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Old 2nd July 2012, 6:28 PM   #676
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yeah i used an 800 recently an apart from the dynamic range i wasnt amazed. the colours werent as nice as my d3s, iso was in my opinion rubbish. and the files r just absurdly big. good camera i guess for very specific applications, but as allrounder u would have to be nuts to buy over a second hand d3s for the same money.

also the focus was for shit, but thats apparently a know problem.
I really wish people would stop comparing it to the D3s when it comes to low light they're both two different beasts for two different niches.

Edit: From what I've seen it's very much like a D700 but with three times the resolution and a slower burst rate.
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Old 2nd July 2012, 6:50 PM   #677
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You talking about the left AF point thing?
no idea mate, i didnt look into it, i just know my photos were oof. wasnt a job or anything so i just delete haha
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Old 2nd July 2012, 6:52 PM   #678
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I really wish people would stop comparing it to the D3s when it comes to low light they're both two different beasts for two different niches.

Edit: From what I've seen it's very much like a D700 but with three times the resolution and a slower burst rate.
lol learn to read mate, i compared the colours no iso to the d3s.
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Old 2nd July 2012, 6:54 PM   #679
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I really wish people would stop comparing it to the D3s when it comes to low light they're both two different beasts for two different niches.

Edit: From what I've seen it's very much like a D700 but with three times the resolution and a slower burst rate.
I'm not sure why people compare cameras that are twice the price either. At vanbar the D3s is $5900 and the D800 is $3400.

If you do compare them you need to compare Like for like. If you resize the D800 to 12MP the noise is reduced considerably, I don't have the D3s to compare otherwise I'd give it ago. If you compare the cameras the other way and resize the D3s to 36MP I'm pretty sure that it would really suck.

D3s is now old technology and Nikon want twice the price for it, just let it go.

The D800 really addresses all the shortcomings of the D700 except frame rate. The horrid 95% viewfinder is now 100%, it focuses really well and it's got decent resolution for landscape. I like the two mem cards on it and the live view screen is much improved.

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Old 2nd July 2012, 9:52 PM   #680
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You talking about the left AF point thing?
I've just discovered mine has issues with its left most autofocus point.
Time to send it back, at least Nikon has come up with a fix...
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Mine doesnt have it. When i first heard about it I was like...come on people...user error?
But then i heard more and more people post about it

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I've just discovered mine has issues with its left most autofocus point.
Time to send it back, at least Nikon has come up with a fix...
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Old 2nd July 2012, 10:12 PM   #682
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Mine doesnt have it. When i first heard about it I was like...come on people...user error?
But then i heard more and more people post about it
Fortunately I've been sticking to mostly the inner points so it was only until I tested the camera I realised it suffered from it. Otherwise it has been a trooper.
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Old 2nd July 2012, 11:25 PM   #683
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Power47, I'm interested to hear your expanded view about the Colour not being as nice vs the D3s. Comparing against my D700 the D800 has much better colour. I have no experience with the D3s though.

Moving up from the D700, when looking at a D800 image I too see that it looks to have more noise when you zoom in. However looking at images from both cameras at the same visible dimensions, the noise disappears and there is so much more detail with the 800.

I'm loving the fact that I can crop and crop and still have so much resolution; I know I should better compose my photos
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Old 3rd July 2012, 7:42 AM   #684
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I really wish people would stop comparing it to the D3s when it comes to low light they're both two different beasts for two different niches.
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I'm not sure why people compare cameras that are twice the price either. At vanbar the D3s is $5900 and the D800 is $3400.
God and I'm not sure why people keep assuming that I'm doing like for like comparison and not taking all my other preferences and pros and cons for my specific needs into account *yawn*

I do apologise to the high and mighty, I wasn't aware that you're both such purely objective people that would never post an opinion on anything...

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God and I'm not sure why people keep assuming that I'm doing like for like comparison and not taking all my other preferences and pros and cons for my specific needs into account *yawn*

I do apologise to the high and mighty, I wasn't aware that you're both such purely objective people that would never post an opinion on anything...
LAAAAAAWL high five mate haha.

the only reason either of us compared it to the d3s is cos we own them... not cos we think they r meant to be rivals.

and for the record u would have to be retarded to buy a new d3s now, so in the real world they r the same price.

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Power47, I'm interested to hear your expanded view about the Colour not being as nice vs the D3s. Comparing against my D700 the D800 has much better colour. I have no experience with the D3s though.

Moving up from the D700, when looking at a D800 image I too see that it looks to have more noise when you zoom in. However looking at images from both cameras at the same visible dimensions, the noise disappears and there is so much more detail with the 800.

I'm loving the fact that I can crop and crop and still have so much resolution; I know I should better compose my photos
man im sorry i didnt really do specific tests or anything, its just that iv been looking at d3s files for years and so i guess i get used to knowing how they look un-edited, then when loading up the d800 they just looked a lot more flat.

keep in mind this was just my initial reaction, it could be completely in my head!
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So my D800E is just under 2 weeks old. Last night I went out for a shoot, went to plug in my cable release, and the female plug in the camera has receeded into the body! I couldn't plug the bloody thing in and was hell pissed.

Called Nikon servicing and he said that's not normal and to bring it in.

After speaking with Myer (who I bought it from) he said to bring it in, show them, they will order a brand new one for me and I can give them the old one when the new one comes in :-) Winner winner.

All this means is my trip to Victoria this week is going to be limited to 30 second exposures. May as well leave the Big Stopper at home...
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man im sorry i didnt really do specific tests or anything, its just that iv been looking at d3s files for years and so i guess i get used to knowing how they look un-edited, then when loading up the d800 they just looked a lot more flat.

keep in mind this was just my initial reaction, it could be completely in my head!
I have to agree with you there Justin. The d800 NEFs are not as punchy and the shadows transitions are not as smooth as the D3s in natural lighting conditions. I've also found noticeable high iso noise at native resolutions vs the d3s nefs. Small issue as these two cameras are like distant cousins and each specialise in different areas.

Also for those of you who use presets, commercial film preset packages. The d800 are totally off ... awaiting updates
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