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Old 30th September 2007, 8:52 PM   #1
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Default What is the penalty for killing a snake?

I had a bit of a trawl today and found Parramatta Council has a maximum fine around $5700 and somewhere else the max was $11,000. Where would I get a definitive figure?

Plenty of sites say they are all protected, but can't find anything listed as to what happens if you get caught shovelling one to death in your yard.

I live on 5 acres and have a few tigers around. Never will kill one.
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Old 30th September 2007, 10:57 PM   #2
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It is legal to kill a protected species if it is directly threatening you or your family.
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Old 1st October 2007, 7:37 AM   #3
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It is legal to kill a protected species if it is directly threatening you or your family.
Yeah but if your "Directly threatened" by a snake then what kind of pansy bitch are you anyway.
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Old 1st October 2007, 8:34 AM   #4
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Yeah but if your "Directly threatened" by a snake then what kind of pansy bitch are you anyway.

I take it you've never been attacked by a taipan then? I can arrange it if you want........
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Old 1st October 2007, 8:52 AM   #5
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Nah mate I lived on a farm out at Bathurst, I wouldnt have a clue what your on about...
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Old 1st October 2007, 9:11 AM   #6
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Nah mate I lived on a farm out at Bathurst, I wouldnt have a clue what your on about...
Which proves my point.

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The Coastal Taipan (O scutellatus) isdistributed coastally from the northernNew South Wales border region, north-wards along the east and north coasts ofQueensland, with rare records from theTop End of the Northern Territory andKimberley, west to Koolan Island.13,22,23There are unconfirmed reports fromextreme north-eastern New South Wales(Woodenbong).
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Old 1st October 2007, 9:35 AM   #7
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Yeah when snakes *want* to be dangerous, they will be...other times they are scared of you and "run" hehe :P

I once had either a taipan or a red belly, 5-6ft long, dash out of bushes with its head up and chase myself and 5 friends out of a creek ... twas' scary-funny :P

Other times you will just run into a snake and its like "Mang, just going about my day" e.g. walking home from said creek, brownie with its head up off the ground and I was about to step on it...my friend potentially saved my life that day.
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Old 1st October 2007, 9:54 AM   #8
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Yeah because the Taipan is the be all and end all of venomous snakes...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...indexed=google
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Old 5th October 2007, 9:30 AM   #9
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I guess that depends upon how you define dangerous. (chance of getting bitten causing death per encounter, or if you included chance of encounter)
A bit like saying the american loved rattlesnake is more dangerous than a taipan/brown just because of the human population and stupidity over there.

The brown snake is a lot more common but from my understanding the taipan is generally more aggressive.

A little story, about 10yrs ago now a taipan decided to take up residense in some spare irrigation pipes at the main shed on my old farm. We called out a snake catcher to take care of it, and when he arrived and identified the species he refused to catch it and told us to kill it.
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Yeah when snakes *want* to be dangerous, they will be...other times they are scared of you and "run" hehe :P

I once had either a taipan or a red belly, 5-6ft long, dash out of bushes with its head up and chase myself and 5 friends out of a creek ... twas' scary-funny :P

Other times you will just run into a snake and its like "Mang, just going about my day" e.g. walking home from said creek, brownie with its head up off the ground and I was about to step on it...my friend potentially saved my life that day.
LOL

They are fairly different snakes, like for example, one has a red belly



And yes, I consider a Taipan to be pretty much australias most deadliest snake, especially when it thinks its cornered
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Old 6th October 2007, 12:12 PM   #11
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Yeah but if your "Directly threatened" by a snake then what kind of pansy bitch are you anyway.
Colour me a pansy then. If I come across a snake, and it decides to make sudden movements towards me, I'm directly threatened and that snake is getting clobered.

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Old 6th October 2007, 12:29 PM   #12
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Count me in as a pansy too. If a snake comes anywhere near me or my dogs, it's going to be disintegrated as soon as I load my 12 gauge.
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Yeah because the Taipan is the be all and end all of venomous snakes...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...indexed=google
You cant use that as proof.

There is no one "deadliest snake in the world".
There is no "most venomous" either.
There IS however a way that snakes can be classified based on the intensity, and the toxicity of its venom.

Whilst one snake might not be that potent in terms of venom, then amount administered, or the ferocity of the attack might be lethal.

Likewise a snake might administer a small amount of venom, that is far more lethal in smaller doses.

Then there is the consideration of the type of toxicity in the venom. Is it a neuro or a necro toxin, does it cause clotting, does it cause muscle fatigue, does it cause fever?

There are so many questions around this type of thing, it is impossible to ascertain "the deadliest snake in aus".

Having said all this when all the factors are put together the Elapidae species of snakes, has the highest amount of deadly snakes out of any snake species.

Generally the Inland Tapian (fierce snake), Eastern Brown, and King Brown are the 3 deadliest in Australia though.

Good reading here about the LD50 toxicity scale: http://members.iinet.net.au/~bush/myth.html
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I would love to know how one would get "caught" shovelling a snake to death...

If you live in the sticks, and your neighbours are a 10 minute drive away, who is going to dob on you for putting a pickaxe through a king brown's skull?

not that i condone such behaviour, but the "fines" for doing it can only really be there to catch the people stupid enough to brag about their snake killing prowess.
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Old 8th October 2007, 2:30 PM   #15
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They are fairly different snakes, like for example, one has a red belly

And yes, I consider a Taipan to be pretty much australias most deadliest snake, especially when it thinks its cornered
Not all members of the family have a red belly IIRC, and my memory is a little fuzzy, as I was concentrating on running from something bigger than me...

Meanwhile, coolest snake on earth.

http://www.esf.edu/pubprog/images/snakes/nredbelly.jpg

Foreign species.
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