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Old 18th June 2017, 2:03 PM   #2161
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Doesnt the rampage v extreme have that configuration...

Lucky it was a popular board .... And not too uncommon... But expensive...
I have managed to buy all of mine second hand...
Unfortunately no... here's the relevant notes from the specs:

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3. The PCIE_X4_1 (gray) slot shares bandwidth with the PCIE_X1_1 slot, USB3_E910 and SATAExpress_E1 connector. When the PCIE_X4_1 slot is occupied by an X1 or X2 device, the SATAEXPRESS_E1 will be disabled. When the PCIE_X4_1 slot is occupied by X4 device, the SATAEXPRESS_E1, USB3_E910 ports, and the PCIE_X1_1 slot will be disabled.
So while I could restrict my 10gigE NIC to PCIe x2, it'd gimp performance. Although maybe PCIe x2 is enough for a single 10gigE link?

Also, the other reason for considering the EVGA boards is they're available on Amazon and Newegg with shipping to Australia and didn't seem too bad price wise last time I checked.
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Old 18th June 2017, 4:24 PM   #2162
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hmmm..

the asus X99-deluxe.. fulfills your requirements.. but the slot spacing isn't ideal...

https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards...pecifications/

obviously the Asus workstation boards should work..
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Old 18th June 2017, 9:43 PM   #2163
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hmmm..

the asus X99-deluxe.. fulfills your requirements.. but the slot spacing isn't ideal...

https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards...pecifications/

obviously the Asus workstation boards should work..
Unfortunately the only WS boards ASUS made come with PLX chips which bumps up the price... for example:
https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/X99E_WS/
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https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/X99-E-10G-WS/

I really wish they had an X99 equivalent to the P9X79 WS as that board has a perfect slot layout for my uses.

I suppose I could get away with using risers with the X99 Deluxe... I've used risers before and they work fine, even with up to 4 GPUs in SLI so it's definitely an option
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Old 18th June 2017, 10:36 PM   #2164
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Unfortunately the only WS boards ASUS made come with PLX chips which bumps up the price... for example:
https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/X99E_WS/
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https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/X99-E-10G-WS/

I really wish they had an X99 equivalent to the P9X79 WS as that board has a perfect slot layout for my uses.

I suppose I could get away with using risers with the X99 Deluxe... I've used risers before and they work fine, even with up to 4 GPUs in SLI so it's definitely an option
Right right right, starting to get a better picture of this now, and I can see where you're coming from in terms of your requirements.

Good luck with that
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Old 19th June 2017, 5:45 PM   #2165
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Right right right, starting to get a better picture of this now, and I can see where you're coming from in terms of your requirements.

Good luck with that
My requirements aren't that bad

Like I said, X99 Classified or X99 FTW K would be great without breaking the bank ($320 for the FTW K, $473 for the Classy). Plus the 6850K has now dropped due to X299 and Ryzen.

Anyway... maybe when X299 & Threadripper come out I'll be able to grab a bargain on the forum
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Old 19th June 2017, 8:36 PM   #2166
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The 6850K is currently 535 including postage until tonight on eBay computer alliance ...

Very few people went broadwell EP ... Given the ridiculous pricing ... And minimal speed increase over haswell EP ... Do I don't think there will be a flood of secondhand CPUs ... Plus skylake and kabylake were so much better at gaming ...

I think the broadwell EP stuff will be as rare as the ivybridge EP CPUs are at the moment...

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My requirements aren't that bad

Like I said, X99 Classified or X99 FTW K would be great without breaking the bank ($320 for the FTW K, $473 for the Classy). Plus the 6850K has now dropped due to X299 and Ryzen.

Anyway... maybe when X299 & Threadripper come out I'll be able to grab a bargain on the forum

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Old 19th June 2017, 8:46 PM   #2167
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The 6850x is currently 535 including postage until tonight on eBay computer alliance ...
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The 6850x is currently 535 including postage until tonight on eBay computer alliance ...

Very few people went broadwell EP ... Given the ridiculous pricing ... And minimal speed increase over haswell EP ... Do I don't think there will be a flood of secondhand CPUs ... Plus skylake and kabylake were so much better at gaming ...

