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Old 22nd March 2013, 4:45 PM   #106
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I started off with the UK as my eyes shot directly to the Mustang when I was browsing the research trees. Flying a bi-plane in battle is like bringing a knife to a gun fight
You picked the nation with the absolute worst starter planes. It gets better though.

Pick up the Boomerangs if you are spending any money.
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Old 22nd March 2013, 5:36 PM   #107
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Just hang in there, it'll be frustrating for the first day or two, but once you start getting the higher tier planes, you'll start having a lot more fun.

One bit of advice, you're slow, and have crap guns, but can turn well. Don't go charging off on your own, you won't last two seconds. Try sticking with others and more to the rear of the fighting. Stick with larger groups of friendlies, don't try to go vertical, you'll stall in no time, use your planes turning ability if you get in a bad spot.
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Old 22nd March 2013, 6:55 PM   #108
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Thanks for the advice, I'm pretty experienced in flying so the technical aspects aren't too difficult for me. It's just the actual planes that suck at the moment lol
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Old 22nd March 2013, 7:31 PM   #109
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2nd the recommendation of the Boomerangs... seriously I have been playing for a while now (only rank 10 overall, 9 & 10 British and USA) but I still find myself going back to the boomerang and getting quite a lot of kills. It has decent firepower and can out-turn most planes on the field. I always get kills in it, no matter how badly our team is doing. But it isn't fast so don't try and straight-line escape from a bad situation or try and chase anything fast with it. I find it works best if you lie in wait and pounce on unsuspecting fighter/bombers or engage other fighters when they slow down to engage each other. My other favourites are the mk2 spitfire (get tonnes of kills with it too), the hellcat and the 109. I've probably done most of my air-to-air kills with the 109 too.

Oh and as above, if you go off on your own in one of those lower tier planes people like me will see you and go chase you down for an easy kill . I do feel bad sometimes nailing noobs but low hanging fruit ya'know... I also slowly learned that patience is very much a virtue in this game - you need to know when to avoid a situation (e.g. beaufighters, I avoid those fuckers like the plague unless I at height, got good speed and am off at a rear angle to them), and when to jump in. The easiest way I find to get yourself shot-down is to head straight in the maelstrom - you are more than likely going to end up with one or more enemies on your tail if you try and engage in such a crowded area. My tactic now is to wait a moment for the initial hectic madness to be over and then wait till the pack spreads out. I usually circle over the friendly field/spawn while gaining altitude then head out and around looking for targets. Bombers are a nice soft target and a lot of lower-ranked players will fly bombers to get easy XP (well you did get good XP for ground targets prior to 1.29). But as with most public servers nobody really ever works together so 9/10 the bombers are un-escorted and make easy targets. Although sometimes you will see a canny enemy fighter hiding off in the distance/up high waiting for you to engage the bombers so check first.

That's just my 2c, I am not the best player but I am not the worst and I am progressing reasonably quickly (yes I have a premium account for the month).

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Old 22nd March 2013, 8:27 PM   #110
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Well I unlocked the Gladiator II bi-plane at rank 1 and I topped a round with 5 kills (and a 3 kill streak which netted me 5000xp!) so things definitely get better.. lol
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Old 25th March 2013, 9:47 AM   #111
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Well I unlocked the Gladiator II bi-plane at rank 1 and I topped a round with 5 kills (and a 3 kill streak which netted me 5000xp!) so things definitely get better.. lol
oh the British only start horrid, once you have hurricanes and spitfires etc you start killing erebody.

With the borked economy I am just flying what I have fun in after buying the tier 6 American and unlocking 7.

British lineup is tier 4 (actual rank is 8 so far) Boomerang Mk I, Boomerang Mk II, Spitfire VB, Hurricane MK I, Hurricane MK II.

Usually start with the Hurricane MK II to rocket some ground targets plus it's not a bad fighter especially with omni-ammo. Then if I get shot down I'll take the Boomerang MK II...this is usually the last plane I have to take out. Otherwise I'll take something else if I am feeling bad I haven't flown the other planes in a while and am neglecting the crew.

I find the least tier spread in games to be the first 4 brackets (up to 7). So even though I have 9+ in German and Russian I'll probably setup a max 7 lineup for now.
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oh the British only start horrid, once you have hurricanes and spitfires etc you start killing erebody.

With the borked economy I am just flying what I have fun in after buying the tier 6 American and unlocking 7.

British lineup is tier 4 (actual rank is 8 so far) Boomerang Mk I, Boomerang Mk II, Spitfire VB, Hurricane MK I, Hurricane MK II.

