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Old 23rd July 2015, 10:48 PM   #61
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But yes, there's no denying Intel have the lead in gaming performance. but it is at a cost
Not when a stock $155 i3 is -stomping- an overclocked $200 FX8320 in gaming tests.

The -only- reason to buy an AMD chip is if you're doing lots of video encoding and you're on a super-tight budget.
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Old 23rd July 2015, 10:59 PM   #62
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http://www.computerbase.de/2012-10/t...350-vishera/6/
http://www.computerbase.de/2012-10/t...350-vishera/7/

FX 8350 vs Phenom 965 is a pretty decent overall improvement .. more so than than the difference between an FX and an ivy i7 even. - Including unrealistic 640x480 CPU tests.

But yes, there's no denying Intel have the lead in gaming performance. but it is at a cost
Vishera s even getting beat by the first gen i7 at stock. I wouldn't really call that a decent improvement.

Really disappointed in Amd. Massive fanboy but I go where the FPS is when it comes to gaming.
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Old 23rd July 2015, 11:28 PM   #63
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Not when a stock $155 i3 is -stomping- an overclocked $200 FX8320 in gaming tests.
Was thinking I should have ninja'd that to mention the i3's. Stomping no, but indeed in games that just don't make good enough use (Still) of cores they fall behind. This will change a lot with DX12, but by then one would hope FX is either history or close to it.



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The -only- reason to buy an AMD chip is if you're doing lots of video encoding and you're on a super-tight budget.
True. I mean the FX's we're talking about are nearly 3 yrs old now. It's quite irrelevent. They are priced pretty decently to compensate for that though. The 8370E in particular is not too bad at all.

FM2+ stuff is still relevent though in its price bracket.

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Vishera s even getting beat by the first gen i7 at stock. I wouldn't really call that a decent improvement.
Well you specifically said vs his PII 945 I was just responding to / disputing that. Unless you consider a 3770k to be "slightly better" than an FX 8350

secondly the first gen i7 in question wasn't that old at the time

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Really disappointed in Amd. Massive fanboy but I go where the FPS is when it comes to gaming.
means you're a Fan not a fanboy

I agree though, it is really disapointing, but what's more disappointing than the lack of competition up there, is even when AMD are putting out good products in the lower end and niche markets they still can't get them off the shelves or into devices.

This Carrizo launch for example. The product looks great for what it is, but it's looking more and more like it's going to end up hidden away in lackluster clamshell's, instead of at least making a bit of a name for itself.

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Old 26th July 2015, 11:10 AM   #64
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What annoys me personally with AMD is that they kept pushing their strength with graphics, but in real life I found this to be a letdown.

I've got two machines that I've ran into issues.

One is a small notebook with AMD APU E-450. The processor is really slow, but the graphics part was talked up to accelerate anything to do with graphics. But the thing can't even handle YouTube videos

Got another system with AMD chipset 880G I believe. Onboard AMD Radeon. Now on Windows 8.1, no proper support anymore. Minimalistic driver with no options and videos are washed out.

So I just don't trust them anymore. My old Intel chipset based notebook, everything works.

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Old 26th July 2015, 8:13 PM   #65
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One is a small notebook with AMD APU E-450. The processor is really slow, but the graphics part was talked up to accelerate anything to do with graphics. But the thing can't even handle YouTube videos
I have an MSI Wind with E-350 (same chip with lower clocks) and I don't have any problems with YouTube (up to 720p, laptop only has 1366x768 display), so your problem may lie elsewhere.
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Old 26th July 2015, 8:16 PM   #66
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I have an MSI Wind with E-350 (same chip with lower clocks) and I don't have any problems with YouTube (up to 720p, laptop only has 1366x768 display), so your problem may lie elsewhere.
Well, where else would it lie? 720p is extremely choppy. Tried IE and Chrome.

I got another one with E-330, same exact thing.
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Old 27th July 2015, 5:05 AM   #67
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Well, where else would it lie? 720p is extremely choppy. Tried IE and Chrome.

I got another one with E-330, same exact thing.
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Old 27th July 2015, 9:48 AM   #68
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Perhaps its a flash player problem? You can force youtube to use html5 video player somewhere in the settings (or disable/uninstall flash player and it should be forced to use html5 player).
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Old 27th July 2015, 1:37 PM   #69
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means you're a Fan not a fanboy

I agree though, it is really disapointing, but what's more disappointing than the lack of competition up there, is even when AMD are putting out good products in the lower end and niche markets they still can't get them off the shelves or into devices.
That sums up my standpoint pretty well... Amd fan, but I go where the performance is... Choice between an amd a10-5800k or fx-6100 and an i7-950, the i7 will end up in my main machine any day

Really want amd to make an absolute intel killer In terms of price and performance, firstly so I can buy one and secondly to stop intel slacking off... Seriously intel could make a 16 core 5.5ghz chip and sell it for less than $500 if they had motivation to go to the level of power consumption of the 9590
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i7 was the nail in the coffin. Let's be honest here, an overclocked 1st gen i7 is still enough for 99% of users/gamers these days...
and this is the point. Whether you consider AMD or Intel, there has been no break though improvement for years. What we have now is the best
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Old 30th August 2015, 7:25 PM   #71
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There is no fight between amd and intel until they actually compile software for amd.

The real fight is amd vs NVidia as 4k is the hot topic.
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There is no fight between amd and intel until they actually compile software for amd.

The real fight is amd vs NVidia as 4k is the hot topic.
AMD need to develop a decent CPU or gpu first
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think DX 12 will help out amd massively - all that xbox dev might just pay off

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/21...head-to-head/2
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4K is the hot topic for some anyway - others are more concerned about 120 fps @ 1440p.
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Old 22nd September 2015, 6:37 PM   #75
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think DX 12 will help out amd massively - all that xbox dev might just pay off

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/21...head-to-head/2
How will Direct X anything be of any benefit to Linux users ?

All DX does is lock you into a Microsoft O/s
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