Nvidia's G300/GT300 GF100/Fermi Discussion - Page 68

Autti · 7th November 2009, 5:58 PM

I dont know why people complain about ATI drivers they have the same number of problems as Nvidia do. Some people have heaps of problems on ATI some don't, same with Nvidia, half of it is installing drivers that are immature and complaining of problems, or that with new games the aren't optimised yet which is hardly ATI or Nvidia's fault.

Itsmydamnation your right about the price, even if Fermi was here though ATI would probably stick at the current price anyway, they have a chronic supply shortage at the current price, and Fermi won't be competing at its price level, either way Fermi or no Fermi 58xx cards would sell the minute they hit the floor.

DiGiTaL MoNkEY · 7th November 2009, 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NNNG

Wasn't Charlie the guy who hyped up the R600? Claimed it had a sound card, among other things?

Charlie talks about a lot of things, if i kept track i would loose my mind.

Orphan · 7th November 2009, 6:05 PM

NV have just dropped the ball there is no other way to put it, AMD+ATI have picked up their game and have assessed the market right and have won. If NV want to have any chance of regaining market share aka $$$ they will need to pull their thumb out and get some competative cards out. Its not just about ATI having many better value for money cards its that NV is just falling behind by leaps and bounds in reverse and it is getting to the point that people can't justify buying NV as they simply don't meet the bar.

I do really hope they get it right and actually kick it up a notch, I remember hearing stuff about them apparently pulling out of the high end video card market which would be the dumbest thing they could do if they do it, its pushing the performance cards and higher technology that generally leads to improvements in the lower down the chain this applies to almost every field and every technology. Where there is a market there is a business, why the hell would you pull out of a market worth so much money and leave it 90% to your competition.

adamsleath · 7th November 2009, 6:25 PM

aww; let ati have their time in the sun...
i actually need some games to justify any grfx upgrade...havent played anything new in ages..

Mau1wurf1977 · 7th November 2009, 6:26 PM

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Originally Posted by raGneG

Why does everyone back AMD every time they release a product that only matches Nvidia's long existing line up? I guess it's cheaper.. but their drivers suck ass and well from experience their loud and hot to boot. :s

Thats why:

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The GeForce GTX 280 will retail for $650

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The GeForce GTX 260 will set you back $400

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It (5870) is launching at a MSRP of $379.

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and its (5850) pricing it at $259.

Source: Anandtech, prices in US $...

ewok85 · 7th November 2009, 6:36 PM

I asked a few questions over in the ATi thread and thought I might as well ask the NV camp as well - Whats the current top card? Whats coming next? And prices

Looking to buy one now, one more in 4-6months, water cool and SLI. Suggestions/tweaks appreciated!

Mau1wurf1977 · 7th November 2009, 6:40 PM

Buy one now?

Well 5870 is your best shot...

3Tone · 7th November 2009, 8:15 PM

Current top card overall seems to be the GTX295.

ltd73 · 7th November 2009, 8:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 3Tone

Current top card overall seems to be the GTX295.

just don't whine when it lets the magic blue smoke out.

impact_player · 7th November 2009, 9:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NNNG

Wasn't Charlie the guy who hyped up the R600? Claimed it could double as a sound card, among other things?

...which it can...

What's your point?

itsmydamnation · 7th November 2009, 9:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 3Tone

Current top card overall seems to be the GTX295.

if your happy with sli on a stick

raGneG · 7th November 2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mau1wurf1977

Thats why:

Source: Anandtech, prices in US $...

Galaxy GF GTX 260+ (216SP) Overclocked PCI-E 2.0 896MB DDR3 448-bit, 625/2100MHz. Dual-Link DVI, HDMI, HDCP, HDTV, Fan. $190.00

Galaxy GF GTX 285 PCI-E 2.0 1GB DDR3 512-bit, 648/2484MHz. Dual Dual-Link DVI, HDCP, Fan, NVIDIA PhysX Ready. $390.00

HIS ATI HD 5850 PCI-E 2.0 1GB 256-bit GDDR5, 725/4000MHz, Dual DVI/ HDMI/ Display Port, DX11, Fan, Game included. $340.00

HIS ATI HD 5870 PCI-E 2.0 1GB 256-bit GDDR5, 850/4800MHz, Dual DVI/ HDMI/ Display Port, DX11, Fan, Game included. $465.00

So that's from my supplier ex gst. There is also NO STOCK of the ATI cards.

Mau1wurf1977 · 7th November 2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by raGneG

So that's from my supplier ex gst. There is also NO STOCK of the ATI cards.

Foxcomp in Perth has 5870s in stock and on thrusday and friday they even had 5850s...

The prices I posted where launch prices. It just shows that ATI is more about value and Nvidia more about profit...

raGneG · 7th November 2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mau1wurf1977

Foxcomp in Perth has 5870s in stock and on thrusday and friday they even had 5850s...

The prices I posted where launch prices. It just shows that ATI is more about value and Nvidia more about profit...

You feel like mentioning release dates to go along with it?

I picked up a GTX260 at release (Asus) for $330. This was a lonnngg time ago! Of course the ATI stuff is going to come out cheaper when it's more than a year later than the Nvidia stuff.

And i'm talking about my distributors stock. Both of mine don't have any.

ratix · 7th November 2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ewok85

I asked a few questions over in the ATi thread and thought I might as well ask the NV camp as well - Whats the current top card? Whats coming next? And prices

Looking to buy one now, one more in 4-6months, water cool and SLI. Suggestions/tweaks appreciated!

If you don't want to bother researching

GTX295 $570-$590
HD5870 $510-$540

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7th November 2009, 5:58 PM	#1006
Autti New Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,256	I dont know why people complain about ATI drivers they have the same number of problems as Nvidia do. Some people have heaps of problems on ATI some don't, same with Nvidia, half of it is installing drivers that are immature and complaining of problems, or that with new games the aren't optimised yet which is hardly ATI or Nvidia's fault. Itsmydamnation your right about the price, even if Fermi was here though ATI would probably stick at the current price anyway, they have a chronic supply shortage at the current price, and Fermi won't be competing at its price level, either way Fermi or no Fermi 58xx cards would sell the minute they hit the floor.

7th November 2009, 6:05 PM	#1008
Orphan Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 681	NV have just dropped the ball there is no other way to put it, AMD+ATI have picked up their game and have assessed the market right and have won. If NV want to have any chance of regaining market share aka $$$ they will need to pull their thumb out and get some competative cards out. Its not just about ATI having many better value for money cards its that NV is just falling behind by leaps and bounds in reverse and it is getting to the point that people can't justify buying NV as they simply don't meet the bar. I do really hope they get it right and actually kick it up a notch, I remember hearing stuff about them apparently pulling out of the high end video card market which would be the dumbest thing they could do if they do it, its pushing the performance cards and higher technology that generally leads to improvements in the lower down the chain this applies to almost every field and every technology. Where there is a market there is a business, why the hell would you pull out of a market worth so much money and leave it 90% to your competition.