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Old 20th September 2017, 6:18 PM   #2011
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Guys, I'm looking for a shorty GPU for an SG13 build, I have a water block for a Nano but I was wondering if I should be hunting for something else? A Fury-x is pretty short with a full block too right? Plus there are the nvidia options - 1060's, zotac shorties come in 1070, 1080 and 1080Ti ....

Would a Nano or Fury-X run hotter than a 1080 or thereabouts?

There's a 1080Ti shorty? I'd love to get my hands on that.

If you want watercooling a Gainward 970 Phantom is a shorty.. at least most of them are, some aren't, its a pretty random lottery. Point being that a short 970 takes a stock EK full cover block and backplate.. I have a block and backplate here if you are interested.
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Old 20th September 2017, 7:05 PM   #2012
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Great idea but I had one of those a few builds back, I would like something different/newer.

Zotac 1080Ti mini - 211mm long - Here

I thought a Fury X looked pretty short with a water block - here

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if i want dual 240mm rads in an ITX case (dont want ITX purely for tiniest size), is my only option the Caselabs Mercury s3?

I know the price point is a factor, but i already own two s8's, and have previously owned two s5's

intending on putting in an X299 itx build, with a 1080+, so going to need some decent cooling.

Had a look at the shift X, but dont really like the look of it.
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Old 22nd September 2017, 7:23 PM   #2014
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if i want dual 240mm rads in an ITX case (dont want ITX purely for tiniest size), is my only option the Caselabs Mercury s3?

I know the price point is a factor, but i already own two s8's, and have previously owned two s5's

intending on putting in an X299 itx build, with a 1080+, so going to need some decent cooling.

Had a look at the shift X, but dont really like the look of it.
My Fractal Nano S could take a 280 (already does) in the front, and would take a 240 on the roof at the same time I think. At the very most I might need to lower the height of the front rad by using a 240 so at least a pair of 240s. I Might even be able to squeeze in a 120 at the rear as well.

A Corsair 350D, although a mATX case, is very compact and will easily handle 240+240+120.
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My Fractal Nano S could take a 280 (already does) in the front, and would take a 240 on the roof at the same time I think. At the very most I might need to lower the height of the front rad by using a 240 so at least a pair of 240s. I Might even be able to squeeze in a 120 at the rear as well.

A Corsair 350D, although a mATX case, is very compact and will easily handle 240+240+120.
yeah, eyeing off the Asrock X299 mITX board, and was thinking going with the Mercury S3 ($491 at scorptec)

very expensive, but having owned 2 s5 (matx) and currently owning 2 s8's, i do love caselabs!

Always love horizontal mobo mounts as well. But the NANO S is definately intriguing!
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Great idea but I had one of those a few builds back, I would like something different/newer.

Zotac 1080Ti mini - 211mm long - Here

I thought a Fury X looked pretty short with a water block - here

Aussie sell HOF and buy the mini zotac.
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My Fractal Nano S could take a 280 (already does) in the front, and would take a 240 on the roof at the same time I think. At the very most I might need to lower the height of the front rad by using a 240 so at least a pair of 240s. I Might even be able to squeeze in a 120 at the rear as well.

A Corsair 350D, although a mATX case, is very compact and will easily handle 240+240+120.
Yeah Im going 280 front and 120 back

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Aussie sell HOF and buy the mini zotac.
Sounds like a plan.

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Old 22nd September 2017, 10:12 PM   #2018
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Yeah Im going 280 front and 120 back
Just be aware.. if you want push-pull in the front, both pairs of fans and rad will be within the case. The empty front cover (filtered on the case side) is about 28mm thick I think, but the intakes are at the side, so the fans have to drag the air through the side vents via the 3mm or so clearance between them and the closed front.

I never tried it, because I couldn't see it working real well. I may be wrong, but I don't believe so. Also, since the filter is mounted to the case side, you'd lose the filter and have to jerry rig something over the unfiltered side intakes. That doesn't work for me either.

Specs say my Waterforce is 266mm long, and I cannot mount a 4th fan on the bottom slot, as you've seen previously. Its about? 10mm too long to fit the 4th fan, so if you want 4 fans you will need a GPU absolutely no longer than 255mm and really 245mm would be more desirable if possible to give you some wriggle room.

If you are happy to forgo the 4th fan, and honestly it won't make more than a mickey hairs worth of difference to temps, then your absolute max will be 281mm (assuming my 10mm guesstimate is exactly accurate, and a 25mm fan space available so my card=266+another15mm) and you'll be preferring no longer than 270mm. (Also assuming your rad is 38mm thick like my EX280.. Obviously a thicker or thinner rad changes the numbers.)

That of course leaves you with the choice of a very short pump/res combo above the GPU, or a split pump under/res over setup like mine. A suitable short combo which I believe would fit completely on top would be the 100mm X-res setups, DDC or D5, on a 140mm rad mount.

My 266mm is pretty easy to work with, but it still takes a little care getting the GPU into place as the GPU has to be slightly angled to get the PCIE bracket past the edge of the case. If you wanted to use every available mm of that absolute max, you'd basically have to dremel a small section of the rear side of the case away so you could stick the GPU straight in without the PCIE bracket fouling the case.

This wouldn't matter though. It wouldn't affect form or function in any way, a quick squirt of matt black and you wouldn't tell it from original. The side cover would hide it anyway unless you have the case open.

There is room for a rear 120 PROVIDED your mobo doesn't have a mile high stack of plastic covers or VRM cooling. I'd estimate there is probably slightly less than 10mm clearance between where the rad/fan would sit, maybe even 5mm, and the top of the IO plate. Of course you can rule out even a thin rear rad if you don't have at least that much clearance. Some of those new IO covered boards may have an issue there. A thicker rad would depend on the VRM cooling, assuming you've gotten past the IO's.

Looking at the Z170i Pro Gaming currently installed in the case, I believe I could maybe fit a 60mm thick rad, but that has nothing that sticks up very high. That would be coming very close to the CPU block though, and would both look awful and be a real PITA. I think 45mm would be more realistic. However, I don''t know of any rads as thick as that which also fit height wise.

You'll be wanting a rad that has minimal extra height beyond its 120mm. I'd suggest a Coolstream 26mm SE-120 if you can clear the IO, or a 38mm PE-120 if you can also clear the VRM's. I suspect most other rads would be too tall. I think I would lean toward the thinner SE-120 to allow easier access to other shit.

My EX280 in the front doesn't have much wriggle room height wise either.

I'd suggest a 45mm Coolstream CE-280 in the front and a 26mm SE-120 in the rear would probably be your ideal combo, with maybe a D5 XRes-100 combo on a 140 rad mount above the GPU. Of course, now you'll have 7mm less room for a GPU than the numbers I quoted earlier

Everything is a compromise


There is however another possible option.. a high 120 rad on the front, a 120 rad at the rear, take the top cover off and stick a 240 on the roof... 480mm of rad, and virtually no GPU limits! I sit stuff on top of my PC, I wouldn't consider this personally, but many people have no issue with a top rad.
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The 280 is push only, mounted inside the stock fans. The 120 is push only, mounted ouside the rear case can with 2 holes for compressions to poke through.

My 90 into the gpu rests on the psu like yours, Im thinking of either using barbs there or going to an SFX psu.


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