Usually start with the Hurricane MK II to rocket some ground targets plus it's not a bad fighter especially with omni-ammo. Then if I get shot down I'll take the Boomerang MK II...this is usually the last plane I have to take out. Otherwise I'll take something else if I am feeling bad I haven't flown the other planes in a while and am neglecting the crew.
I'm loving the Boomerang but can't justify also getting the Mk.II, is there any difference? I'm assuming it's only so you can have two of them in your lineup.

I've also got the Hellcat but while it has a good loadout, it feels like a sitting duck in the air - ridiculously hard to maneuver and a single hit from a B109/Beaufighters cannons and it gets shredded to pieces

Spitfires are great fun to fly, possibly my favourite so far and I'm still trying to get the hang of the Beaufighter Mk.X (Insane firepower but cannot turn for shit!).

I'm lv7 in the British tree now and will probably decide on my second army soon, thinking Soviet or German.
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I really haven't flown the Mk I enough to give you a good answer apart from "felt slower" but pretty much just as good. I have 5 crews in every nation so having two made sense.
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British planes are good?

We must be playing different games, played them up to rank 8 and have stopped.

Started playing Russians, absolutely eat British planes for breakfast when i see anyone else flying them out on the field.
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British planes are good?

We must be playing different games, played them up to rank 8 and have stopped.

Started playing Russians, absolutely eat British planes for breakfast when i see anyone else flying them out on the field.
I have Russian up to 9.

I have a lot of trouble validating people's claims in WT. There are a lot of terrible scrublord bubi wannbe's out there suffering terribly from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

I consistently top the scoring when playing my British line-up win or lose...and I mostly win with over 60% win rate overall. I am not a very good pilot and with a 380 ping (play Euro for the population) my reaction time is simply awful, however I'm not retarded and have some clue about objective and target prioritisation and which ranks I am likely to see with which planes I pick.

Yes, myself and the guys I play with absolutely destroyed 0-1 matches in the Russian biplanes and even combination Russian/Japanese teams. You still can but there is no reward for it anymore (used to be mass Lions) apart from padding K/D.
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Dont get me wrong British planes can deal some brutal damage quickly, but I've yet to find one that can turn to save its life and still be good at anything else.

Practically every other nation seems to be able to outmaneuver them with ease especially Russians.

Playing British my games were always a hit and a miss, some top, mid or even bottom scoreboards, but since moving to Russians i'm always first or second generally without fail.
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Dont get me wrong British planes can deal some brutal damage quickly, but I've yet to find one that can turn to save its life and still be good at anything else.

Practically every other nation seems to be able to outmaneuver them with ease especially Russians.

Playing British my games were always a hit and a miss, some top, mid or even bottom scoreboards, but since moving to Russians i'm always first or second generally without fail.
In what ranks? The Spitfires are some of the best turn fighters in the game. Especially now the Zero roll rates were nerfed and the mouse control controlls all surfaces and not just the tail.

Remember I was talking about a rank 4 lineup for brits, a LaGG cannot shake either boomerang or the Spit VB even with the Hurricane Mk II I have been able to sit behind other players and use rockets to take out ground targets while I wait to reload the MGs.
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In what ranks? The Spitfires are some of the best turn fighters in the game. Especially now the Zero roll rates were nerfed and the mouse control controlls all surfaces and not just the tail.

Remember I was talking about a rank 4 lineup for brits, a LaGG cannot shake either boomerang or the Spit VB even with the Hurricane Mk II I have been able to sit behind other players and use rockets to take out ground targets while I wait to reload the MGs.
Well I've played Brits through all ranks up to about 10 now.

I'm sitting in the 4-5 bracket on Russians and have a completely different experience.

Anytime a Spitfire or Hurricane comes into attack I always manage to even the turn out and neither can get behind one another or I get behind them, and on the other end of fights, me picking up a British plane from behind again, usually Spitfires or Hurricanes neither can ditch me, though not that they usually get the chance as I usually always do a bad hit/or crit in my first strike.

And from my time playing Brits Spitfire was shocking for handling, Hurricane was a bit better, but not by alot.
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I'd say you're more likely just encountering new players who go straight for the well-known planes and don't know what to do with them...

The only thing that I find the Russians have over the Brit planes is they take a fucking shitload to kill. I've seen some Russian planes take 3-4 fighters dumping their cannons into them for several minutes before they die. They have far too many hitpoints relative to everything else...
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The only thing that I find the Russians have over the Brit planes is they take a fucking shitload to kill. I've seen some Russian planes take 3-4 fighters dumping their cannons into them for several minutes before they die. They have far too many hitpoints relative to everything else...
I had a Yak-9 fly straight through my spitfire, cut me in half and continue flying as if it was just some minor turbulence.
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