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Old Yesterday, 4:11 PM   #2071
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I have an 8400 on the way, do you think a single 140 would cool it and a GPU (assuming I don't go wild on the GPU)? What about a second 120mm rad out the back (on stand off mounts)?

I can always swap to a different case but I did the full WC SG05 before so I wanted to see if I could do it again but better this time.

8400 is only a 65W chip (same as 1700) so you'll be fine as long as you have enough airflow to push air under load and don't use a massive powerdraw GPU (so 1080 mini with Thermosphere would be a good option)

I think a CE 140 with 2 of these to cool a 6400 and a 1080 would be fine, especially since you won't be overclocking the CPU. But if it does get too warm, then just bolt a 120 to the back, I just don't think you'll need to.
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Old Yesterday, 5:21 PM   #2072
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Got a corsair SF600, it's pretty damn quiet under load.
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Old Yesterday, 6:27 PM   #2073
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Tazor what if I did get a 240 into it, do you reckon that would be enough? Even if it's a thin 240 with maybe thin fans to make it fit?

Do you think a Nano or Fury-X would be harder to cool than a 1080? I might even drop back to a 1060 to make cooling easier.

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A 240 will easily cool any modern chip and GPU if they aren't furnaces. Funny, I was watching a JayzzTwoCents vid the other day on just this subject.

My 35mm 280 was cooling a 7700K @ 5.45GHz and a 1080 @ 2020MHz with ease. That's a delidded 7700K obviously, but still a higher heat load than an 8400.

A single 140 though, not so sure. I'd say hell yeah to either chip or GPU, but not so sure about both at once.

If you have to choose between a thin 240 or a thick 140 though, its no contest. The 240 wins hands down.
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A 240 will easily cool any modern chip and GPU if they aren't furnaces. Funny, I was watching a JayzzTwoCents vid the other day on just this subject.

My 35mm 280 was cooling a 7700K @ 5.45GHz and a 1080 @ 2020MHz with ease. That's a delidded 7700K obviously, but still a higher heat load than an 8400.

A single 140 though, not so sure. I'd say hell yeah to either chip or GPU, but not so sure about both at once.

If you have to choose between a thin 240 or a thick 140 though, its no contest. The 240 wins hands down.

Not necessarily, because fans are a big factor. If they're thin fans with very little airflow it won't be that much better but if you can fit a 240 with ample airflow then you'll be golden.

If you can mod the case to fit a 240 that would be seriously sick though.

Do you measurements to make sure a slim 240 will fit with fans.
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Im looking at all different ideas at the moment, dual AIO's, one AIO and air on the gpu, 1x140 rad, or massive mods and a 240 rad (even if the fans are outside the case with a grille).

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OK if you had to choose either cpu or gpu I guess the AIO would go on the cpu and air cool the gpu but gpu coolers make most noise so it makes sense to water cool it and air cool the cpu (doesnt it)?

If I transverse mounted a psu at the front of my SG13 would you face the fan to the front opening for cold air intake? Then top mount the gpu via riser and 240 on the side ...

Or leave the psu in the stock spot and transverse a short gpu across the front?

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Can't comment specifically on the SG13 but I've done a whole bunch of permutations in an Ncase m1.

I'd go AIO for the GPU and air on the CPU..

Cooling is a function of radiator (or HSF ) area and air flow. CPU air coolers don't have any size limit aside from the block out area around the CPU socket where there might be some caps and VRM. So really it's an efficient place to chuck in a big cooler... If you extrapolate a good sized HSF cooler to water cooling radiator area you've be surprised how much fin a HSF can pack.

GPU's on the other hand generally have to fit in a rectangular form factor that limits the fan and radiator options. So they're limited in how they can physically arrange their fin areas and where to mount fans. So they just aren't as efficient at getting rid of that heat...

Plus - cooling a CPU won't really net you any real performance gain.
Cooling a GPU to around 60 degrees however will definitely ensure it can hit it's maximal OC and stay there indefinitely.
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Can't comment specifically on the SG13 but I've done a whole bunch of permutations in an Ncase m1.

I'd go AIO for the GPU and air on the CPU..

Cooling is a function of radiator (or HSF ) area and air flow. CPU air coolers don't have any size limit aside from the block out area around the CPU socket where there might be some caps and VRM. So really it's an efficient place to chuck in a big cooler... If you extrapolate a good sized HSF cooler to water cooling radiator area you've be surprised how much fin a HSF can pack.

GPU's on the other hand generally have to fit in a rectangular form factor that limits the fan and radiator options. So they're limited in how they can physically arrange their fin areas and where to mount fans. So they just aren't as efficient at getting rid of that heat...

Plus - cooling a CPU won't really net you any real performance gain.
Cooling a GPU to around 60 degrees however will definitely ensure it can hit it's maximal OC and stay there indefinitely.
I agree with this, particularly as he's getting a locked 65W chip that will be happy under any aftermarket heatsink.

I reckon watercool your GPU and overclock the shit out of it, the 8600 is an amazing chip even at stock so you won't be wanting there IMO.

Go nuts on the GPU, a single 140mm CE rad on just GPU will be HEAPS since even a single 120 on GPU is more than enough.

Alternatively, if you're wanting to make it easier on yourself, get one of these with one of these then mod a window into the RHS panel so you can see the sick waterblock LED's and maybe get one of these on the front for some shameless RGB gratuity.
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Tazor what if I did get a 240 into it, do you reckon that would be enough? Even if it's a thin 240 with maybe thin fans to make it fit?

Do you think a Nano or Fury-X would be harder to cool than a 1080? I might even drop back to a 1060 to make cooling easier.

You can cool an X99 6 core and GTX 970 SLI full cover blocks on a single 120mm.

Pretty much when pushing a radiator, 120mm is good for 400-450W with a 3000RPM fan.

If you look hard enough, you can see two GTX 970s here.

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You have enough room to sandwich two radiators in the front of an SG13 if you want to run an AIO/Hybrid GPU.

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Yeah I saw a few with 2x AIO in there but 80c+ on the CPU isn't a great result, nice thought on the 120 but no way I'm running 3000rpm fans, I like my computer's quiet so cutting fan rpm drops the cooling capacity down to 150w (just throwing numbers up) .

My son's nano-S hits 60s gaming with a 7700k and a 980Ti in the loop, that's a 280 rad and set up quiet too, so not bad all up.

X99 and 2 GPUs on a single 120? Fark my 5960x was hot even with a dedicated loop and 6x the radiator .....

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