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Old 20th June 2017, 3:49 PM   #46
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The TUF has more USB ports and M.2 cooling, but no Q-Code LED's.
Yeah if you are going to run M.2 drives, the TUF would be better with the cooling. The Strix would have better audio.
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Old 20th June 2017, 4:00 PM   #47
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Oh man, I don't know which to get, the Strix or the TUF Mark 1....

The TUF has more USB ports and M.2 cooling, but no Q-Code LED's.
I'm also tossing up between Asus boards. On a mature platform like Z270 I don't mind the lack of Q-code. On Ryzen I've found it indispensable and it looks like x299 will need some time to mature.

Will probably go with Prime as it is a full $100 less than strix. I'm sure I can get by with reduced RGB and no sonic radar .
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Old 20th June 2017, 4:27 PM   #48
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Yeah if you are going to run M.2 drives, the TUF would be better with the cooling. The Strix would have better audio.
Audio doesn't bother me, I'm running a S.M.S.L 32bit/384khz USB Dac

RGB doesn't bother me, I usually just ran red if at all.
I'm just looking for reliability, the x99 Strix had a lost of issues.

Oh why couldn't they put a Q-Code LED on the TUF...

Did you see where they M.2 fan is located on the TUF, right next to the primary PCi-E slot, I wonder how much hot air it will suck in from a custom GPU cooler like the GTX1080 Strix.

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Old 20th June 2017, 4:59 PM   #49
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what a mess. Stay away, my head hurts after watching that BS.

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Certainly is a mess.
Having half the stuff on your expensive board not working if you don't buy an expensive enough chip is stupid. Also, juggling those PCIe lanes..

If Threadripper comes in at a competitive price, Intel will be caught with their priced feature-restricting pants around their neck..
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Old 20th June 2017, 5:17 PM   #50
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Certainly is a mess.
Having half the stuff on your expensive board not working if you don't buy an expensive enough chip is stupid. Also, juggling those PCIe lanes..

If Threadripper comes in at a competitive price, Intel will be caught with their priced feature-restricting pants around their neck..
yup and their lineup is usually a 3 year turn over. Im still laughing at the 8x PCI-E on the GA board. Im sure the partners are happy about this launch... would be hard pressed to sell $400+ boards.
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Pre-release AU pricing is up. Not actually as bad as I'd thought.
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Old 20th June 2017, 5:34 PM   #52
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Umm I give the Strix a miss..

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We'll start with the one fly in the ointment of an otherwise flawless performance, which was that the M.2 SSD speed was a few hundred megabytes per second lower than we'd expect from the Samsung 960 Evo. We've had to manually tweak settings in the EFI for Asus boards before, but this time we could find nothing specifically relating to the M.2 port. We tried using Samsung's NVMe driver, a 960 Pro, and both ports, but we were still met with sub-par read speeds. Asus has told us it's looking into the issue, and with the latest 0401 BIOS having improved things just the other day already, we're hopeful this issue will be fixed soon.
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Pre-release AU pricing is up. Not actually as bad as I'd thought.
lol your kidding right

vs new egg prices we are being shafted extra hard for prices at the vendors that have the them listed.

take the Asus TUF Mk 1 -- $549 locally

or $339 USD or $445AUD -- on new egg over or an increase of 23%

even worst the board I want the Asrock x299 tachi

is $289 USD or $380 AUD

PCcase gear has then for $499 LOL or 31% higher and retailers wonder why peole but this stuff online

tell pccase gear and scorptech there dreaming.
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Old 20th June 2017, 6:06 PM   #54
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tell pccase gear and scorptech there dreaming.
Everything is cheaper overseas though? Nothing is stopping you from ordering from the US.

You have to add in GST and postage for items in Australia as well.
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Old 20th June 2017, 6:11 PM   #55
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lol your kidding right

vs new egg prices we are being shafted extra hard for prices at the vendors that have the them listed.

take the Asus TUF Mk 1 -- $549 locally

or $339 USD or $445AUD -- on new egg over or an increase of 23%

even worst the board I want the Asrock x299 tachi

is $289 USD or $380 AUD

PCcase gear has then for $499 LOL or 31% higher and retailers wonder why peole but this stuff online

tell pccase gear and scorptech there dreaming.
Don't forget they have local wholesale suppliers as well, they don't get it shipped from overseas straight to them.

Problem with Newegg is if you buy a complete build over $1000 you're paying duty.

Not to mention the hassle of shipping internationally back to them or dealing with manufacturers directly.
With Scorptech/PCCG you send it to them and they do all the RMA work with the local wholesalers.
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Old 20th June 2017, 6:19 PM   #56
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Everything is cheaper overseas though? Nothing is stopping you from ordering from the US.

You have to add in GST and postage for items in Australia as well.
not GST I wont pay.

I dont like buying PC gear overseas and have not so far but these prices are more ridiculous than usual.

the 1080's for the FE cards were only about $50-60 AUD difference from the USA prices which on a $1100 item is not much percentage wise.

but on a $400 motherboard 31% price increase is just gouging even 21% if you account for the GST is over the top

and as for postage Scorptech / PCcase gear are not local to me and their postage rates are not far off what Newegg charge.

which is why I usually buy off Umart /MSY who usually have more down to earth pricing so I will see what they do, otherwise ill be buying an Asus TUF board from Newegg instead of the Asrock as the Asus warranty is international and there is a service centre in brisbane/sydney
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Don't forget they have local wholesale suppliers as well, they don't get it shipped from overseas straight to them.

Problem with Newegg is if you buy a complete build over $1000 you're paying duty.

Not to mention the hassle of shipping internationally back to them or dealing with manufacturers directly.
With Scorptech/PCCG you send it to them and they do all the RMA work with the local wholesalers.
Buy Asus / Intel you dont need to deal with the retailer both have international warranty Asus has local service centers -- intel's warranty service is fantastic having had a processor replaced recently all postage (there and back) was express via DHL and covered by intel for a CPU I might add that was 6months out of warranty period
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Buy Asus / Intel you dont need to deal with the retailer both have international warranty Asus has local service centers -- intel's warranty service is fantastic having had a processor replaced recently all postage (there and back) was express via DHL and covered by intel for a CPU I might add that was 6months out of warranty period
I'm more than happy to support PCCG they have been awesome over the years I'v bought from them.
Call me a creature of habit, MSY burnt their bridges with me, Umart sucks locally so I generally stick to them with some purchases from Scorptec.
The PCCG guys know now when I say something is dead, it's dead and get to the RMA quickly.

Either way wherever we buy our stuff from it's going to be good..

I'm a little turned off on the Strix by the reviews I've been reading, I might throw in the extra and get a Asus x299 Prime Deluxe.

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lol your kidding right
6950x core counts and clocks for 5960x retail prices?
Whose kidding?
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You have to add in GST and postage for items in Australia as well.
And the cost of Australian consumer legal protections.
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Either way wherever we buy our stuff from it's going to be good..
I'm going to hold off just long enough for Threadripper to dent the pricing (and hock a kidney or three)
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I'm going to hold off just long enough for Threadripper to dent the pricing (and hock a kidney or three)
I'm interested to see if the memory bugs follow onto Threadripper.
It's one of the things that kept me going to AMD, I didn't want to take the gamble.
Yes memory support is getting better, but nothing like the recent Intel platforms.
Ryzen as a architecture is impressive, and as it matures I'm sure everything will be ironed out.
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