955BE 4.2ghz STOCK VOLTS!

[zero_velocity]

Yeh its the Thubans that overclocked a lot better.... however Ive noticed the Deneb architecture has matured GREATLY over the last 12 months or so (could have started a lot sooner) but yea I picked up a little dual core 65W for my server build which is currently idling on 19 degrees with an ambient of 25 with a cm evo on it...

[Madengineer]

Originally Posted by .Radiant

Very little differences between clocking on a good air cooler or water with amd. You don't magically get a few extra hundred MHz just because of it.

Yeah ya do, Higher mhz usually means more volts, more volts means more heat, more heat means you need a better cooler, Water cooling is better than Air cooling.

Originally Posted by AEKaBeer

Clocking on air I never broke 3.9GHZ with either of my Deneb chips, whereas my Thuban hit 4.1GHz using the same cooler.

Well i got to 4.2ghz on my 955.....All be it, ambient temperatures were near on freezing (With an EVO)

[zero_velocity]

Originally Posted by Madengineer

Yeah ya do, Higher mhz usually means more volts, more volts means more heat, more heat means you need a better cooler, Water cooling is better than Air cooling.

Thanks for reciting the basic laws of OC'ing a CPU, but radiant is right.

[.Radiant]

Hardly, at the very most you get better 24/7 clocks compared to air. Most amd chips get to 4.0 relatively easy, after that you need to bump up the volts something serious. You will rarely see people run anything higher than 4.2-4.3 regardless of water or air because thats where the wall for the chips tends to be. Only time you will see higher is if people run ridiculous volts (1.6v+) or they run subzero.

[Madengineer]

Originally Posted by .Radiant

Hardly, at the very most you get better 24/7 clocks compared to air. Most amd chips get to 4.0 relatively easy, after that you need to bump up the volts something serious. You will rarely see people run anything higher than 4.2-4.3 regardless of water or air because thats where the wall for the chips tends to be. Only time you will see higher is if people run ridiculous volts (1.6v+) or they run subzero.

On 1.5 volts, i run my chip at 4.2ghz, max temp on air is 55-58ish. With a H100 max temp was 48-55 Thats a pretty big difference.

[zero_velocity]

Originally Posted by Madengineer

On 1.5 volts, i run my chip at 4.2ghz, max temp on air is 55-58ish. With a H100 max temp was 48-55 Thats a pretty big difference.

as radiant stated before, that will be the wall for your chip, to push it harder will require a LOT more voltage, its an exponential function of frequency achieved vs. voltage required for stability

What radiant is saying is that with either water cooling or a good air cooler, you can get 4.2ghz, however to get higher you need sub zero or the likes.

Also its worth nothing that these chips (afaik) have a frequency limit due to the memory controller on board becoming unstable

[AEKaBeer]

Originally Posted by Madengineer

Well i got to 4.2ghz on my 955.

Pfft 4 cores at 4.2 isn't as impressive as 6 at 4.1

[Madengineer]

Originally Posted by zero_velocity

as radiant stated before, that will be the wall for your chip, to push it harder will require a LOT more voltage, its an exponential function of frequency achieved vs. voltage required for stability

What radiant is saying is that with either water cooling or a good air cooler, you can get 4.2ghz, however to get higher you need sub zero or the likes

No, what radiant was saying there was no/little difference between air and water on AMD chips....

Originally Posted by .Radiant

Very little differences between clocking on a good air cooler or water with amd. You don't magically get a few extra hundred MHz just because of it.

Originally Posted by AEKaBeer

Pfft 4 cores at 4.2 isn't as impressive as 6 at 4.1

Considering all i do is game, 6 cores is of little use to me. Unless word and FF require 6 cores? Denebs also use less power than Thubans as well......

[.Radiant]

No difference in overclocking... never said you wont get lower temps.

[zero_velocity]

Originally Posted by Madengineer

Considering all i do is game, 6 cores is of little use to me. Unless word and FF require 6 cores? Denebs also use less power than Thubans as well......

Thubans have a slightly faster single threaded performance over the Denebs as they are a refined architecture derived from Deneb.

Games are quite capable and love as many cores as possible, i.e. BF3, is scalable to as many cores as you can give it....

P.s. Thubans use less power than Denebs.

[RAtSAcK]

Madengineer, you make me laugh.

You think you know everything but time and time again, you're proven wrong but just hate to admit it.

[Madengineer]

Originally Posted by RAtSAcK

Madengineer, you make me laugh.

You think you know everything but time and time again, you're proven wrong but just hate to admit it.

again another very sad person on this forum. I mean seriously, you act all tough on here. I guess you have no life......

[zero_velocity]

Mad, its the internet, not a 50's milkshake bar, heres a few tips for you;

1. Research. If you want to know something, google, bing etc are your friends, just dont make the mistake of blindly quoting misinformation, and don't go making a thread every time you have a small issue, 90% of problems are already solved with detailed solutions online.

2. Harden up princess. Stop expecting everyone to pat you on the back when you fuck up, believe me in life when you screw up what your seeing here is the top of the iceberg.

3. Dont go saying;

Originally Posted by Madengineer

again another very sad person on this forum. I mean seriously, you act all tough on here. I guess you have no life......

its a bit weird, corny and all-round douchey. If you got someone posting something offensive, report it and ignore it.

4. Accept the fact that there will ALWAYS be someone smarter, faster, stronger, etc, than you. Members on these forums consist of computer engineers (such as myself) and they can be extremely knowledgeable on such topics.

5. You have only been a member on these forums what, 9-10 months? I remember helping you out some time ago with teaching you to overclock. Trust me when I say it takes years to get a solid grounding in computer hardware etc.

Dude, you got good intentions, a strong enthusiasm and good spirit. Your just going about it all the wrong way. Its the internet, not touchy feely lovey crap you see re congested on TV every night.

Oh P.s. Do yourself a favour and dont start threads such as about the amount of swearing on the forum, when you yourself are a prime contributor, its downright hypocritical.

[remi.]

Originally Posted by Madengineer

again another very sad person on this forum. I mean seriously, you act all tough on here. I guess you have no life......

Hey great comeback! For someone that posts pointless drivel in almost every thread, you shouldn't be poking fun at someone for not having a life

[Ethan W]

Originally Posted by zero_velocity

P.s. Thubans use less power than Denebs.

Per core, yes. Overall though, they use a little more [Source]. There doesn't seem to be many hard numbers on the 960T Power comsumption (as they didn't get a proper public release, they just started showing up late in the game), but from what I can tell looking around some other forums, the Zosma 960Ts are more efficient than the Denebs.

Madengineer, the H100 doesn't really count as watercooling. It's the best of the sealed units, but it's still in high-end air territory. I'm not saying they're bad, just that it's not what people mean by water.