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Old 2nd November 2009, 6:22 AM   #31
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you both missed the point.
the OP is on an SSD, he needs two SSD trim tools, not defrag tools.
This. Why is there even a discussion about defraging, when his original post mentioned he has SSD.

The only thing it's going to accomplish is shortening the life of the drive. Win 7 purposely disables defrag if it detects an SSD: http://apcmag.com/windows_7_gets_ssdfriendly.htm

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Old 2nd November 2009, 6:49 AM   #32
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Old 2nd November 2009, 6:57 AM   #33
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This. Why is there even a discussion about defraging, when his original post mentioned he has SSD.

The only thing it's going to accomplish is shortening the life of the drive. Win 7 purposely disables defrag if it detects an SSD: http://apcmag.com/windows_7_gets_ssdfriendly.htm
This question is answered already if you take the time to read before posting. The guides are for more than just the OP.
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Old 2nd November 2009, 8:46 AM   #34
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OP disable full screen logo shadow from your Advanced bios features.
also in the same page, Make sure the HDD delay is set to 0


Here is a bios simulation for the EX58-Extreme.


you need to tell us what speed your ram is, weather its XMP and weather you've selected the correct XMP for its rated speed.

Now before you get back to me about that, if your not using the White sata sockets on your mobo, then under Integrated Peripherals go down to the Onboard Sata/Ide device and set it to Disabled. If you are using it, i suggest you don't either way, stick to blue sockets which run on the (intel) south-bridge and not on a separate jmicron controller.

also, in Integrated peripherals, if you have left everything else all default then it should be optimized, otherwise if you've turned on boot from lan or anything like that turn it back off.

With those settings and the correct XMP selected, it should post very fast, my 920 EX58-UD5 posts in roughly 3 seconds.
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Old 2nd November 2009, 9:48 AM   #35
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This question is answered already if you take the time to read before posting. The guides are for more than just the OP.
Oh I read the thread, which turned into a pissing contest about defragging after you suggested it on page 1, when it's a complete non-issue for SSDs. You may have warned about defragging on SSDs, but when everyone got sidetracked by the idea, qwertylesh raised this point again and nobody seemed to pay attention.

You also mentioned that AVG was a "mistake" and that it hogs system resources, which is certainly not what I've experienced.
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Old 2nd November 2009, 4:40 PM   #36
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OP disable full screen logo shadow from your Advanced bios features.
also in the same page, Make sure the HDD delay is set to 0


Here is a bios simulation for the EX58-Extreme.


you need to tell us what speed your ram is, weather its XMP and weather you've selected the correct XMP for its rated speed.

Now before you get back to me about that, if your not using the White sata sockets on your mobo, then under Integrated Peripherals go down to the Onboard Sata/Ide device and set it to Disabled. If you are using it, i suggest you don't either way, stick to blue sockets which run on the (intel) south-bridge and not on a separate jmicron controller.

also, in Integrated peripherals, if you have left everything else all default then it should be optimized, otherwise if you've turned on boot from lan or anything like that turn it back off.

With those settings and the correct XMP selected, it should post very fast, my 920 EX58-UD5 posts in roughly 3 seconds.
Ok ive disabled onboard sate/ide device now

Extreme Memory Profile (x.m.p) disabled
System memory multiplyier (spd) auto
memory frequency (mhz) 1066 1066
DRAM Timing selectable (spd) auto


how do they look ?

one more thing hdd smart capabilty disabled or enabled ?
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Old 3rd November 2009, 6:35 PM   #37
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Threads gone quite now ?

Would doing a hardware upgrade speed up the process like swapping to say an asus board that has quick boot option or upgrading to better qaulity ram. At the moment i have

OCZ DDR3 PC3-10666 / 1333MHz / Intel Core i7 Edition

thinking of swapping to these for abit of a boost

G.Skill Trident

What are peoplees thoughts also people with i7 920s how long does your pc take from time you press button to ready to go loaded.
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Old 3rd November 2009, 11:29 PM   #38
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No. you dont need new hardware.
setup the XMP to run the ram at its rated speed for one.
SMART wont slow down the POST time.
just setup your system properly and it wont take 20 seconds for it to start booting Windows.
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No. you dont need new hardware.
setup the XMP to run the ram at its rated speed for one.
SMART wont slow down the POST time.
just setup your system properly and it wont take 20 seconds for it to start booting Windows.
Extreme Memory Profile (x.m.p) Thats changing it from disabled to profile 1 or 2 yeah.
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No. you dont need new hardware.
setup the XMP to run the ram at its rated speed for one.
SMART wont slow down the POST time.
just setup your system properly and it wont take 20 seconds for it to start booting Windows.
also is it better to have smart hdd on or off
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Old 4th November 2009, 2:56 PM   #41
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its better to have it on.
it will tell you if theres ever a serious fault with your disk, and it doesnt startup time.

I setup an XMP system yet, so I cant say which number you have to set. If you try both and see which one runs at 1333 (assuming your ram is 1333) then thats the one to choose, its harmless to select one then the other in the bios to find out since the actual setting isnt applied until you save and exit, so figure that one out yourself, its plain and simple.
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Ok from press of power button 17 secs is when monitor switches on from standby, 24 sec windows starts to load then at 45 sec its ready to go.

i think the ram xmp thing did the trick.



how does this look ?
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It looks ok, Just make sure that the dram voltage is not running above 1.65volts.

To check, you can go into your bios and under pc health you'll see what the dram voltage is set to, if its running above 1.65 volts set it manually to 1.64 volts asap.
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It looks ok, Just make sure that the dram voltage is not running above 1.65volts.

To check, you can go into your bios and under pc health you'll see what the dram voltage is set to, if its running above 1.65 volts set it manually to 1.64 volts asap.
dram voltage is set to 1.500v (auto) should i up it manually to 1.64 ?

also have the preformance enhace its set on turbo can it be swapped to extreme ?
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to start with I always use a very back to basics approach, cleaning the temp files, uninstalling bloated spyware and anti virus, defragging registry and compressing it, disabling prefetch and deleting all prefetch, then I remember a tool available thru microsoft, its called bootvis, you can basically set the system to restart thru bootvis and bootvis will log everything that happens on your computer from the time it starts shutting down to the point it pops out a time line log chart on your desktop upon restart which will give you quite a good idea as to where actually more time is consumed while booting.

To uninstall softwares, I use a combination of a freeware called revo uninstaller and cc cleaner

To remove redundant drivers I use another freeware called driver sweeper

Another thing I frequently use to tweak performance is a freeware called Cacheman

Now keep in mind that all this is software experiments and suggestions is of XP era

I'm yet to try Win 7
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