Leica M-Monochrom - Page 10

vindicator · 18th August 2012, 9:01 PM

I forgot about this terrible thread.

Does a camera make you happy?

Do you enjoy using it?

Great.

Buy it.

Live life.

oculi · 18th August 2012, 9:21 PM

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Originally Posted by triggerpeg

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Harley Davidsons = belt driven/old tech

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wat? belt driven as opposed to what?

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Originally Posted by vindicator

Does a camera make you happy?

Do you enjoy using it?

Great.

Buy it.

Live life.

absolutely, i used to rage when i see the awful results people produce with their 5D mach whatever is brand new with their gray Lenses hanging off the front, but now i just don't care. if they can justify spending more on their hobby than me then good on them.

However this camera has made me realise that a camera with a monochrome sensor isn't the amazing breakthrough I thought it would be, but i wish john voight would get off his ass and make a digital M camera.

i skipped through most of that video, was it interesting?

triggerpeg · 18th August 2012, 9:30 PM

Pretty obvious. Chain. What else is there?

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Originally Posted by oculi

wat? belt driven as opposed to what?

oculi · 18th August 2012, 9:33 PM

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Originally Posted by triggerpeg

Pretty obvious. Chain. What else is there?

shaft drive, and friction drive but not very many motorbikes have that. oh and electric drive.

so belt drive is "old tech" compared to chain drive?

you do realise harleys were chain drive for decades before they were belt drive, and that they were still chain drive before modern sports bikes were even though of?

let me ask you the ultimate question, if you had the disposable income to buy one, would you buy one? (a leica, not a harley)

triggerpeg · 18th August 2012, 9:38 PM

7 years ago yeah just to fit into that crowd/lifestyle. Now? No. I pretty much have every thing + more than I ever need

Oh. And I wouldnt mind hiring a Harley now for the weekend these days.

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Originally Posted by oculi

...disposable income to buy one, would you buy one? (a leica, not a harley)

zach · 18th August 2012, 9:40 PM

I would pick a bike over a Leica, that's for sure.

crispy12 · 18th August 2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by oculi

i skipped through most of that video, was it interesting?

it's interesting if you like rangefinders, otherwise not much really. apparently the VF is quite bright and clear, and the high ISO quality is relatively low noise.

oculi · 19th August 2012, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by crispy12

it's interesting if you like rangefinders, otherwise not much really. apparently the VF is quite bright and clear, and the high ISO quality is relatively low noise.

i love rangefinders, but i also like money and if i bought a leica i wouldn't have any anymore.

crispy12 · 19th August 2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by oculi

i love rangefinders, but i also like money and if i bought a leica i wouldn't have any anymore.

that's rubbish, you can buy a Leica for under a $1000 easily.

Tiger Toast · 19th August 2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vindicator

To this:

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What the fuck is that shit?

Seriously tho this thread was a great read. I can't believe how many people start to wuhuhuhu as soon as other people spend their money 'frivolously'.

oculi · 19th August 2012, 1:06 PM

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Originally Posted by crispy12

that's rubbish, you can buy a Leica for under a $1000 easily.

my canonet QL-17 does what i want out of a rangefinder and it cost 25 bucks. i'm referring to digital rangefinders, if i wanted another film RF i'd buy a bessa.

only thing that qualifies to compete with the M9 (ie large sensor rangefinder) is the X pro-1, and i can;t justify the price of that either.

crispy12 · 19th August 2012, 1:21 PM

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Originally Posted by oculi

my canonet QL-17 does what i want out of a rangefinder and it cost 25 bucks. i'm referring to digital rangefinders, if i wanted another film RF i'd buy a bessa.

only thing that qualifies to compete with the M9 (ie large sensor rangefinder) is the X pro-1, and i can;t justify the price of that either.

Yeah bessas are really good. I started with a Canonet which was great but the Bessa's viewfinder just blew it away. Try one if you can, I doubt you'd touch the Canonet again. It's slightly better than the average Leica M6 VF, which says a lot considering the price.

Kinda disagree with the X pro or x100 though. They're completely different in actual usage, if they were even remotely similar in shooting style I'd have bought it ages ago. You can get a M8 for approx $2k, quite an old camera but it's the closest resemblance I've found to a film RF after going through all the alternatives. I'd have bought the RD1 if repair services were more readily available, I think obscuredid was selling one for $900.

Azrael · 19th August 2012, 1:24 PM

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Originally Posted by crispy12

Yeah bessas are really good. I started with a Canonet which was great but the Bessa's viewfinder just blew it away. Try one if you can, I doubt you'd touch the Canonet again. It's slightly better than the average Leica M6 VF, which says a lot considering the price.

Kinda disagree with the X pro or x100 though. They're completely different in actual usage, if they were even remotely similar in shooting style I'd have bought it ages ago.

I quite like my little CanonetGIII. But i don't put enough frames through it.

Oh and the range finder portion of it has died. Its now just a manual camera.

oculi · 19th August 2012, 3:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crispy12

Yeah bessas are really good. I started with a Canonet which was great but the Bessa's viewfinder just blew it away. Try one if you can, I doubt you'd touch the Canonet again. It's slightly better than the average Leica M6 VF, which says a lot considering the price.

Kinda disagree with the X pro or x100 though. They're completely different in actual usage, if they were even remotely similar in shooting style I'd have bought it ages ago. You can get a M8 for approx $2k, quite an old camera but it's the closest resemblance I've found to a film RF after going through all the alternatives. I'd have bought the RD1 if repair services were more readily available, I think obscuredid was selling one for $900.

I meant that the Xpro is the only other camera that is remotely similar to the M9, i'm sure it doesn't compete with it. you can barely even get a decent P&S with an OVF, just the canon G12 and the nikon coolpix P7100 really.

so if you want a (new) digital rangefinder your choice is an M9 or an Xpro1.

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Originally Posted by Azrael

I quite like my little CanonetGIII. But i don't put enough frames through it.

Oh and the range finder portion of it has died. Its now just a manual camera.

the light meter on mine is dead but the focus is still great, i'd shoot film more but i know i hardly ever get around to developing it, so i really want a digi RF. i was thinking about getting a sigma DP2 again but i'm not going to spend 700 bucks on something that is so hard to use based on my experience from my DP1.

^catalyst · 20th August 2012, 9:56 AM

The Xpro1/X100 may look Leica-ish but the experience couldn't be more different. Have used both.

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