"Hard Disk Sentinel" Discussion Thread

Jaco · 21st May 2012, 4:46 PM

Simple discussion thread for the program "Hard Disk Sentinel"

Heres a link on it: http://www.hdsentinel.com/

If you haven't heard about it, it's another program which has been out for quite some time - it gives you information about all of your Harddrives within your machine, what their Performance and Health is, how long they have been running for overall and how much life is left in them.

It is pretty handy, I have used it for quite some time now myself and quite a few popular raid cards are supported too so you are able to read your information for individual disks off of them, etc.

Here's a few screenshots as an example of some crappy drives I got really cheap to check it out - so far it has been pretty accurate seeing as a poor condition 1TB drive a friend had died within the 10 days of life remaining as reported by the program.

Show us some screenshots of your heavily used drives and lets see whats up

Flamin Joe · 21st May 2012, 4:55 PM

I've been using it for a while. It's not a bad program. The thing I find laughable though is that I have a drive that I was testing which has 1632 bad sectors, 23 weak sectors with an overall health of 9%, and the generic text reads: "At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further."

Shall I wait till it's totally rooted before sending back for warranty?!?

Sounds like their working for the HDD manufacturers.

Once it's started developing bad sectors it's off to RMA as far as I'm concerned.

Jaco · 21st May 2012, 6:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamin Joe

I've been using it for a while. It's not a bad program. The thing I find laughable though is that I have a drive that I was testing which has 1632 bad sectors, 23 weak sectors with an overall health of 9%, and the generic text reads: "At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further."

Shall I wait till it's totally rooted before sending back for warranty?!?

Sounds like their working for the HDD manufacturers.

Once it's started developing bad sectors it's off to RMA as far as I'm concerned.

Ha ha still not replacable yet? Lol, even people RMA their drives at umart if they've got one bad sector

JonnoHR31 · 21st May 2012, 7:35 PM

All green here.

nowlan · 21st May 2012, 11:50 PM

Wow, you guys got more errors, but longer life expectancy.

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-- Physical Disk Information - Disk: #1: WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 --

Hard Disk Summary
-------------------
Hard Disk Number . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1
Interface . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : S-ATA II
Disk Controller . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (ATA)
Disk Location . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Channel 0, Target 0, Lun 0, Device: 0
Hard Disk Model ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0
Firmware Revision . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 51.0AB51
Hard Disk Serial Number . . . . . . . . . . . . : WD-WCAZA3600660
Total Size . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1907726 MB
Power State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Active
Logical Drive(s) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : D: [New Volume]
Current Temperature . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 29 °C
Power On Time . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 141 days, 6 hours
Estimated Remaining Lifetime . . . . . . . . . . : 54 days
Health . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ###----------------- 18 % (Bad)
Performance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : #################### 100 % (Excellent)

The drive found 69 bad sectors during its self test.
There are 69 weak sectors found on the disk surface. They may be remapped any time in the later use of the disk.
At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further.
It is recommended to examine the log of the disk regularly. All new problems found will be logged there.
It is recommended to backup immediately to prevent data loss.

---
My seagate 120mb has been on 480 days, and less errors.

---
when can i claim rma?
wdc.com
Our web services are currently unavailable for system maintenance. During this time the following services will be unavailable:

Jaco · 22nd May 2012, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nowlan

Wow, you guys got more errors, but longer life expectancy.

---
-- Physical Disk Information - Disk: #1: WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 --

Hard Disk Summary
-------------------
Hard Disk Number . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1
Interface . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : S-ATA II
Disk Controller . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (ATA)
Disk Location . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Channel 0, Target 0, Lun 0, Device: 0
Hard Disk Model ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0
Firmware Revision . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 51.0AB51
Hard Disk Serial Number . . . . . . . . . . . . : WD-WCAZA3600660
Total Size . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1907726 MB
Power State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Active
Logical Drive(s) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : D: [New Volume]
Current Temperature . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 29 °C
Power On Time . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 141 days, 6 hours
Estimated Remaining Lifetime . . . . . . . . . . : 54 days
Health . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ###----------------- 18 % (Bad)
Performance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : #################### 100 % (Excellent)

The drive found 69 bad sectors during its self test.
There are 69 weak sectors found on the disk surface. They may be remapped any time in the later use of the disk.
At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further.
It is recommended to examine the log of the disk regularly. All new problems found will be logged there.
It is recommended to backup immediately to prevent data loss.

