Somewhat offical Opteron benchies

WOOFLE · 17th October 2002, 1:16 PM

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,636049,00.asp
Now these sound like they'd just love to make their way into a folding farm

elvis · 17th October 2002, 2:16 PM

it's going to be an intersting Q2 next year. the opteron vs itanium 2 battle should be on by then.

i wonder if opteron will ever shrink back in price to be on par with high-end consumer products?

Leopard · 17th October 2002, 2:44 PM

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Originally posted by elvis
it's going to be an intersting Q2 next year. the opteron vs itanium 2 battle should be on by then.

i wonder if opteron will ever shrink back in price to be on par with high-end consumer products?

IMO I think Opteron's will be competing with Xeon's in the 2-4 way workstation and low-end server until 2004 at least. Itanium hasn't penetrated that far into the market yet to have a large % to compete against

, and it will take a fair bit of time to get 8+ way AMD boxen.

I guess that we will see 1-2 CPU clawhammers at the high-end consumer market as the starting point.

I would also hazard a guess that we may see some SMP boxes with one claw and one sledge hammer, rather than 2 clawhammers. Not sure of the reasoning behind this, but I am sure I sawe a presentation with this setup a while back.

All conjeture of course!

seamus5 · 17th October 2002, 9:48 PM

what i want to know is, now that the clawhammer has been pushed back to H2 2003, what is going to happen to all those mobo's that were in production to be ready for christmas this year.
must be a real bummer for Nvidia, and Via having to churn out those samples when the cpu isn't going to be ready for so long.

Lombers · 18th October 2002, 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by elvis
it's going to be an intersting Q2 next year. the opteron vs itanium 2 battle should be on by then.

Itanium 2 is almost in a different league to the Opteron. Itanium 2 is solely 64-bit computing via IA-64, Opteron will offer both 32 bit and 64 bit computing, so will compete in not only the high end server market, but also mid and low end. Be interesting to see how quick AMD release 2 to 4 way Opteron boards.

CodeRed · 18th October 2002, 8:39 AM

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Originally posted by Lombers

Itanium 2 is almost in a different league to the Opteron. Itanium 2 is solely 64-bit computing via IA-64, Opteron will offer both 32 bit and 64 bit computing, so will compete in not only the high end server market, but also mid and low end. Be interesting to see how quick AMD release 2 to 4 way Opteron boards.

that alone should push up the volumes and down with the price compared to the CrappaTanium2.

nwatts · 18th October 2002, 1:31 PM

is the opetron more or less like the Athlon MP or Xeon processor, or is it more for desktop uses like us??

seamus5 · 18th October 2002, 2:25 PM

The athlon MP is not a good comparison as it is essentially an althlon XP

The opteron (sledgehammer) is aimed at the business server, and high end workstation market slotting competing against both the Xeon and the IA-64.
Using a opteron for desktop purposes I imagine would be difficult as it would be hard to get a motherboard with all those features you've grown to love on you current consumer motherboad (i.e. overclocking, agp 8x etc, price etc.)

The clawhammer (yet to be offically named, possibly athlon 64), is the desktop equivalent which will replace the current althon xp sometime in the second half of next year.

nwatts · 18th October 2002, 4:23 PM

would the new athlon give a lot more performance gain, or not particualy??? ie. is it worth waiting (now) for it? instead of grabbing a 1800+??

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WOOFLE Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: melbourne Posts: 690	Somewhat offical Opteron benchies http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,636049,00.asp Now these sound like they'd just love to make their way into a folding farm __________________ You can't have a reasonable discussion with an unreasonable person

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elvis Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brisbane Posts: 20,295	it's going to be an intersting Q2 next year. the opteron vs itanium 2 battle should be on by then. i wonder if opteron will ever shrink back in price to be on par with high-end consumer products? __________________ Child's Play Charity

17th October 2002, 9:48 PM	#4
seamus5 Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 360	what i want to know is, now that the clawhammer has been pushed back to H2 2003, what is going to happen to all those mobo's that were in production to be ready for christmas this year. must be a real bummer for Nvidia, and Via having to churn out those samples when the cpu isn't going to be ready for so long.

18th October 2002, 1:31 PM	#7
nwatts Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NSW Posts: 4,492	is the opetron more or less like the Athlon MP or Xeon processor, or is it more for desktop uses like us??

18th October 2002, 2:25 PM	#8
seamus5 Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Melbourne Posts: 360	The athlon MP is not a good comparison as it is essentially an althlon XP The opteron (sledgehammer) is aimed at the business server, and high end workstation market slotting competing against both the Xeon and the IA-64. Using a opteron for desktop purposes I imagine would be difficult as it would be hard to get a motherboard with all those features you've grown to love on you current consumer motherboad (i.e. overclocking, agp 8x etc, price etc.) The clawhammer (yet to be offically named, possibly athlon 64), is the desktop equivalent which will replace the current althon xp sometime in the second half of next year.

18th October 2002, 4:23 PM	#9
nwatts Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NSW Posts: 4,492	would the new athlon give a lot more performance gain, or not particualy??? ie. is it worth waiting (now) for it? instead of grabbing a 1800+??