mod chipped PAL gamecube.
I have a player on my original gamecube from back in the day with a viperGC chip and one of the replacement lids to accept full size dvds

my loung room LCD tv has component in rather than RGB so I use an extra scart to component adapter and the tv does do a rather terrible job of 240p but even with all that its a great way to play gba games.

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I got a couple of RGB cables in the mail today, PS1 and Gamecube.

Lets see if I can get called a hipster for playing Gameboy advance in 240p with scanlines
Scanlines are like bacon, everything tastes better with bacon

Those images look lovely.
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