---
My seagate 120mb has been on 480 days, and less errors.

---
when can i claim rma?
wdc.com
Our web services are currently unavailable for system maintenance. During this time the following services will be unavailable:

If you're able to give the disk a FULL format (not Quick) - then do so, most of the times for me it will force the bad sectors to be remapped. However your health percentage is very low - so i'd say if your drive was still under warrenty, it might be something to consider.

If you've ever RMA'd a WD drive before, you'll know how long it takes due to it being the only place done overseas - and that you have to pay postage.

LostBenji · 22nd May 2012, 7:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco

If you've ever RMA'd a WD drive before, you'll know how long it takes due to it being the only place done overseas - and that you have to pay postage.

Don't forget, high chance you won't get same model or series drive back either.

Got burnt every time with WD changing/swapping drives, fat lot of good with RAID.....

rowan194 · 22nd May 2012, 7:59 AM

They really need to change the wording of the warning about warranty, or remove it completely. It sounds very authoritative when it may be completely wrong. I've RMA'd drives with "only" a few bad sectors before, they were accepted.

LostBenji · 22nd May 2012, 10:38 AM

Ok, I decided I would give the program a run. Downloaded the trial version and installed on my workstation. Picked up both my SSD's fine. It also seen my pair of 500GB's in Dynamic RAID-1 and reported them as fine but with issues. I have guessed this to be due to the drives currently Resyncing (bloody Win7 resume from sleep loves jamming since using dynamic RAID and requireing hard reset).

Now I also placed it onto my server to see what it found, well..........
It seen my OS drive and flagged it at 9% health but still "Fine" ???????
It seen my 4-drive RAID-10 array on an Adaptec as a single drive with no more info obviously.
It then seen all 8 drives on my 16-port 3ware RAID (2x 4-drive RAID-5 arrays) and proceeded to give the shits to my RAID card that then dumped 6 out of 8.... Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Now rebuilding the arrays again.

The strange part is that it can see the drives indipendantly through the 3ware, has me surprised.

Jaco · 22nd May 2012, 9:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostBenji

The strange part is that it can see the drives indipendantly through the 3ware, has me surprised.

On all of my arrays it sees all of the disks independantly too, so it's normal

TRG.dOinK · 22nd May 2012, 11:08 PM

No one likes or uses HD Tune?

LostBenji · 23rd May 2012, 7:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco

On all of my arrays it sees all of the disks independantly too, so it's normal

Hardware RAID when working will only present one physical and logical drive to system.

Jaco · 23rd May 2012, 5:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRG.dOinK

No one likes or uses HD Tune?

Yeah - but we like seeing proper displayed drive life too

LostBenji · 24th May 2012, 7:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco

Yeah - but we like seeing proper displayed drive life too

Displayed life ?

That is it's own guestimate and I place no faith in it considering it has told me my servers OS drive should have died already but funny enough, it is still going strong with 100+ MB/sec R/W's and Windows has found NO bad blocks what-so-ever..... I trust the OS using the drive more than a third-party app.

Should I also note that I have noticed if flag drives as weak due to having failed spin retry count (does this with any disk in dynamic arrays.

Arggghhhhh, just dumped another pair of drives out of my array- UNINSTALLED.

Jaco · 11th June 2012, 2:01 AM

Well here's a screenshot for you guys

Turned my system on tonight and got flashing drive warnings from the app - Seems that what was a 98% healthy drive yesterday with over 1000 days left of its life, has now strangely turned into this

and yet to my shock!

! I can't claim warranty, hahaha.
I probably couldn't regardless because it's a drive pulled from an external retail enclosure..time to see if it dies in 20 days..

