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Old 23rd August 2010, 6:28 PM   #751
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Gibson screws cost (with strap buttons too):

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-Gibson-Br...s#ht_500wt_928
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Old 23rd August 2010, 6:33 PM   #752
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Gibson screws cost (with strap buttons too):

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-Gibson-Br...s#ht_500wt_928
pick guard screws

but i found some - pack of 12 for 4.95. only need 2, and need to spend a certain amount for the minimum order & shipping etc. oh well. ordered
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Old 23rd August 2010, 6:50 PM   #753
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A mate of mine has one of these http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Elec...ck-Beauty.aspx

It's every guitar heads wet dream, it looks and plays beautifully. Is it worth a bazillion more than my guitar? Ah, no, but if I was in the position to spend that much on a guitar, I would buy one tomorrow.
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Old 23rd August 2010, 6:51 PM   #754
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speaking of pick guards... is there any reason not to use aluminium or something for one?

That way it wouldn't scratch so easily (my plastic one has some big scratches on it) and you'd be way more brutal
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Old 23rd August 2010, 7:06 PM   #755
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A mate of mine has one of these http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Elec...ck-Beauty.aspx

It's every guitar heads wet dream, it looks and plays beautifully. Is it worth a bazillion more than my guitar? Ah, no, but if I was in the position to spend that much on a guitar, I would buy one tomorrow.
Only problem with it is... Its black :P

Now if it was a nice white or yellow with a flame top...
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Old 23rd August 2010, 7:12 PM   #756
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Weird old Yamaha SGs of the day:



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Old 23rd August 2010, 7:19 PM   #757
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I love the look of 'em.

Doesn't Yamaha still make SG's that have the same chunky look?
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Old 23rd August 2010, 9:31 PM   #758
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The old SGx000 line is still trucking, but they're more of a double-cut LP.

http://www.yamaha.com/guitars/electr...&CNTYP=PRODUCT
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Old 24th August 2010, 8:24 AM   #759
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/me looks at his collection of cheep guitars that play as good as more expensive ones.
Depends on what expensive ones you're comparing to. Making a guitar that "plays good" isn't really the priority for a lot of expensive guitars, e.g. Les Pauls - in terms of overall feeling I'd be just as happy playing an Epiphone Special - feels just as good in my hands, and virtually the same to play (sound aside).

That's not to say that money couldn't get you something superior (for a given value of superior).
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I've always wondered this (although it is relative, coz I'd pay $1000 for a beater) but I've always wondered what I would do with a $4k plus guitar, like if I ever got a Fender Custom Shop built to my own specs, or a JS2400 or something equally shmick. Dare I even play it? Dare I scratch it? Or should I play it exclusively and try and get my moneys worth.
Diminishing returns kicks in once you get above budget guitars anyway - that's inevitable. The question for the individual is, where do you draw the line?

I've always held to the principle that my involvement with guitars is as a player of the things. I don't collect things or hang shiny things on my wall, I'm not an aspiring home gallery owner. 30 seconds of ripping out an awesome solo - unplugged on an electric if need be, I don't give a shit - gives me so much more satisfaction than 30 days of fucking around with gear and whatnot.
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Well my first thought for the ~$4k LTD i have was - get my moneys worth out of it. Then one day I was stoned and bashed the crap out of it on my desk, chipping off a bit of paint on the back.
That happened to my first good guitar - about 20 times, over the years. After worrying about the first few, I eventually realised it really makes no difference to anything I consider important. I bought the guitar, for my use, to play - not to be it's indentured slave for the rest of it's life, carefully carrying it around with velvet gloves and worshipping it like some kind of shrine, giving it a metro makeover every week. Who's the real owner here?
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That happened to my first good guitar - about 20 times, over the years. After worrying about the first few, I eventually realised it really makes no difference to anything I consider important. I bought the guitar, for my use, to play - not to be it's indentured slave for the rest of it's life, carefully carrying it around with velvet gloves and worshipping it like some kind of shrine, giving it a metro makeover every week. Who's the real owner here?
Guitars are meant to be played. As part of playing, dings, scratches, and knocks occur. It is unavoidable.

A guitar that's not being played is a unhappy guitar.
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Old 24th August 2010, 8:46 AM   #761
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It's every guitar heads wet dream, it looks and plays beautifully. Is it worth a bazillion more than my guitar? Ah, no, but if I was in the position to spend that much on a guitar, I would buy one tomorrow.
You know, if I won tattslotto today, I still don't think I'd buy that guitar. I don't know what I'd buy but the LP has never done anything for me. Would I spend $4k... dunno. My Agile is my most expensive guitar but still just a touch under $1k. I reckon I'd go to $2k, maybe. I can feel a difference between the Agile (cheap), Kramer (cheaper), and the Casino (cheapest). I'm going to have to grab a $4k guitar one of these days and see if I have to cover my groin afterwards.

Shock and horror - Kramers are actually listed on Gibson's website in their product section. There's a first.
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Old 24th August 2010, 8:57 AM   #762
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How much do you think Gibson are going to charge for the '74 Custom reissue Randy Rhoads model they are bringing out? Their pricing is seriously off the chart, as are some of the models they're coming out with.. A guy at work was telling me that they are bring out a signature guitar of a collector. Bizarre.
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Old 24th August 2010, 8:59 AM   #763
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I'm of the opinion that customizing your own guitar is the best value for money, if you are adventurous enough to try soldering (which is piss easy on a guitar) you can turn a cheap one into an awesome guitar.

And Brian May played on a homemade guitar that sounded pretty sweet.
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Old 24th August 2010, 9:02 AM   #764
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You know, if I won tattslotto today, I still don't think I'd buy that guitar. I don't know what I'd buy but the LP has never done anything for me. Would I spend $4k... dunno. My Agile is my most expensive guitar but still just a touch under $1k. I reckon I'd go to $2k, maybe. I can feel a difference between the Agile (cheap), Kramer (cheaper), and the Casino (cheapest). I'm going to have to grab a $4k guitar one of these days and see if I have to cover my groin afterwards.
I have little doubt that there exist 4K guitars that would indeed require post-playing groin coverage, but there are certainly plenty of 4K guitars out there that suck too.

Diminishing returns though. Take a decent example of a 2K built-for-playability MIJ shred guitar, it's already going to be 95% as good as it's possible to be (playability-wise). You might spend double that, and you'll be paying for a nicer looking finish/patterned top and so-called higher quality woods and brand name pickups as stock, or some guy's signature on the headstock. It won't play much better, because most of those things do exactly zero for the feel/playability of the guitar, though you certainly pay a premium for them.

For me, about 2K is where my line is drawn - be it new, or secondhand. I see (and have experienced, for many years) quality in those guitars that makes it worthwhile to me, over and above cheaper guitars. I've seen a beautifully finished J-Custom through-neck mahogany Ibanez with Dimarzios and a piezo-equipped Lo-Pro for 2K (second hand). Can't say I could want more than something like that.
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Old 24th August 2010, 10:19 AM   #765
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Their pricing is seriously off the chart, as are some of the models they're coming out with.. A guy at work was telling me that they are bring out a signature guitar of a collector. Bizarre.
You might recall that this madness all started with the Kiefer Sutherland sig 335.
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