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Old 11th May 2017, 10:30 AM   #16
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What is a Tensor core?
Looks like another type of stream processor (like cuda), probably optimised for their deep learning stuff.
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Old 11th May 2017, 11:37 AM   #17
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What is a Tensor core?
Read the link and it will tell you
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Old 11th May 2017, 12:55 PM   #18
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Intersting this is coming out in Q3, possibly so they can see how yields are on this huge chip and give TSMC chance to refine before commencing any consumer volta on 12nm. Recall that the pascal referesh with minor clock boosts is out later in the year.

I'd bet the consumer cards won't have any of the tensor cores, way cut down FP64 and INT, halving the die space per SM unit. I'd like to see consumer volta do 2xFP16 that the ps4 pro and vega can do, but I'll guess nvidia won't unfortunately. I'd suspect the top consumer volta to be around similar CUDA counts perhaps slightly higher clocked, 15-17tflops of FP32 at a guess.
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Old 11th May 2017, 1:56 PM   #19
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Old 11th May 2017, 2:21 PM   #20
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Interesting point from the Anandtech article in op.

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The company is not discussing chip yields at this time, but such a large chip is going to yield very poorly, especially on the new 12nm FFN process. NVIDIA is going to be sacrificing a lot of silicon for a relatively small number of good chips, just so that they can sell them to eager customers who are going to pay better than $15K/chip. This is how badly NVIDIA’s customers want more powerful GPUs, and how hard NVIDIA is going to push the limits of modern fab technology to deliver it.
Guess that's why the Volta DGX-1 supercomputer costs 150k.

https://www.arnnet.com.au/article/61...x/?fp=2&fpid=1
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Old 11th May 2017, 2:47 PM   #21
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In the article linked in the OP it also suggests that even the detailed one isn't the full fat chip so they're still saving a little bit extra for later... crazy.
I don't think they are saving anything. Its probably necessary to get any sort of yield based on the die size and manufacturing process. Will be nice though when/if yields do manage to pump out a "full" monster. Lets wait and see what the consumer card may look like =)
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Again keep in mind this is the datacenter version, with FP64/INT/Tensor units the consumer version doesn't have to have. So down the track they could release a consumer version with more cuda cores overall than this one, similar to the titan Xp having 3840 cores vs 3584 for the GP100. This might be what anandtech were referring to as not the full fat chip (from a consumer perspective only).
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Again keep in mind this is the datacenter version, with FP64/INT/Tensor units the consumer version doesn't have to have. So down the track they could release a consumer version with more cuda cores overall than this one, similar to the titan Xp having 3840 cores vs 3584 for the GP100. This might be what anandtech were referring to as not the full fat chip (from a consumer perspective only).
This is more or less the line I was referring to

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The first product to use the GV100 GPU is in turn the aptly named Tesla V100. Like its P100 predecessor, this is a not-quite-fully-enabled GV100 configuration. Overall, only 80 of 84 SMs are enabled for yield reasons.
Approx 5% change
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Ahh good point I missed that bit. 5% that's nothing though for performance, can't see them releasing a full 84 unit GV100, this massive die will always have low yields so allowing for up to 4 defective units will help with that.
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Nvidia's said at the reveal of volta yesterday they are not worried about AMD or VEGA

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57489/...ega/index.html

saying the competitive advantage won't change. Maybe they do have plans to accelerate the release date of consumer version f Volta as well.
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Nvidia's said at the reveal of volta yesterday they are not worried about AMD or VEGA

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57489/...ega/index.html

saying the competitive advantage won't change. Maybe they do have plans to accelerate the release date of consumer version f Volta as well.
Should never listen to what company CEO's say about others in the market. What did you expect him to say?

"Oh shit, Vega looks sick man, we are screwed so here is new stuff"

It's just like if you ask Intel right now, they aren't going to tell you they are worried about AMD either.
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I don't think NVIDIA have any reason to be worried, even if vega went gangbusters people would still buy their products (see: fermi) and I'm sure they have a very healthy margin built in already. Same for intel re: ryzen.
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Gamers Nexus video re the spec release

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