Nikon D600 - An entry level camera FULL FRAME?! - Page 4

csremedy · 31st May 2012, 9:23 AM

Funnily enough, ISO is not just three letters randomly chosen. It is actually reference to an International Standard published by the International Organisation for Standardisation.

Film speed is specified in ISO 5800:2001
Digital Camera sensor sensitivity is specified in ISO 12232:2006

Yes, there are allowances in these standards for small variations but by and large, different sensors will capture the same amount of light when using the same ISO (all other things being equal). If there was more than 1/3 of a stop difference between two cameras then something in the chain is not right (camera, lens, filter, user).

Power47 · 31st May 2012, 9:40 AM

its just the composition. his shot is shooting areas of more light

^catalyst · 31st May 2012, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lithos

Or the ISO ratings are fudged differently between the cameras - it happens.

sure does, canon tends to be a little hot, their 100 is more like 125 for example.

DiZZ_19 · 14th June 2012, 4:49 PM

Why hello there!

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/06/14/fi...px/#more-40710

Look like D7000 style controls. ie mode dial on the left shoulder rather than a button next to the shutter finger.

I can see a U1/U2 setting there so thats nice.

The affordable FX walkabout to accompany this was officially announced today as well: AF-S 24-85 3.5-4.5 VR

Gnatty · 14th June 2012, 5:39 PM

Has inbuilt AF motor too. I want one.

sconosciuto · 14th June 2012, 6:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiZZ_19

Why hello there!

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/06/14/fi...px/#more-40710

Look like D7000 style controls. ie mode dial on the left shoulder rather than a button next to the shutter finger.

I can see a U1/U2 setting there so thats nice.

OMG

It looks quite small, but pity that it's so heavy. I wonder what size it is relative to the D3200?

ElBeasto · 14th June 2012, 7:42 PM

I'm glad they brought back that 24-85, it's meant to be better than the existing f/2.8-f/4 version.
That is if it's anything like the one that got discontinued.

Good kit lens for the D600 too.

Zee · 14th June 2012, 8:16 PM

100% viewfinder coverage for Fx, and 97% for Dx... wtf? How does that work?

From here...

This is making it hard to stick with Canon...

Z...

kini_mini · 14th June 2012, 8:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee

100% viewfinder coverage for Fx, and 97% for Dx... wtf? How does that work?

From here...

This is making it hard to stick with Canon...

Z...

I guess you could shoot FX and then crop in post - then it'd be 100% for DX lol

I have a feeling the D600 is going to push the value of my 5D2 down even further...

DVDHack · 15th June 2012, 6:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee

This is making it hard to stick with Canon...

Z...

Doesn't that really depend on what glass you have? I was envious of the 5DMk2 for a long time because I shoot landscape and really wanted more pixels than my D700 had but with the investment in lenses I had it just didn't make sense. Lenses really are the most important part of the equipment part of the equation.

I do still hope that Nikon will release a 17mm TS such as Canons.

I think the D600 will be the answer to the prayer of many people that shoot landscape (wide angle) and cant afford a D700 or D800. By the looks of it, it will be the equivalent of the D5100 in FF. I think it will come in somewhere between $1500 and $2000.

lithos · 15th June 2012, 6:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ^catalyst

sure does, canon tends to be a little hot, their 100 is more like 125 for example.

It tends to run hot for the lower ISOs, and cold for the higher ones. I remember reading that some cameras ISO "800" was closer to 640, 1600 was closer to 1200, etc.

sconosciuto · 15th June 2012, 7:01 AM

Well comparing the size difference, comparing the size of the body to the lens flange it actually seems just a fraction larger than the d40/d60/d3100 series...

If this is a real leak, then my prayers have been answered. I have been hoping for a FX sensor in a small body.

mysteriousjimmy · 15th June 2012, 10:13 AM

Mmmm D600 with the new 28/1.8 .... might have to sell my D7000 when I make it back home

sir_bazz · 15th June 2012, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lithos

It tends to run hot for the lower ISOs, and cold for the higher ones. I remember reading that some cameras ISO "800" was closer to 640, 1600 was closer to 1200, etc.

DxO measure the true ISO at all ISO levels.

Canon, on average, are furthest away from performing at the listed ISO's. Helps to make the images look cleaner at a specific ISO I guess.

ElBeasto · 15th June 2012, 10:50 AM

I've put my D700 up for sale so I can get ths new body, looks like a great camera for amateurs prepared to pay for FX.

I've not used a body with a mode dial like this before, I can't imagine it's any worse than the D700 mode changing function.

Mostly looking forward to the %100 viewfinder and extra res.

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31st May 2012, 9:23 AM	#46
csremedy Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 257	Funnily enough, ISO is not just three letters randomly chosen. It is actually reference to an International Standard published by the International Organisation for Standardisation. Film speed is specified in ISO 5800:2001 Digital Camera sensor sensitivity is specified in ISO 12232:2006 Yes, there are allowances in these standards for small variations but by and large, different sensors will capture the same amount of light when using the same ISO (all other things being equal). If there was more than 1/3 of a stop difference between two cameras then something in the chain is not right (camera, lens, filter, user).

14th June 2012, 7:42 PM	#52
ElBeasto Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,909	I'm glad they brought back that 24-85, it's meant to be better than the existing f/2.8-f/4 version. That is if it's anything like the one that got discontinued. Good kit lens for the D600 too.

15th June 2012, 7:01 AM	#57
sconosciuto Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Back in the USSR Posts: 497	Well comparing the size difference, comparing the size of the body to the lens flange it actually seems just a fraction larger than the d40/d60/d3100 series... If this is a real leak, then my prayers have been answered. I have been hoping for a FX sensor in a small body.

15th June 2012, 10:50 AM	#60
ElBeasto Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,909	I've put my D700 up for sale so I can get ths new body, looks like a great camera for amateurs prepared to pay for FX. I've not used a body with a mode dial like this before, I can't imagine it's any worse than the D700 mode changing function. Mostly looking forward to the %100 viewfinder and extra res.