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Old 12th August 2017, 9:01 PM   #136
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Hmm just bought a 6850k 6 core upgrade from x58, aside from higher L3 cache, do i have any advantages over this?
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Old 12th August 2017, 9:58 PM   #137
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Hmm just bought a 6850k 6 core upgrade from x58, aside from higher L3 cache, do i have any advantages over this?
More PCI-E lanes, if that matters....
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Old 12th August 2017, 10:07 PM   #138
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Humm I sense an upgrade coming along if this is true.. source



My 3960x scores 1704 for single core and 10663 for multi @ 4.5ghz

8700k is same per-core as 7700k yet hex-core.. ultimate gamer + 2 extra threads for streaming, rendering etc..

I just don't see enough per-core perf from Zen & I cant go backwards in cores for upgrade (even though 7700k would game quite a bit better then my 3960x)
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Old 12th August 2017, 10:25 PM   #139
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Yeah, it will fairly easily take the gamers cpu crown. Only thing that may make it stumble a bit is increase L3 latencies, but honestly, I think it'll be outweighed by 2 extra phy cores.

That said, its' possible the 8xxx i5 - an equivalent of the current 7700k will become the new '2500k / 6600k' midrange gamer champion. You'll essentially be getting a 7700k, with potentially higher overclocking potential (lower bin, but a 14nm++ process) , but for less money.

This will be welcome I think, because current 4c/4t i5's just don't quite cut it in current games.
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Old 12th August 2017, 11:10 PM   #140
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My 3960x scores 1704 for single core and 10663 for multi @ 4.5ghz

8700k is same per-core as 7700k yet hex-core.. ultimate gamer + 2 extra threads for streaming, rendering etc..

I just don't see enough per-core perf from Zen & I cant go backwards in cores for upgrade (even though 7700k would game quite a bit better then my 3960x)
I am in the same predicament.
3930K still performs admirably.

Coffee lake should bring our CPU's performance into the mainstream finally on the Intel side.
AMD is already there... It's only taken over half a decade for this to finally happen.

Not sure which way to go yet though...
At the very least I am hoping a 6-core coffee lake affects the pricing on the LGA2066 processors as it should erode on the bottom end of that market... And threadripper is applying pressure on the top end of that market.

Ideally would want a minimum of 8 cores. Preferably 10-12 to last the long haul though. Just waiting on market reactions before making a move.
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Old 12th August 2017, 11:44 PM   #141
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Yeah, it will fairly easily take the gamers cpu crown. Only thing that may make it stumble a bit is increase L3 latencies, but honestly, I think it'll be outweighed by 2 extra phy cores.

That said, its' possible the 8xxx i5 - an equivalent of the current 7700k will become the new '2500k / 6600k' midrange gamer champion. You'll essentially be getting a 7700k, with potentially higher overclocking potential (lower bin, but a 14nm++ process) , but for less money.

This will be welcome I think, because current 4c/4t i5's just don't quite cut it in current games.
didnt even think of the i5's they will be great value now..


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I am in the same predicament.
3930K still performs admirably.

Coffee lake should bring our CPU's performance into the mainstream finally on the Intel side.
AMD is already there... It's only taken over half a decade for this to finally happen.

Not sure which way to go yet though...
At the very least I am hoping a 6-core coffee lake affects the pricing on the LGA2066 processors as it should erode on the bottom end of that market... And threadripper is applying pressure on the top end of that market.

Ideally would want a minimum of 8 cores. Preferably 10-12 to last the long haul though. Just waiting on market reactions before making a move.
AMD is there but their per-core perf sux, only bummer of a thing about zen.

I am happy to stick to 6 core as a gamer for the most part.

Be nice to inherit a shit load of new chipset features, notably DDR4 & M.2 but I will be going from quad-channel to dual-channel but faster anyway (just seems a downgrade :P)

Shame only 24 pci-e lanes but I think my SLI days are done and dusted..
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Old 13th August 2017, 1:00 AM   #142
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hmmm is the i3-8350K interesting..

Quad Core - 8 thread unlocked.. 4.0ghz base clock...

basically an 7700K equivalent disguised as an i3...

if its priced. like a 7350K... ie around $220-$250,

surely this will be the new gamers' cpu...
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Not sure if either of the i3 specs are real. The source was pretty shady iirc
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Old 13th August 2017, 11:28 AM   #144
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We can live in hope...

Intel did gift us the Pentium G4560... so anything is possible....

the chart also suggest the Quad core units use the PCH200 series...
which raises the possibility of current Motherboards supporting it....

which is kind of weird.. but makes sense technically...


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AMD is there but their per-core perf sux, only bummer of a thing about zen.
Yeah. But if you can get a 16-core AMD over a 10-core Intel and can make use of all those cores... That is some damn good pressure AMD is applying.
Single threaded performance is less of an issue in those scenarios.

6-core coffee lake should make the i5 7640X, i7 7740X and i7 7800X fairly pointless from a price/performance/power standpoint.
So I would expect the 7820X and 7900X to drop downwards in price brackets.

And hopefully we can finally place dual core chips to rest, it has been a long time coming. Haha
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Old 14th August 2017, 9:17 AM   #146
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Isn't there a hardcore guy here who works at a retailer and kinda posts in threads when he gets new CPUs? Pretty sure he posted when he got a Kaby lake in a few days before? Anyone know who it is?
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Isn't there a hardcore guy here who works at a retailer and kinda posts in threads when he gets new CPUs? Pretty sure he posted when he got a Kaby lake in a few days before? Anyone know who it is?
Announcement is 21st, no stock to land for quite some time. Disty are already up in arms since there is a lot of 7th Gen stock sitting warehouses all over the country.
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Announcement is 21st, no stock to land for quite some time. Disty are already up in arms since there is a lot of 7th Gen stock sitting warehouses all over the country.
yeah I gotta feeling they will charge a premium over the 7700K if only to enable them to keep selling the kaby lake i7s. Which will mean its HEDT pricing for the CPU
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Announcement is 21st, no stock to land for quite some time. Disty are already up in arms since there is a lot of 7th Gen stock sitting warehouses all over the country.
Understandable - where you getting your info?
Might explain the 7700k price drops on NewEgg and Amazon for over 4 weeks now (only $20 or $30 but still, for intel chips, rare)
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yeah I gotta feeling they will charge a premium over the 7700K if only to enable them to keep selling the kaby lake i7s. Which will mean its HEDT pricing for the CPU
Ugh
and you're probably right >

I'm very tempted to ignore the 8700k until the "real" chipset is released in early 2018 anyhow.
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