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Old 6th August 2012, 10:40 PM   #16
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AMD stock coolers are 10x better than intel for the retention mechanism alone!
Both have advantages but I'm used to the intel. AMD is easiest at first though I admit. How many times do use the retention though. I'd rather a hard retention but a quiet and high performing cooler.
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Old 6th August 2012, 11:44 PM   #17
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The retention mechanism matters when in 3 years time the cpu socket develops a bad contact due to flexing the board like spaghetti or if a pin breaks causing overheating.

Hands up who's come across dead 775 boards?

Btw my A8-3870 came with the lightest and most basic of the AMD coolers and easily handles a 10% cpu/ 33% gpu clock with the fan at it's lowest possible speed.
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Old 6th August 2012, 11:53 PM   #18
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The retention mechanism matters when in 3 years time the cpu socket develops a bad contact due to flexing the board like spaghetti or if a pin breaks causing overheating.

Hands up who's come across dead 775 boards?

Btw my A8-3870 came with the lightest and most basic of the AMD coolers and easily handles a 10% cpu/ 33% gpu clock with the fan at it's lowest possible speed.
Never had an issue with bad contact, you must not know how to attach the heatsink fan correctly

If you want to discuss 775, let's compare fairly. Can you explain why the AM2 cooler was so noisy and fails to dissipate heat?
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Old 7th August 2012, 12:22 AM   #19
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I didn't build either of those two 775 systems, came across them because they were dead. Also ever wondered why OEMs like Dell and Lenovo use custom screw mountings secured to the case? Because the intel plastic pin design is shit.
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Old 7th August 2012, 12:44 AM   #20
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I didn't build either of those two 775 systems, came across them because they were dead. Also ever wondered why OEMs like Dell and Lenovo use custom screw mountings secured to the case? Because the intel plastic pin design is shit.
The Intel design is better acoustically and dissipates more heat, I wouldn't call it shit. OEMs use other designs because they are either cheaper or suit their requirements better. Take it from someone who not only sells CPUs, but sells them by the fucking tray.

So, compare the shitty AMD HSF from my 9950 Black edition (enthusiast CPU) and it was one of the worst heatsinks I've used.
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The Intel design is better acoustically and dissipates more heat, I wouldn't call it shit. OEMs use other designs because they are either cheaper or suit their requirements better. Take it from someone who not only sells CPUs, but sells them by the fucking tray.
OEM Buys CPU.
OEM designs and manufacturers custom coolers for PC's.
OEM somehow saves money this way because they dont use the free HSF supplied.

...... seems legit

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So, compare the shitty AMD HSF from my 9950 Black edition (enthusiast CPU) and it was one of the worst heatsinks I've used.
User buys black edition enthusiast CPU.
User uses stock HSF.

....... Im starting to see a level of herpa derp here

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Old 7th August 2012, 10:59 AM   #22
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OEM Buys CPU.
OEM designs and manufacturers custom coolers for PC's.
OEM somehow saves money this way because they dont use the free HSF supplied.


...... seems legit
OEMs often can source a cooler cheaper elsewhere, bet you didn't know that. Often can be part of a deal with cases or PSU. You'd be surprised. When you buy a tray, heatsinks don't come with it

Stop being so stupid, get with facts

OEMs DON'T BUY SINGLE UNITS, they buy trays (with no HSF). << my point

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User buys black edition enthusiast CPU.
User uses stock HSF.

....... Im starting to see a level of herpa derp here

Good you realise your own herpa derp

When you buy an enthusiast chip you expect a reasonable package IF the fan is included. Let me put it this way, why include a shit fan? Why not save the $ and pass it on to consumer like some Intel CPU. If you buy an Intel enthusiast CPU either you get some decent (not overly fantastic but BETTER than AMD solution) fan, or you get none at all.

You're not stuck with a shitty fan. << my point.

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