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Old 17th May 2017, 8:55 PM   #61
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We mount and share ours, but they're read only at the filesystem layer. Note even "root" is allowed to write to them.

Having them available to users removes a tonne of IT overhead. Although with that said, even after having been shown several times, there are still notable users who can't figure it out and need IT to restore files for them. But whatever, they're "high effort" users for a bunch of other reasons too, not just storage.

If an entire volume got wrecked, we'd restore the entire thing at the storage side (obviously *after* figuring out who/what wrecked it). So far it's just some user who accidentally deleted/changed something and needed to undo it, and typically a single file at a time.
This is one thing Windows does well out of the box.

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Until the malware deletes your shadow copies before it starts encrypting your files.
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Until the malware deletes your shadow copies before it starts encrypting your files.
only if your stupid enough to run it on the server as an admin.

I don't care if jo blow home user loses his shit because vss is wrecked on windows 10 home, but there will be hell to pay if someone made vss accessible to a user on server 2k16.
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only if your stupid enough to run it on the server as an admin.



I don't care if jo blow home user loses his shit because vss is wrecked on windows 10 home, but there will be hell to pay if someone made vss accessible to a user on server 2k16.

Or until an exploit comes along and allows remote code execution at the system level?
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On the client side yes Windows is neat like that.... On the server side - Our Solaris ZFS file ferver is configured to expose snapshots in this exact same form (i.e. i can browse a share and see the 'previous versions' in windows)... works well.
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I wouldn't say "out of the box". It needs to be configured to work well with centralised storage in a multi user environment.

If you're using Samba as your file server, there's a VFS "plugin" included with the default install that you can turn on and offer this to all your client machines:
https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man...w_copy2.8.html

How you snapshot on the storage is up to you. You can use LVM, BtrFS, ZFS, or even just something like rsnapshot with clever hardlinks.

The way we snapshot isn't exposed via Windows "previous versions", but rather just a sub-share that is read only (at the filesystem/OS layer, not just the share layer, so again even root/admin can't write to it) under the primary share via some ZFS mount magic, and users can just browse down to pick their versions and see folders at that given time.

It would be nice to integrate it better in to both Windows "previous versions" and MacOS "Time Machine", but that's a lot of effort for just a bit of prettiness, when the users are generally clever enough to find old versions of files anyway.
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previous versions "just worked" for me on Samba.

But I could only attach it to one particular schedule of snap's.

eh.

every 15 minutes for the last 4 weeks is enough.
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