I think the broadwell EP stuff will be as rare as the ivybridge EP CPUs are at the moment...
Also I think... COUNT20 on eBay will get you $20 off that price until 22/6

Edit: just checked, for me it's still $649 and it's a 6850K, for a second there I thought I was going to be buying to some widely unknown 8-core or 10-core chip to replace my 5930K
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Old 19th June 2017, 10:31 PM   #2169
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Sorry typo.. it is off course a 6850K

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/313803

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/313789
valid for a few days.. but expect CPU to be sold out.. just the the 6800K and 7700Ks have all gone now..




dont forget 15% off everything on ebay will midnight...

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/313791

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Well my X79 build is about to get Extra Spicy...

Just how spicy? Well, we'll see

Just bought one of these:

http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/QE/QE83.html

Various sources claim it has an unlocked multi, although there is no hard proof.

I have found two "screenshots" of it and neither of them suggest it is unlocked, but I don't trust the screenshots:

1) because they both show "Xeon E5 2687W v2" in the CPU-Z title, and all the ES chips I've tried so far only show "Intel Xeon E5" or "Intel Xeon E5 v2", never a model number and

2) they seem to be the exact same CPU (same R1 revision, same Ext. Model, same stepping etc) yet they have different max multipliers...

Either way, it was $250 AU incl post and it's basically an i7-4960X, it's at least 3.4 with 3.7 ~turbo? Not sure if that 37x multi is across all cores or just a couple.

Anyway, to me it looks more like a 4960X with a slightly lower clock (typical of ES chips?) than an actual E5-2687W v2 with less cores? I guess they're fairly similar...

It was either this or an E5-2643 v2 ES QD2H, similar price, which might have a slightly higher multi (38x) but less cache (12M)- and so far my experience says the chips with the greater cache per core tend to be the ones with more PCI-E lanes and in general just better

Anyway, I'll report back once it gets here.

Fun fact: it's basically the same on paper as my 5930K, both 22nm, slightly different clocks and obviously the DDR4 thang... but still... $250

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Here are the two screenshots I was referring to:



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according to passmark it doesn't seem that much better than the 2670s at stock so hopefully you can OC it ok. keen to hear how it goes.
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according to passmark it doesn't seem that much better than the 2670s at stock so hopefully you can OC it ok. keen to hear how it goes.
Yeah well at base clocks

2.6 x 8 cores = 20.8 "theoretical" GHz at your disposal

3.4 x 6 cores = 20.4

But there's "proper" PCI-E 3.0 and DDR3-1866 support and that slight chance of the unlocked multi so I'll take the chance

Also I don't really trust PassMark, some of their GPU hierarchy seems way off compared to charts on other review sites and even compared to my experience with using many GPUs.

Once it arrives I'll run Cinebench on all my gear and report back.
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surely this would work out better.. (other than the cache size)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Intel-Cor...UAAOSwCkZZSftT

The xeon version of the 4930K and should also be unlocked..
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surely this would work out better.. (other than the cache size)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Intel-Cor...UAAOSwCkZZSftT

The xeon version of the 4930K and should also be unlocked..
Yep. Totally would've been better. Ffs lol. Dunno how I missed that. I looked for a 1660 v2 and then somehow got onto the 4960X then somehow ended up in ES territory

Ah well, if this isn't unlocked, I'll stick it in the Asus board and try out a 1650 instead

I wonder if that listing was even up the other night... I distinctly remember a pair of 1660s for > 1k but I don't remember there being any other 16x0 v2 chips < $400

Gah and that's retail too
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There was a small pile of E5-1650V2 in sydney for around $220 a piece about 2 months ago.. Looked like a mac dealer had upgraded a bunch of machines.. I just couldn't be bothered at that time..

edit here is the completed listing.. from last month..

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Intel-Xeo...IAAOSw~AVYqqs6


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Yep. Totally would've been better. Ffs lol. Dunno how I missed that. I looked for a 1660 v2 and then somehow got onto the 4960X then somehow ended up in ES territory

Ah well, if this isn't unlocked, I'll stick it in the Asus board and try out a 1650 instead

I wonder if that listing was even up the other night... I distinctly remember a pair of 1660s for > 1k but I don't remember there being any other 16x0 v2 chips < $400

Gah and that's retail too
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