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Old 10th February 2012, 3:27 PM   #31
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10% ready mixed coolant to di is the common ratio from back in the day. How far back in the day? Car heater core back in the day.

Makes shit green or red though - clear tube included.
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Old 10th February 2012, 5:39 PM   #32
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Creekin's rant commencing shortly.....
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Old 15th February 2012, 3:11 AM   #33
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EK are not fine a new video has been released

http://www.realredraider.com/vbullet...=47617&page=13

See for yourself a flaking block.

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Video upload to submit flaking issue of EK waterblock. Product is newly-opened and not yet used.

The waterblock is not yet used as I am still waiting on some final parts to complete my build. I opened it just to check and noticed that the outer surface is already exhibiting signs of flaking/wear. I initially tried to wipe it with a soft cloth and unfortunately the nickel plating continued to flake. I tried to rub with my hands and apparently the entire waterblock flaked (like skin peeling off when you have a sunburn). The entire outer surface of the waterblock peeled off.

I opened the waterblock to inspect the inside surface. It did not flake but I fear that it eventually will, because if my understanding is correct, the entire inside and outside surface is treated/plated. Also I took some pictures. The inside surface has two metal "bars". I took pictures of the bars from the left and right side. One side seemed smooth but the other appears rough (like chipped skin from sunburn or chapped lips) and I fear that this side is where flaking may start to happen.
Buy German made and designed water-cooling products. Germany has strict manufacturing and product quality regulation unlike Slovenia (EK), Korea and China (Swiftech, XSPC, Koolance, etc).

I mainly buy from German companies like Watercool, MIPS and Aquacomputer and guess what I have perfect blocks, perfect plating and little or no machining marks. The only Asian based company have watercooling gear from is Bitspower and they are Taiwanese.

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Old 15th February 2012, 8:54 AM   #34
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aeidau, I have been using XSPC gear for about 3.5 years now and I have never had a problem with any of their blocks or other accessories. I have used probably 16-20 different CPU, GPU and Chipset blocks over the years in many different systems and not one has ever had a problem with quality, fitting, finish and for the price, it was even better.

Like many, i wont be touching EK for a long time, despite liking their blocks and using many over the years also.
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Old 15th February 2012, 10:08 AM   #35
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EK are not fine a new video has been released

http://www.realredraider.com/vbullet...=47617&page=13

See for yourself a flaking block.
Yeah that seems like a place for a balanced opinion.

And the flaking is coming off and leaving nickel behind, not copper.


EDIT: LMAO - how immature is that board.

http://www.realredraider.com/vbullet...&postcount=314

Thank god for impartial moderation and forum control.

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Is that the same twat who was trying to score business out of the EK flaking issue? Slamming EK and at the same time promoting his or friends plating business?
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trolls trolling trolls.
inb4 Red posts here
inb4 thread shutdown
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Is that the same twat who was trying to score business out of the EK flaking issue? Slamming EK and at the same time promoting his or friends plating business?
yep. because he uses strong, american made plating, by americans, for americans.
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MERIKUH!! F*CK YEAH!!!
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Old 16th February 2012, 2:41 AM   #40
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And the flaking is coming off and leaving nickel behind, not copper.
You would be an idiot consider this to be acceptable. Under ACCC regulations this product would be considered to be faulty. Go back to shopping at MSY. It's the same situation they are just milking ignorant customers who put up with their shit. It's the human centipede of consumerism.


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Is that the same twat who was trying to score business out of the EK flaking issue? Slamming EK and at the same time promoting his or friends plating business?
Don't comment on what you don't know. It's a normal legitimate business arrangement and of course anyone would back up their product/service in the same situation. You do know how capitalism works right?
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You would be an idiot consider this to be acceptable. Under ACCC regulations this product would be considered to be faulty. Go back to shopping at MSY. It's the same situation they are just milking ignorant customers who put up with their shit. It's the human centipede of consumerism.

Ok, All I said is that it was strange that the flaking nickel reveals more nickel underneath, usually you would expect that for a nickle plated, copper object to flake, the material exposed beneath would be copper. AND YOU DON'T SEE ANY COPPER AT ANY STAGE OF THAT VIDEO.

But no lets rant about MSY, and other shoddy business practises, because you haven't missed/avoided the point at all.

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Don't comment on what you don't know. It's a normal legitimate business arrangement and of course anyone would back up their product/service in the same situation. You do know how capitalism works right?
It is called a conflict of interests. And while it may be a part of capitalism, it is at best, a shady part.
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I've been hearing stories of people using car coolant and the green shit seperating and clogging out your waterblocks, you need to know that car radiator and cooling system isn't as complex and intricate as a pc with multi blocks.


Just go demin/distilled water and get a bottle of Liquid Utopia, best and most safest way of watercooling.. Add a 99.9 pure silver piece for extra safeness if needbe (don't neeed to if using liq utop)
i have been running nulon red for almost 3yrs now in 1 loop. Never had any buildup or floating bits. Cleaned some fluff out of the heatkiller block once from the initial build and thats it. Also using a EK/heatkiller block and no issues at all lol.

Heatkiller block also looks brand new inside not even tainted and i dont use kill coils.

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Scratch Koolance to that list.

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what exactly is wrong with that block?
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Obvious RRR shill is obvious.
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Old 16th February 2012, 9:01 AM   #44
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i love these kinds of threads. very entertaining indeed lol

what ever it is ek have done, they have done it well as ppl still want there blocks. personally i wont touch them again. but each to there own. being shafted once is enough for me to never want there rubbish blocks again. especially when there are so many good blocks about today from other manufacturers who dont blame there customers when things go wrong.
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i love these kinds of threads. very entertaining indeed lol

what ever it is ek have done, they have done it well as ppl still want there blocks. personally i wont touch them again. but each to there own. being shafted once is enough for me to never want there rubbish blocks again. especially when there are so many good blocks about today from other manufacturers who dont blame there customers when things go wrong.
every company has dodgy blocks, i had a heatkiller block almost destroy my videocard because it wasn't machined properly.

I agree the ek do have issues with some of their blocks but i also think that people are dreaming if they think a plain distilled loop with a kill coil and no corrosion protection is safe aswell esp when mixing metals / plating etc.
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