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Old 20th March 2017, 10:05 PM   #1
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Default Email host recommendation?

Any recommendations for an email host for around 15 email addresses that will allow large IMAP inboxes, say max 10gigs or so? Got a client hell bent on using imap across all devices and keeping every email ever. G suite is an option but bit pricey, but if that's all there is will go down that path.
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Old 20th March 2017, 10:10 PM   #2
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IMAP can die in a fire IMO, especially if they have nested folders... blergh.

Sell them Hosted Exchange instead https://products.office.com/en-au/ex...e-online-plans
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Old 21st March 2017, 8:14 AM   #3
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1) Office 365 mail, could be cost effective if you lump it in with your Office 365 (word, exel, etc) yearly fee

2) Gapps ( or whatever they are calling it this month)

3) Slightly dodgy, "purchase" a legacy gapps account. Cost~$100 then no monthly fee. Would depends on future actions of google.
Thought about it, too risky for a business

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Gapp suite is where my personal/business mail is located.
I'm paying $4 user for both and I find that to be spot on.

I agree with the hosted exchange option - it's a business environment so sell them on guaranteed uptime and availability. I deal with small email hosts being blacklisted daily and it's loads of fun telling a customer "You want to cheap out and that's not really our fault - we warned you"

TLDR do it once and do it right.
If they're not willing to listen to reason are they worth being a customer? (more trouble then they're worth?)
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Old 21st March 2017, 9:03 AM   #5
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IMAP can die in a fire IMO
IMAP is a 1980's solution for a 2017 problem.

Let it die already.

If you *need* Outlook. Get O365.
If you ok with living in a browser. G-Suite or O365 will cover you.
If you have hundreds of users and some reasoning as to why you can justify on-premise hardware. Consider Exchange.
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Old 21st March 2017, 10:52 AM   #6
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If you *need* Outlook. Get O365.
If you're worried about outlook the Gapps sync tool works flawlessly.
if of course the business doesn't already have licencing then yeah. a bus premium plan or similar is going to work out better.
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Old 21st March 2017, 11:39 AM   #7
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If you're worried about outlook the Gapps sync tool works flawlessly.
No.

It doesn't.

Fundamental difference between how G-Suite stores mail and how Outlook/Exchange does exist. See Labels. Also see shared calendars, contacts, etc.

It will work for basic users, sure. But it is not a drop in replacement for anyone who is an Outlook "power user".
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For old school style non-exchange, non-google based email, i've been using OpenSRS for a few years now. They're a spin-off from Tucows (remember them?!), they're cheap and they work great. Their servers aren't based in Australia, but for email that's not a big issue, i've never had any issues with delays fetching mail or such, they've honestly been more reliable than O365.

$0.50 per mailbox per month for 5GB of space, POP, IMAP and Webmail access, and you can buy extra space for specific accounts.

Their management interface looks like it hasnt been updated since 1990, but hey, it works.

If only I got commission from referrals :P

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Thanks guys yeah ill push for an exchange setup. A couple of them run office 365 and a couple on office 2016. Didn't even know you could use exchange with that, just an extra small fee on top?
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For old school style non-exchange, non-google based email, i've been using OpenSRS for a few years now. They're a spin-off from Tucows (remember them?!), they're cheap and they work great. Their servers aren't based in Australia, but for email that's not a big issue, i've never had any issues with delays fetching mail or such, they've honestly been more reliable than O365.

$0.50 per mailbox per month for 5GB of space, POP, IMAP and Webmail access, and you can buy extra space for specific accounts.

Their management interface looks like it hasnt been updated since 1990, but hey, it works.

If only I got commission from referrals :P
Any option for bigger then 5 gig? Also can they transition existing email domains across? That can be an issue for some, google use third party companies to manage it when you use them who charge fees on top of Google prices.
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Thanks guys yeah ill push for an exchange setup. A couple of them run office 365 and a couple on office 2016. Didn't even know you could use exchange with that, just an extra small fee on top?
Look at the Office365 Premium plans.
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No.

It doesn't.

Fundamental difference between how G-Suite stores mail and how Outlook/Exchange does exist. See Labels. Also see shared calendars, contacts, etc.

It will work for basic users, sure. But it is not a drop in replacement for anyone who is an Outlook "power user".
Hmm,

Fair point I guess.
I was more thinking that a SMB isn't really going to contain "Power Users", in this case I'm probably showing my knowledge. Cause they definitely do.
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Look at the Office365 Premium plans.
Looks like we will be going with Office 365 Business Premium @ $17.50 per user a month.

Because office is bundled in this makes it better value then G-Suite because they already were paying $8.00 a month per user for 365 home/student.

One thing I am worried about is the transition from current email domain host to MS, technical support seem to think its an easy process with MX file etc and some verification with existing host.. but I have never done this. They claim the website holds your hand pretty well with it all, and to call them if needed.

When looking into G-Suite, they put me onto a third party partner company to do on my behalf who charged a fair bit on top of G-Suites prices giving me impression its kind of hard..

Anyone had experience with this?
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if you can update DNS records. if you can copy paste mail from one pst file to a mailbox. You'll be ok.

If its 100+ users, maybe get a tool.
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Looks like we will be going with Office 365 Business Premium @ $17.50 per user a month.

Because office is bundled in this makes it better value then G-Suite because they already were paying $8.00 a month per user for 365 home/student.

One thing I am worried about is the transition from current email domain host to MS, technical support seem to think its an easy process with MX file etc and some verification with existing host.. but I have never done this. They claim the website holds your hand pretty well with it all, and to call them if needed.

When looking into G-Suite, they put me onto a third party partner company to do on my behalf who charged a fair bit on top of G-Suites prices giving me impression its kind of hard..

Anyone had experience with this?
Google Apps has step by step documentation, regarding logging into your domain provider and copy / pasting the MX code etc.

Did it about two years ago with no issues from memory.

I just followed the documentation, and was all good. (Note that we lost all our old emails IIRC but we didn't care, I have no idea if it was possible to transfer them across, probably was).

We are happy with GApps and we use Outlook 2016. We're not power users, but it works 'good enough' for us. Like Nsanity said, GApps uses Labels, which is not really "Folders" that Outlook uses, but is a tag IIRC, but seems to sync fine and doesn't appear any different.
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