Cavoodle or King Charles Breeders - Page 2

tunagirll · 11th July 2012, 11:03 AM

Get a purebred, they are great dogs and while they can have issues, the main thing is that a purebred pedigree breeder will have tested their dogs and provide you with evidence of testing.

Cavoodles (cavalier x poodle) pretty much guarantee that the cavalier used to breed from will have had zero genetic testing and therefore can pass those issues on. Crossbreeding doesn't protect you from genetic disease inheritance.

The cavaliers I've met are just lovely dogs and no problems/issues at all.

millhouse · 11th July 2012, 6:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tunagirll

the main thing is that a purebred pedigree breeder will have tested their dogs and provide you with evidence of testing.

I would change the sentance to "more likely to...". There are still a shit load of breeders out there that do no testing with anything, and do not care.

Had a classic dog I saw on Monday for some clients - breeder says they have never heard of the genetic issue that the pup they sold has, even though it is known in the breed. Offered to take the dog back and they would refund the money. When asked what would happen to the pup - "it'll be put down." Such classy people.

Not all breeders are like that at all. But I certainly would not lump all purebred breeders into the same caring group.

Melzawelza · 12th July 2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by millhouse

I would change the sentance to "more likely to...". There are still a shit load of breeders out there that do no testing with anything, and do not care.

Had a classic dog I saw on Monday for some clients - breeder says they have never heard of the genetic issue that the pup they sold has, even though it is known in the breed. Offered to take the dog back and they would refund the money. When asked what would happen to the pup - "it'll be put down." Such classy people.

Not all breeders are like that at all. But I certainly would not lump all purebred breeders into the same caring group.

This is true. Registered breeders are much, much more likely to do the right thing but there are still dodgy ones like the ones Millhouse describes. So always research the health tests available for the breed you're interested in and then request to see evidence of the results from the breeder before committing.

millhouse · 12th July 2012, 12:38 AM

Indeed-ily dood-ily

munchkin1 · 12th July 2012, 12:56 AM

I have a beautiful cavalier king charles

She's always been a 'lap dog', very affectionate, follows us around the house, etc

Very docile, never had problems with digging or eating shoes and stuff.

She's edging on 10 years old now and unfortunately her health is going downhill. She has never had any major health issues before but for the past 2 years or so has been on heart medication for the common cavvie heart issues.

She just had a vet checkup and the poor girl is now at stage 5 (out of 6) of congestive heart failure or something like that

Not that you'd know it by seeing her. She is also getting arthiritis in her legs and particularly on cold mornings, she limps quite badly. It's very painful to see her like that. However she's still as cheerful as ever, she sleeps a lot more now but still runs around the house and backyard with us and goes crazy at dinner time.

Unfortunately the heart problems do seem to be quite common though. She has become very much a member of the family and I hate to think that she is nearing the end of her life

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akashra · 15th July 2012, 7:32 PM

We got a King Charles Cavaleir x Bichon Frise about 4 months ago for dad, and he's been great. I've just put my name down for a Maltese x Cav which I'll pick up next weekend when they're old enough - the idea being that it's got 6 months to be trained before moving in to a new house that'll be mostly empty during the day.

People bitch to no end when you get a pup from anywhere but a pound, it's kinda sick really.

millhouse · 15th July 2012, 8:58 PM

Why do you think it is "sick" that people point out that getting an animal from the pound may be a better thing to do? Pound animals are not for everyone, but there is no doubt that by purchasing dogs/cats elsewhere that you are encouraging more breeding and in turn causing the death of one other animal.

How do you say no to a a little cavvy though?

bboredd · 23rd July 2012, 5:04 AM

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Originally Posted by millhouse

How do you say no to a a little cavvy though?

The thought of long term costs for pimo and fortekor lol.

kix · 23rd July 2012, 6:42 AM

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Originally Posted by akashra

People bitch to no end when you get a pup from anywhere but a pound, it's kinda sick really.

Word

OP, get any dog you want from whoever you want.
It's your money.

11th July 2012, 11:03 AM	#16
tunagirll Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mount Helena, WA Posts: 3,400	Get a purebred, they are great dogs and while they can have issues, the main thing is that a purebred pedigree breeder will have tested their dogs and provide you with evidence of testing. Cavoodles (cavalier x poodle) pretty much guarantee that the cavalier used to breed from will have had zero genetic testing and therefore can pass those issues on. Crossbreeding doesn't protect you from genetic disease inheritance. The cavaliers I've met are just lovely dogs and no problems/issues at all. __________________ Originally Posted by VooDoo I know the areas pretty well and lockyer creek will definitely flood but a 7m wall of water.. thats just being silly

12th July 2012, 12:38 AM	#19
millhouse Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Cleveland, Brisbane Posts: 1,038	Indeed-ily dood-ily __________________ Taking Veterinary advice from a breeder is like taking Gynaecological advice from a pimp.

12th July 2012, 12:56 AM	#20
munchkin1 Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,652	I have a beautiful cavalier king charles She's always been a 'lap dog', very affectionate, follows us around the house, etc Very docile, never had problems with digging or eating shoes and stuff. She's edging on 10 years old now and unfortunately her health is going downhill. She has never had any major health issues before but for the past 2 years or so has been on heart medication for the common cavvie heart issues. She just had a vet checkup and the poor girl is now at stage 5 (out of 6) of congestive heart failure or something like that Not that you'd know it by seeing her. She is also getting arthiritis in her legs and particularly on cold mornings, she limps quite badly. It's very painful to see her like that. However she's still as cheerful as ever, she sleeps a lot more now but still runs around the house and backyard with us and goes crazy at dinner time. Unfortunately the heart problems do seem to be quite common though. She has become very much a member of the family and I hate to think that she is nearing the end of her life Click to view full-sized image! [url=http://imagestore.ugbox.net]Hosted by UGBox Image Last edited by munchkin1; 12th July 2012 at 1:04 AM.

15th July 2012, 7:32 PM	#21
akashra Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 3,337	We got a King Charles Cavaleir x Bichon Frise about 4 months ago for dad, and he's been great. I've just put my name down for a Maltese x Cav which I'll pick up next weekend when they're old enough - the idea being that it's got 6 months to be trained before moving in to a new house that'll be mostly empty during the day. People bitch to no end when you get a pup from anywhere but a pound, it's kinda sick really. __________________ Punctuation is the difference between "Let's eat, grandma!" and "Let's eat grandma!". Building a Metricon Delta 21 in Craigieburn: http://homeofzero.blogspot.com/

15th July 2012, 8:58 PM	#22
millhouse Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Cleveland, Brisbane Posts: 1,038	Why do you think it is "sick" that people point out that getting an animal from the pound may be a better thing to do? Pound animals are not for everyone, but there is no doubt that by purchasing dogs/cats elsewhere that you are encouraging more breeding and in turn causing the death of one other animal. How do you say no to a a little cavvy though? __________________ Taking Veterinary advice from a breeder is like taking Gynaecological advice from a pimp.