Choice of Programming Language - Page 3

Luke212 · 6th July 2012, 3:43 PM

yeah, i just know Mono is going to be like when my uncle touched me, so i dont even bother.

akashra · 6th July 2012, 3:56 PM

Didn't think there was anything wrong with it at the time, but now that it's been explained to you it's evident how horribly, horribly wrong that was?

antipody · 10th July 2012, 8:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke212

yeah, i just know Mono is going to be like when my uncle touched me, so i dont even bother.

LOL (not sure if that's funny or disturbing, but I got a good laugh).

I'm not much of a programmer, but I like tinkering with PHP/js for web stuff.

Considering learning Python for Scipy and Numpy, as I don't intend to continue to pay for Matlab licensing and it seems like a useful language to know.

seowebdesignmel · 10th July 2012, 10:22 PM

most web design programming languages

but with software development, would have to say VB.NET and SQL for very simple tasks haha

would like to try with C++ or C# or even JAVA for android applications.

MrSmoke · 11th July 2012, 1:05 AM

<3 PHP. Second would be Python (I havnt done much in it but I found it pretty nice to use)

Gecko · 11th July 2012, 7:57 AM

I'm surprised that Obj-C is sitting at zero at the moment. I would have thought that there would have been a few iOS devs around here.

I'm starting to learn it now, don't know enough to make an informed judgement about it yet though.

Foliage · 15th July 2012, 3:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gecko

I'm starting to learn it now, don't know enough to make an informed judgement about it yet though.

You only use it because you have no choice was my impression.

phreeky82 · 16th July 2012, 9:26 AM

Seeing as the poll is about familiarisation, I chose PHP. I've not used another language in a professional capacity even remotely as much, and due to being so familiar with PHP I've even used it for some scripts here and there where shell scripts would be more common (just for personal use normally).

C I mostly use for microcontroller stuff, and that has been quite a bit lately. Very contrasting to PHP.

It has been some time since I did any UI stuff. Last time was in .NET, as previous to that I did a LOT in VB and .NET was a bit of a natural progression. Last time I used Java it was many years ago and I can hardly recall the UI libraries used but things have probably changed by now - any recommendations/pointers? I really ought to do some if only to not get left too far behind while I work in a shitty job doing almost no coding.

edit: I now feel inspired

Am currently looking at learning Qt for some GUI dev.

DarkYendor · 16th July 2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gcflora

The difference between "procedural" languages and object-oriented is not that great a leap is it?

It's pretty big. But once you understand OO, you'll wonder how it was ever a hard concept.

That's part of why I like C#/C++/Objective-C. You can write procedurally when it makes sense, then use objects when it makes sense.

Luke212 · 16th July 2012, 10:46 AM

using objects does not mean you are using OO. plenty of people do a Manager-DataStructure design and dont even realise its not OO (no encapsulation)

oclockforlyfe · 16th July 2012, 10:56 AM

C for me.

I know that the higher level languages are memory managed, so there is no need to worry about buffer overlows and out-of-bounds problems, but to me that means the language has to generate extra psuedo code to achieve this.

I'd rather just have the code that I write, and managing memory myself is way more fun and I actually know WTF is going on.

HunterBunter · 16th July 2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dmandn

....Also has anyone else had the privelege to try lisp? Or more specifically lush http://lush.sourceforge.net/ ?

wow I haven't used that since AI in Uni...I remember thinking it was an awesome language but relied on brackets a little too much. I didn't really think it very practical in actual application writing, although perhaps that's just the way it was taught.

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Originally Posted by DarkYendor

It's pretty big. But once you understand OO, you'll wonder how it was ever a hard concept.

Yeah I have to agree with this; I did mostly C at uni and only briefly looked at C++. I had trouble really understanding what the big difference was until I spent a lot of time going through online tutes/examples. My understanding swelled when I saw OO programming a way of making C-structs more intense, attaching specific powers to those instead of willy-nilly across various files. Once I had that mental connection in place, the rest grew around it.

Now I'm most familiar with C++ (which is pretty much C with more awesome imo, hence two pluses instead of only one lol). I'm using it for my game dev now...it just feels fast and powerful.

limecore · 16th July 2012, 2:10 PM

Surprised Java isn't higher. Anyway, I voted Java because when I screw something up, or get stuck, I know quite a few people who are better than me and willing to help. Its also my first language.

I also gave python a short go, and don't mind it, I just don't really use it.

vindicator · 17th July 2012, 2:35 PM

Java is great for parsing XML and outputting it to stack traces.

