Web Domain Name

[methodMAN]

hey all,

Not to sure if this is the right place, but here we go.

Looking to start up a small business, and was checking out domain names for the website.

Now the one that I am keen for is taken, but there is nothing there - comes up as crazydomains.com default page, how do I go about contacting the owner and offering to purchase it from them?

mM

[Dogo]

You need to do a Whois search.

try here
http://whois.domaintools.com/

[TheAvatar]

If its a .au you can use ausregistry to do the lookup.

http://www.ausregistry.com.au/whois

Just hope that it isn't with a domain squatter, chances are if they will part with it, the price wont be right

[methodMAN]

Originally Posted by TheAvatar

If its a .au you can use ausregistry to do the lookup.

http://www.ausregistry.com.au/whois

Just hope that it isn't with a domain squatter, chances are if they will part with it, the price wont be right

Got a email address from the search results, contacted owner/sitter, see what happens.

Only in the spit balling ideas stage at present.

mM

[Cask]

Originally Posted by TheAvatar

If its a .au you can use ausregistry to do the lookup.

http://www.ausregistry.com.au/whois

Just hope that it isn't with a domain squatter, chances are if they will part with it, the price wont be right

Originally Posted by methodMAN

Got a email address from the search results, contacted owner/sitter, see what happens.

Only in the spit balling ideas stage at present.

mM

yeah, sometimes if they think you're desperate for the domain then you're pretty much screwed

Just this morning I had asked about a .com that was registered after my .org was - same domain but just redirecting to a motorbike website (which clearly had nothing to do with my domain subject)

The guy asked for $150000
I laughed, offered $200
his response? $149999

squatters aren't worth messing with...bastards

[ipex]

Originally Posted by Cask

yeah, sometimes if they think you're desperate for the domain then you're pretty much screwed

Just this morning I had asked about a .com that was registered after my .org was - same domain but just redirecting to a motorbike website (which clearly had nothing to do with my domain subject)

The guy asked for $150000
I laughed, offered $200
his response? $149999

squatters aren't worth messing with...bastards

not all squatters are that bad , we want to get rid of the domain so we can buy more , sure i but a high price on my domains but there is room to negotiate , that guy was a tosser with bad business management

[methodMAN]

Well I got a email response from the guy, wanted to know if I was genuine or not, and if/why a good reason to want it.

See what happens, I added some crap on the end about starting up as a sole trader and getting business name, abn, business cards etc etc so that I am ready to go in 2013.

mM

[PabloEscobar]

Originally Posted by ipex

not all squatters are that bad , we want to get rid of the domain so we can buy more , sure i but a high price on my domains but there is room to negotiate , that guy was a tosser with bad business management

I've seen your for sale threads, and rather crapping that up, I thought I'd ask here.

Whats your normal markup for a sold domain?
what percentage of your domain names don't sell?

and what is the most you have sold a domain name for?


To me, Domain squatting seems like a dick move. I understand the rationale behind it, but something about it just rubs me the wrong way.

I'm glad the internet community as whole is moving away from the expectation that companyX.com is ALWAYS going to be companyX's website.

[power]

Originally Posted by PabloEscobar

To me, Domain squatting seems like a dick move. I understand the rationale behind it, but something about it just rubs me the wrong way.

I'm glad the internet community as whole is moving away from the expectation that companyX.com is ALWAYS going to be companyX's website.

domain squatters are leeches and they simply squat to profit, it's only legit because someone out there will do it just like all leech activities.

[PabloEscobar]

Originally Posted by power

domain squatters are leeches and they simply squat to profit, it's only legit because someone out there will do it just like all leech activities.

They buy to resell.
Just like 90% of business, and of stock market traders.

By your definition my Corner shop is a Leech, they buy Milk cheap, and sell it to me for more expensive.

[FarZK]

Originally Posted by PabloEscobar

They buy to resell.
Just like 90% of business, and of stock market traders.

By your definition my Corner shop is a Leech, they buy Milk cheap, and sell it to me for more expensive.

The corner shop doesn't buy up all the milk at the supermarkets for the sole purpose of conning you into buying it at 2000% or more markup

[ipex]

Originally Posted by PabloEscobar

I've seen your for sale threads, and rather crapping that up, I thought I'd ask here.

Whats your normal markup for a sold domain?
what percentage of your domain names don't sell?

and what is the most you have sold a domain name for?


To me, Domain squatting seems like a dick move. I understand the rationale behind it, but something about it just rubs me the wrong way.

I'm glad the internet community as whole is moving away from the expectation that companyX.com is ALWAYS going to be companyX's website.

it depends on the domain name if it is a keyword rich and easy to remember name it can for as little as a few hundred upto a few thousand and how many letters/words it is

in the early days of my domain sales adventures a majority of my domains didn't sell , but as i progressed along i learnt what worked and what didn't , but still it is a hit and miss adventure , what you think are premium names don't sell where as what you think is a dud name sells , they might not sell but i will keep them in my archive , it's only $10 a year so not a ig investment

i only deal in .com, the other tld's i don't touch as they are much harder to move

most i have sold a domain name was for $15K , but that also came with an established site that was rather solid with a good income , but the most for a domain by itself was around 3-4K

it may be a dick move , but it's all business , no different then anything else out there

Originally Posted by power

domain squatters are leeches and they simply squat to profit, it's only legit because someone out there will do it just like all leech activities.

far from leeches , we pay for the domain names , sometimes off the registar for $10 , other times from domain sale sites , sure we only buy the domain name to make a profit , why the hell else do you do anything , everyone buys and sells to make a proft , be it a supermarket , a computer shop , the guy down trash and tresure or a domain seller
eg: if you have ever been to an clearance auction , there are guys that will buy up anything and everything just to resell it for a profit , friend of mine goes to these auctions all the time , one deal he got was a jar full of pennies/half pennies etc , he brought the jar for $40 , just one coin alone he sold for $50 , is he a leech?

Originally Posted by FarZK

The corner shop doesn't buy up all the milk at the supermarkets for the sole purpose of conning you into buying it at 2000% or more markup

there is no conning involved , it is simply supply and demand

[methodMAN]

Well looks like we have reached a sticking point.

I am in a completely different state, and he wants to still hold onto the domain with no intention of using it. Protecting his interest - maybe other different circumstances. My business would go no further than local metro area (tradesman website).

Ohh well, onto the options.

mM

[PabloEscobar]

Originally Posted by ipex

ne deal he got was a jar full of pennies/half pennies etc , he brought the jar for $40

I had to go back and re-read that bit... , ty for the Response.

Originally Posted by methodMAN

Well looks like we have reached a sticking point.

I am in a completely different state, and he wants to still hold onto the domain with no intention of using it. Protecting his interest - maybe other different circumstances. My business would go no further than local metro area (tradesman website).

Ohh well, onto the options.

mM

How tied is your business to the domain name? SEO is taking the domain name into account less and less now. As long as you hit first page for "your trade" "your city/suburb" then you should be golden

[ipex]

domain names have never been about seo, it's been about top of the mind awareness , eg: saying to someone google it and instantly someone knows to type google.com