HDTune also says it has 888 bad sectors for whatever reason (since this appeared out of nowhere), still performs a bench test like any regular drive would; running a full error scan through that to see what happens

21st May 2012, 4:55 PM	#2
Flamin Joe Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 2,388	I've been using it for a while. It's not a bad program. The thing I find laughable though is that I have a drive that I was testing which has 1632 bad sectors, 23 weak sectors with an overall health of 9%, and the generic text reads: "At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further." Shall I wait till it's totally rooted before sending back for warranty?!? Sounds like their working for the HDD manufacturers. Once it's started developing bad sectors it's off to RMA as far as I'm concerned. __________________ PC Big Box Game Collecting My Collection Origin - LucasFilm/LucasArts - MicroProse - Sierra/Dynamix - Legend - Interplay

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21st May 2012, 4:46 PM	#1
Jaco Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: 4077 Posts: 44	"Hard Disk Sentinel" Discussion Thread Simple discussion thread for the program "Hard Disk Sentinel" Heres a link on it: http://www.hdsentinel.com/ If you haven't heard about it, it's another program which has been out for quite some time - it gives you information about all of your Harddrives within your machine, what their Performance and Health is, how long they have been running for overall and how much life is left in them. It is pretty handy, I have used it for quite some time now myself and quite a few popular raid cards are supported too so you are able to read your information for individual disks off of them, etc. Here's a few screenshots as an example of some crappy drives I got really cheap to check it out - so far it has been pretty accurate seeing as a poor condition 1TB drive a friend had died within the 10 days of life remaining as reported by the program. Show us some screenshots of your heavily used drives and lets see whats up

21st May 2012, 7:35 PM	#4
JonnoHR31 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 99	All green here.

21st May 2012, 11:50 PM	#5
nowlan Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 87	Wow, you guys got more errors, but longer life expectancy. --- -- Physical Disk Information - Disk: #1: WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 -- Hard Disk Summary ------------------- Hard Disk Number . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1 Interface . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : S-ATA II Disk Controller . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller (ATA) Disk Location . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Channel 0, Target 0, Lun 0, Device: 0 Hard Disk Model ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 Firmware Revision . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 51.0AB51 Hard Disk Serial Number . . . . . . . . . . . . : WD-WCAZA3600660 Total Size . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1907726 MB Power State . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Active Logical Drive(s) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : D: [New Volume] Current Temperature . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 29 °C Power On Time . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 141 days, 6 hours Estimated Remaining Lifetime . . . . . . . . . . : 54 days Health . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : ###----------------- 18 % (Bad) Performance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : #################### 100 % (Excellent) The drive found 69 bad sectors during its self test. There are 69 weak sectors found on the disk surface. They may be remapped any time in the later use of the disk. At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further. It is recommended to examine the log of the disk regularly. All new problems found will be logged there. It is recommended to backup immediately to prevent data loss. --- My seagate 120mb has been on 480 days, and less errors. --- when can i claim rma? wdc.com Our web services are currently unavailable for system maintenance. During this time the following services will be unavailable:

22nd May 2012, 7:59 AM	#8
rowan194 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,872	They really need to change the wording of the warning about warranty, or remove it completely. It sounds very authoritative when it may be completely wrong. I've RMA'd drives with "only" a few bad sectors before, they were accepted.

22nd May 2012, 10:38 AM	#9
LostBenji (Taking a Break) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Not around here anymore.. Posts: 5,298	Ok, I decided I would give the program a run. Downloaded the trial version and installed on my workstation. Picked up both my SSD's fine. It also seen my pair of 500GB's in Dynamic RAID-1 and reported them as fine but with issues. I have guessed this to be due to the drives currently Resyncing (bloody Win7 resume from sleep loves jamming since using dynamic RAID and requireing hard reset). Now I also placed it onto my server to see what it found, well.......... It seen my OS drive and flagged it at 9% health but still "Fine" ??????? It seen my 4-drive RAID-10 array on an Adaptec as a single drive with no more info obviously. It then seen all 8 drives on my 16-port 3ware RAID (2x 4-drive RAID-5 arrays) and proceeded to give the shits to my RAID card that then dumped 6 out of 8.... Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Now rebuilding the arrays again. The strange part is that it can see the drives indipendantly through the 3ware, has me surprised.

11th June 2012, 2:01 AM	#15
Jaco Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: 4077 Posts: 44	Well here's a screenshot for you guys Turned my system on tonight and got flashing drive warnings from the app - Seems that what was a 98% healthy drive yesterday with over 1000 days left of its life, has now strangely turned into this and yet to my shock! ! I can't claim warranty, hahaha. I probably couldn't regardless because it's a drive pulled from an external retail enclosure..time to see if it dies in 20 days.. HDTune also says it has 888 bad sectors for whatever reason (since this appeared out of nowhere), still performs a bench test like any regular drive would; running a full error scan through that to see what happens