Zoltag · 17th July 2012, 4:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vindicator

Java is great for parsing XML and outputting it to stack traces.

I would have to say the best XML parser I have used is in Perl. Cant beat loading an XML file into a hash with a single line of code

View Poll Results: Your Programming Language of Choice
ASm	2	0.93%
Ada	0	0%
BASIC	1	0.46%
BCPL	0	0%
C	19	8.80%
C#	52	24.07%
C++	25	11.57%
C++ (subset of)	2	0.93%
COBOL	2	0.93%
Erlang	0	0%
Forth	0	0%
Fortran	4	1.85%
Java	17	7.87%
JavaScript	9	4.17%
Lisp	0	0%
Logo	0	0%
Modula-2	0	0%
Objective C	1	0.46%
PHP	38	17.59%
Pascal	1	0.46%
Perl	12	5.56%
Python	20	9.26%
Ruby	6	2.78%
SQL	3	1.39%
Shell (Bash, ksh, csh, etc)	0	0%
TCL	0	0%
Other.... (please comment)	2	0.93%
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6th July 2012, 3:43 PM	#31
Luke212 Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NSW Posts: 6,425	yeah, i just know Mono is going to be like when my uncle touched me, so i dont even bother. __________________ Democracy's greatest trick was convincing man he was informed.

6th July 2012, 3:56 PM	#32
akashra Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 3,324	Didn't think there was anything wrong with it at the time, but now that it's been explained to you it's evident how horribly, horribly wrong that was? __________________ Punctuation is the difference between "Let's eat, grandma!" and "Let's eat grandma!". Building a Metricon Delta 21 in Craigieburn: http://homeofzero.blogspot.com/

10th July 2012, 10:22 PM	#34
seowebdesignmel New Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Melbourne Posts: 23	most web design programming languages but with software development, would have to say VB.NET and SQL for very simple tasks haha would like to try with C++ or C# or even JAVA for android applications. __________________ signatures are not billboards

11th July 2012, 1:05 AM	#35
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11th July 2012, 7:57 AM	#36
Gecko Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 2,722	I'm surprised that Obj-C is sitting at zero at the moment. I would have thought that there would have been a few iOS devs around here. I'm starting to learn it now, don't know enough to make an informed judgement about it yet though.

16th July 2012, 9:26 AM	#38
phreeky82 Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Townsville Posts: 9,102	Seeing as the poll is about familiarisation, I chose PHP. I've not used another language in a professional capacity even remotely as much, and due to being so familiar with PHP I've even used it for some scripts here and there where shell scripts would be more common (just for personal use normally). C I mostly use for microcontroller stuff, and that has been quite a bit lately. Very contrasting to PHP. It has been some time since I did any UI stuff. Last time was in .NET, as previous to that I did a LOT in VB and .NET was a bit of a natural progression. Last time I used Java it was many years ago and I can hardly recall the UI libraries used but things have probably changed by now - any recommendations/pointers? I really ought to do some if only to not get left too far behind while I work in a shitty job doing almost no coding. edit: I now feel inspired Am currently looking at learning Qt for some GUI dev. __________________ Successful trades: eyusuf, andy8, stuartl, michaeliam, theDarkHorse, bob Last edited by phreeky82; 16th July 2012 at 9:40 AM.

16th July 2012, 10:46 AM	#40
Luke212 Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NSW Posts: 6,425	using objects does not mean you are using OO. plenty of people do a Manager-DataStructure design and dont even realise its not OO (no encapsulation) __________________ Democracy's greatest trick was convincing man he was informed.

16th July 2012, 10:56 AM	#41
oclockforlyfe Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: perth Posts: 330	C for me. I know that the higher level languages are memory managed, so there is no need to worry about buffer overlows and out-of-bounds problems, but to me that means the language has to generate extra psuedo code to achieve this. I'd rather just have the code that I write, and managing memory myself is way more fun and I actually know WTF is going on. __________________ Successful trades with: jamesvdm, AMLagonda, yotka, Mr Picolenie Last edited by oclockforlyfe; 16th July 2012 at 10:59 AM.

16th July 2012, 2:10 PM	#43
limecore New Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 27	Surprised Java isn't higher. Anyway, I voted Java because when I screw something up, or get stuck, I know quite a few people who are better than me and willing to help. Its also my first language. I also gave python a short go, and don't mind it, I just don't really use it. __________________ Check out my site. I make Java programs. It's still under construction, and if anyone wants to help me, send me a pm

17th July 2012, 2:35 PM	#44
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